Is VEI dead or dying?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:07 pm

Well said, wrunow.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:42 am

leonmallett wrote:
jedimarley wrote:Is this all BS so the TM's don't lapse?
Good point, and one I think you and I have considered in the past.

To maintain trademarks don't you have to actively use them? Would the partial site update count? The only viable vehicle I can see is some kind of VEI sampler one-shot incorporating pretty much everything, but I may well be wrong on all three counts.

they have to actually publish something, thus why VIP put out those ashcans. or tried to. why marvel put out Captain Marvel books for years, even when they wouldn't sell *SQUEE*.

wrunow · Post by **wrunow** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:55 am

Zaphod wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
jedimarley wrote:Is this all BS so the TM's don't lapse?
Good point, and one I think you and I have considered in the past.

To maintain trademarks don't you have to actively use them? Would the partial site update count? The only viable vehicle I can see is some kind of VEI sampler one-shot incorporating pretty much everything, but I may well be wrong on all three counts.
they have to actually publish something, thus why VIP put out those ashcans. or tried to. why marvel put out Captain Marvel books for years, even when they wouldn't sell *SQUEE*.

I don't think VEI brought in the Cuneo's to work with them and then hired Warren Simons, one of Marvel's top editors, away from them simply to "maintain" the TM's. I think there are a larger goals in mind here. It would have been easy enough for them to whip something up if "TM protection" was the ultimate goal.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:23 am

wrunow wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
jedimarley wrote:Is this all BS so the TM's don't lapse?
Good point, and one I think you and I have considered in the past.

To maintain trademarks don't you have to actively use them? Would the partial site update count? The only viable vehicle I can see is some kind of VEI sampler one-shot incorporating pretty much everything, but I may well be wrong on all three counts.
they have to actually publish something, thus why VIP put out those ashcans. or tried to. why marvel put out Captain Marvel books for years, even when they wouldn't sell *SQUEE*.

I don't think VEI brought in the Cuneo's to work with them and then hired Warren Simons, one of Marvel's top editors, away from them simply to "maintain" the TM's. I think there are a larger goals in mind here. It would have been easy enough for them to whip something up if "TM protection" was the ultimate goal.

Yep. All they would have had to do is release an 8 page mini-comic and insert it in Diamond orders to be handed out for free. Or, maybe a 12 pager you could get for a buck. Something. Nope, I smell a real plan cooking here and I'm glad. Next year is looking a bit brighter, comics-wise.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:25 am

I'm looking forward to SDCC even a bit more now.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:53 pm

wrunow wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
jedimarley wrote:Is this all BS so the TM's don't lapse?
Good point, and one I think you and I have considered in the past.

To maintain trademarks don't you have to actively use them? Would the partial site update count? The only viable vehicle I can see is some kind of VEI sampler one-shot incorporating pretty much everything, but I may well be wrong on all three counts.
they have to actually publish something, thus why VIP put out those ashcans. or tried to. why marvel put out Captain Marvel books for years, even when they wouldn't sell *SQUEE*.

I don't think VEI brought in the Cuneo's to work with them and then hired Warren Simons, one of Marvel's top editors, away from them simply to "maintain" the TM's. I think there are a larger goals in mind here. It would have been easy enough for them to whip something up if "TM protection" was the ultimate goal.

I've been sorta out of the loop to recent changes. That is cool news though.

BruceReville · Post by **BruceReville** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:00 pm

Blood of Heroes · Post by **Blood of Heroes** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:17 pm

Phantom.. · Post by **Phantom..** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:11 am

a post to remember wrunow

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:23 pm

VEI dead or dying? Out of resus and in 'Intensive Care' until they publish regular comics. At present the prognosis looks good (to continue that metaphor...), but no full clean bill od health yet.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:30 pm

IC is better then the headstone for them

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:56 am

leonmallett standing by to give anyone at VEI mouth-to-mouth.

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:16 am

iggy101us wrote:leonmallett standing by to give anyone at VEI mouth-to-mouth.

It's ok. He is a trained medical professional.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:51 am

Chiclo wrote:
iggy101us wrote:leonmallett standing by to give anyone at VEI mouth-to-mouth.
It's ok. He is a trained medical professional.

"I'd rather kiss a Wookie!"

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:01 pm

Chiclo wrote:
iggy101us wrote:leonmallett standing by to give anyone at VEI mouth-to-mouth.
It's ok. He is a trained medical professional.

Hey, the last person you want to rely on is a psychiatric nurse!

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:02 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
iggy101us wrote:leonmallett standing by to give anyone at VEI mouth-to-mouth.
It's ok. He is a trained medical professional.
"I'd rather kiss a Wookie!"

You only say that....

chisumwomack · Post by **chisumwomack** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:29 pm

Tetsuo_Great wrote:
BruceReville wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
iggy101us wrote:So there really is a Bloodshot movie in the works?
I don't think a changed front page is proof/evidence that a movie is moving ahead. That is not to say that it isn't happening, just that this page means nothing in that regard.

Imdb lists a movie titled "Bloodshot" for 2013, but that is no guarantee (does any willing board memeber have full imdb access to gather more info BTW?).
Harbinger movie had a director announced in 2008 and had a Paramount push but what has come of that? Nada - so until I see something more than an off-handed remark from Matthew Vaughn I wouldn't hold my breath.
He did: http://www.superherohype.com/features/a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... hew-vaughn

SHH: What about these other things? Was adapting Valiant's "Bloodshot" something you were really considering at one point.
Vaughn: I'm getting a new draft of it next week. Yeah, there are not many things. I'm so exhausted I'm going to take at least a couple months off now and then… it's very weird but if I have to make a movie, it's 'cause I see the whole thing in my head and I know it's going to be effortless in a sense of engaging my mind. That hasn't happened yet on what my next project is going to be.
It's still very unlikely it will be his next film tho.

Tetsuo_Great? Come back!

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:45 pm

Wow.. I forgot about this thread... damn shame Valiant died like they did. Guess we'll never see X-O come back now...

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:11 am

I think they might pull through and put out a book or two

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:17 am

Dr. Solar wrote:I think they might pull through and put out a book or two

Damn I hope you are right on this one

wrunow · Post by **wrunow** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:29 am

I think Dinesh and Jason deserve some credit based on where this thread was a couple of years ago. You know when things looked really bad, Shooter walking, DH taking the GK characters out from under them, and a few other just tough breaks, these two guys put their heads down with a common goal of doing this and got back to work, created a professional publishing team, got some top rate investors with experience in the industry, and then stole an up and coming star from the largest and most successful comic book company today to shape their universe.

Looks pretty good now

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MarrowMan · Post by **MarrowMan** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:32 am

this thread should be archived. (on May 2nd) which will prove Valiant is back for GOOD.

BruceReville · Post by **BruceReville** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:02 am

Dead - nothing is happening here

Blood of Heroes · Post by **Blood of Heroes** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:05 am

wrunow wrote:I think Dinesh and Jason deserve some credit based on where this thread was a couple of years ago. You know when things looked really bad, Shooter walking, DH taking the GK characters out from under them, and a few other just tough breaks, these two guys put their heads down with a common goal of doing this and got back to work, created a professional publishing team, got some top rate investors with experience in the industry, and then stole an up and coming star from the largest and most successful comic book company today to shape their universe.

Looks pretty good now .

There sure were a lot of Doubting Thomases around here.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:46 am

Blood of Heroes wrote:
wrunow wrote:I think Dinesh and Jason deserve some credit based on where this thread was a couple of years ago. You know when things looked really bad, Shooter walking, DH taking the GK characters out from under them, and a few other just tough breaks, these two guys put their heads down with a common goal of doing this and got back to work, created a professional publishing team, got some top rate investors with experience in the industry, and then stole an up and coming star from the largest and most successful comic book company today to shape their universe.

Looks pretty good now .
There sure were a lot of Doubting Thomases around here.

Yes there were. The way things had been stacking against them things looked like a falling house of cards. I love the team behind the company, the passion for it oozes out in every word they say. Every action and move made is calculated and meant to have a lasting effect.

-Brian

ValiantFans.com Board - Since 2004

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