SOLAR, DARK HORSE, SHOOTER: WHAT IS HAPPENING?

[ErikG]

I'm new to this site, but not to Valiant, having been there virtually from the beginning of VH1, so I hope you'll forgive me if this query has already been addressed here already... I'm delighted with the new Valiant (VH3?). I was far less delighted with the Dark Horse Comics (DHC) revival of Solar, Magnus, and Turok (although Turok was pretty good). But I miss having Solar around in the new Valiant. I believe that Valiant Entertainment had been in negotiations for the licence, but that things went wrong, that Jim Shooter had been involved, that he was subsequently sued by Valiant for alleged nefarious dealings, and that... Well, that is where things get somewhat hazy. What happened? Now that DHC has cancelled the Solar/Magnus/Turok titles, has it lost the licence? Are these characters up for grabs again? Is VE still attempting to get them? And what is the story with the lawsuit? Trouble has always followed Jim Shooter around like a slavering red-eyed hound; there are usually accusations and counter-accusations, noise, recriminations and blame, but now all seems very quiet. I'd really like to know what is happening. Can anyone help? Again, I apologise if this has already been addressed here, but I just don't have the time to trawl thousands of posts -- I have Harbinger Wars to read... And in case you're wondering: I have always held Solar to be the unwitting creator of all the Valiant universes, ever since the Solar #0 inserts way back when... I'd love to have him back, even if it's only in a one-shot. Thanks for listening, folks.

[Elveen]

The gold key 3 will not be a part of Valiant.

[Dr. Solar]

Welcome to the bored!

Dark Horse still has the license to the Gold Key characters.

[myron]

The gold key 3 will not be a part of Valiant.

BLIZZAM!

[MoonChild]

The gold key 3 will not be a part of Valiant.

Ever?!

[wrunow]

The gold key 3 will not be a part of Valiant.

Ever?!

Well, you can "never say never", but not in the foreseeable future anyway. I think Valiant is doing just fine without them personally.

[Blood of Heroes]

The gold key 3 will not be a part of Valiant.

Ever?!

Well, you can "never say never", but not in the foreseeable future anyway. I think Valiant is doing just fine without them personally.

X2

[MoonChild]

Last I heard from them they're "Always Looking" (for an opportunity, I imaging).

[Brother Darque]

i would like to see Valiant re-print Solar, Magnus & Turok in hardcover.

[nonplayer]

Stupid dark horse. They are permanently banned from any of my comic boxes. And any chance I get to bad mouth them I do. So here goes. Stupid dark hores! :@

[caniac]

The gold key 3 will not be a part of Valiant.

Ever?!

Well, you can "never say never", but not in the foreseeable future anyway. I think Valiant is doing just fine without them personally.

X2

X3

Welcome to the boards BTW

[ErikG]

Thanks, guys. So DHC still has the licence. >Sigh< Well, never say never indeed. To wrunow: Yes, I agree. VE is certainly doing fine without Solar, Turok, and Magnus. I love this reboot! But, dammit, I miss the misguided presence out there of the (early) Solar. I have no idea what VE would do with Magnus or Turok if they got them. Magnus might be necessary for the reintroduction of the Rai we once knew, but as this is a reboot Rai can be tweaked into something new. On his own, Magnus doesn't seem to have anywhere to go. I didn't care for the Acclaim version. The DHC comic, true enough to the Gold Key version, seemed little more than a rehash and a boring one at that. Turok was good, but if (which might be possible, as someone mentioned elsewhere) Joshua Fireseed returns to Valiant, what does one do with him? For that matter, does VE own the Lost Land, or is that a Gold Key property?

And please -- anyone out there know what happened in the Shooter lawsuit? Or is that subject a no-no here?

[nscc]

Thanks, guys. So DHC still has the licence. >Sigh< Well, never say never indeed. To wrunow: Yes, I agree. VE is certainly doing fine without Solar, Turok, and Magnus. I love this reboot! But, dammit, I miss the misguided presence out there of the (early) Solar. I have no idea what VE would do with Magnus or Turok if they got them. Magnus might be necessary for the reintroduction of the Rai we once knew, but as this is a reboot Rai can be tweaked into something new. On his own, Magnus doesn't seem to have anywhere to go. I didn't care for the Acclaim version. The DHC comic, true enough to the Gold Key version, seemed little more than a rehash and a boring one at that. Turok was good, but if (which might be possible, as someone mentioned elsewhere) Joshua Fireseed returns to Valiant, what does one do with him? For that matter, does VE own the Lost Land, or is that a Gold Key property?

And please -- anyone out there know what happened in the Shooter lawsuit? Or is that subject a no-no here?

I don't have anything to really add here except to say welcome! And pretty much NO subject is a no-no here, threads are derailed more often than they are... railed

[lorddunlow]

I don't have anything to really add here except to say welcome! And pretty much NO subject is a no-no here, threads are derailed more often than they are... railed

I would say above anything, that is the Golden Rule of VF.com. I try my best to derail every thread into Canada-bashing...

By the way, welcome to the board. It's really fun here. Except there are too many Canadians like MarkRoseHFX


and... done!

[caniac]

I don't have anything to really add here except to say welcome! And pretty much NO subject is a no-no here, threads are derailed more often than they are... railed

I would say above anything, that is the Golden Rule of VF.com. I try my best to derail every thread into Canada-bashing...

By the way, welcome to the board. It's really fun here. Except there are too many Canadians like MarkRoseHFX


and... done!

You actually helped MarkRoseHFX as you were one of the reasons that I did the give away

You undercover Canada lover you

[lorddunlow]

I don't have anything to really add here except to say welcome! And pretty much NO subject is a no-no here, threads are derailed more often than they are... railed

I would say above anything, that is the Golden Rule of VF.com. I try my best to derail every thread into Canada-bashing...

By the way, welcome to the board. It's really fun here. Except there are too many Canadians like MarkRoseHFX


and... done!

You actually helped MarkRoseHFX as you were one of the reasons that I did the give away

You undercover Canada lover you

You're not supposed to let them know

[caniac]

I don't have anything to really add here except to say welcome! And pretty much NO subject is a no-no here, threads are derailed more often than they are... railed

I would say above anything, that is the Golden Rule of VF.com. I try my best to derail every thread into Canada-bashing...

By the way, welcome to the board. It's really fun here. Except there are too many Canadians like MarkRoseHFX


and... done!

You actually helped MarkRoseHFX as you were one of the reasons that I did the give away

You undercover Canada lover you

You're not supposed to let them know

That's what I get for not reading the manual

[tated250]

Welcome to the board and we don't derail threads now let's talk about fish tacos some more

[The Dirt Gang]

For that matter, does VE own the Lost Land, or is that a Gold Key property?

Welcome to the board!

I don't know who technically owns the Lost Land. If that's what it was called in the Gold Key comics, I would assume it's tied to Solar, Magnus and Turok. However, that would be an easy work around. VEI would just need to call it something different, no?

From the previews for Archer & Armstrong #0, it certainly looks like Gilgamesh could be a Lost Lands of sorts. Or could the Faraway be a Lost Lands type place?

[magnusr]

I don't know who technically owns the Lost Land. If that's what it was called in the Gold Key comics, I would assume it's tied to Solar, Magnus and Turok.

Good point. It was called Lost Valley in the Gold Key comics.

/Magnus

[siren3-4]

The gold key 3 will not be a part of Valiant.

Ever?!

Well, you can "never say never", but not in the foreseeable future anyway. I think Valiant is doing just fine without them personally.

Was wrunow banned from the site for quoting Justin Bieber . . .

[lorddunlow]

The gold key 3 will not be a part of Valiant.

Ever?!

Well, you can "never say never", but not in the foreseeable future anyway. I think Valiant is doing just fine without them personally.

Was wrunow banned from the site for quoting Justin Bieber . . .

[vikingspawn]

The Dark Horse solicits have a Magnus/Russ Manning reprint trade coming in November:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=46067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[kevinbastos]

The Dark Horse solicits have a Magnus/Russ Manning reprint trade coming in November:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=46067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's the info on the DH site.

http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/16-884/M ... lume-2-TPB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[caniac]

I'm too busy enjoying VEI!