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Hello,

My apologies if this is not the right board to post this on. I'm interested in reading through VH2, but would prefer to skip anything that's not considered very good. I know opinions seem to be mixed - any recommendations on what the top titles are to read?

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Darke wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:02 am Hello,

My apologies if this is not the right board to post this on. I'm interested in reading through VH2, but would prefer to skip anything that's not considered very good. I know opinions seem to be mixed - any recommendations on what the top titles are to read?
Bloodshot, the Solar one-shots and mini, the Eternal Warriors and Turok quarterlies, Trinity Angels.

What else was there?
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Was the Darque one shot and limited series good? I like the artist.

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ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:54 am
Darke wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:02 am Hello,

My apologies if this is not the right board to post this on. I'm interested in reading through VH2, but would prefer to skip anything that's not considered very good. I know opinions seem to be mixed - any recommendations on what the top titles are to read?
Bloodshot, the Solar one-shots and mini, the Eternal Warriors and Turok quarterlies, Trinity Angels.

What else was there?
All those plus Quantum and Woody.

I think some of the Darque and Shadowman stuff is really good, give it a shot.

I haven't read most of these since they came out, there's some good stuff though, I'd try anything that looks cool to you with an open mind. You might find something good everyone else has forgotten about.

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ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:54 am the Solar one-shots and mini
Never read the Solar mini series. You recommend?

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Ryan wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:00 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:54 am the Solar one-shots and mini
Never read the Solar mini series. You recommend?
It was okay, for what it was.

Quantum & Woody, meh. I could live without it, heh. It is the antithesis of VALIANT.
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Darke wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:02 am Hello,

My apologies if this is not the right board to post this on. I'm interested in reading through VH2, but would prefer to skip anything that's not considered very good. I know opinions seem to be mixed - any recommendations on what the top titles are to read?
Welcome to the bored, btw.
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Darke wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:25 pm Was the Darque one shot and limited series good? I like the artist.
I thought so, yeah. It wasn't quite VALIANT's Master Darque, it was Master Darque by way of DC's Constantine, but the mini and one shot were good.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:01 pm
Ryan wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:00 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:54 am the Solar one-shots and mini
Never read the Solar mini series. You recommend?
It was okay, for what it was.

Quantum & Woody, meh. I could live without it, heh. It is the antithesis of VALIANT.
Right on, looks cool I forgot it was a big crossover.

I get what you're saying about Q&W. At the time I thought it was an entertaining series, haven't re-read it though. I agree it's not a VALIANT style book. VH2 is all over the board and for the most part not very VALIANT to me.

Even though I think there's some cool stuff in the VH2 Shadowman stuff, overall I also don't think it's very VALIANT. Deadside can be a fun fantasy concept to play with on it's own, but doesn't fit in Valiant.

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Ryan wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:09 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:01 pm
Ryan wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:00 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:54 am the Solar one-shots and mini
Never read the Solar mini series. You recommend?
It was okay, for what it was.

Quantum & Woody, meh. I could live without it, heh. It is the antithesis of VALIANT.
Right on, looks cool I forgot it was a big crossover.

I get what you're saying about Q&W. At the time I thought it was an entertaining series, haven't re-read it though. I agree it's not a VALIANT style book. VH2 is all over the board and for the most part not very VALIANT to me.

Even though I think there's some cool stuff in the VH2 Shadowman stuff, overall I also don't think it's very VALIANT. Deadside can be a fun fantasy concept to play with on it's own, but doesn't fit in Valiant.
Indeed. It could have, but likely not the way it was.

Remember, the first four issues by Ennis and Wood were developed to be published as part of VH 1, long before there was a VALIANT.

They really intended for Jack to have died when he jumped off the building in issue 43. They changed it to Tommy Lee Bones killing him with his own saxophone after VH 2 came about.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:23 pm Indeed. It could have, but likely not the way it was.

Remember, the first four issues by Ennis and Wood were developed to be published as part of VH 1, long before there was a VALIANT.

They really intended for Jack to have died when he jumped off the building in issue 43. They changed it to Tommy Lee Bones killing him with his own saxophone after VH 2 came about.
According to Bob Hall interviews on youtube, Acclaim wanted Bob to make Shadowman an African-American, instead of the mixed Creole that Jack was. I assume for the video game. So as a way to do what they wanted, he sent Jack off the building and said they can do whatever they wanted with him from there. He says he had a plan that could save him and a plan with what to do if he went splat. He's still floating though :lol:

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Ryan wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:30 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:23 pm Indeed. It could have, but likely not the way it was.

Remember, the first four issues by Ennis and Wood were developed to be published as part of VH 1, long before there was a VALIANT.

They really intended for Jack to have died when he jumped off the building in issue 43. They changed it to Tommy Lee Bones killing him with his own saxophone after VH 2 came about.
According to Bob Hall interviews on youtube, Acclaim wanted Bob to make Shadowman an African-American, instead of the mixed Creole that Jack was. I assume for the video game. So as a way to do what they wanted, he sent Jack off the building and said they can do whatever they wanted with him from there. He says he had a plan that could save him and a plan with what to do if he went splat. He's still floating though :lol:
Jack jumping off the building when he is not supposed to die until 1997 is the kind of thing Van Lente's Timewalker would tackle. Indeed, Ivar would be the one most likely to prevent that paradox.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:39 pm
Ryan wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:30 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:23 pm Indeed. It could have, but likely not the way it was.

Remember, the first four issues by Ennis and Wood were developed to be published as part of VH 1, long before there was a VALIANT.

They really intended for Jack to have died when he jumped off the building in issue 43. They changed it to Tommy Lee Bones killing him with his own saxophone after VH 2 came about.
According to Bob Hall interviews on youtube, Acclaim wanted Bob to make Shadowman an African-American, instead of the mixed Creole that Jack was. I assume for the video game. So as a way to do what they wanted, he sent Jack off the building and said they can do whatever they wanted with him from there. He says he had a plan that could save him and a plan with what to do if he went splat. He's still floating though :lol:
Jack jumping off the building when he is not supposed to die until 1997 is the kind of thing Van Lente's Timewalker would tackle. Indeed, Ivar would be the one most likely to prevent that paradox.
I think you're on to something. Bob was also the main writer for the original Timewalker series :hm:

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Ryan wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:05 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:39 pm
Ryan wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:30 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:23 pm Indeed. It could have, but likely not the way it was.

Remember, the first four issues by Ennis and Wood were developed to be published as part of VH 1, long before there was a VALIANT.

They really intended for Jack to have died when he jumped off the building in issue 43. They changed it to Tommy Lee Bones killing him with his own saxophone after VH 2 came about.
According to Bob Hall interviews on youtube, Acclaim wanted Bob to make Shadowman an African-American, instead of the mixed Creole that Jack was. I assume for the video game. So as a way to do what they wanted, he sent Jack off the building and said they can do whatever they wanted with him from there. He says he had a plan that could save him and a plan with what to do if he went splat. He's still floating though :lol:
Jack jumping off the building when he is not supposed to die until 1997 is the kind of thing Van Lente's Timewalker would tackle. Indeed, Ivar would be the one most likely to prevent that paradox.
I think you're on to something. Bob was also the main writer for the original Timewalker series :hm:
Indeed.
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