May 2014 Sales Discussion
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
so when we get actual sales numbers this thread will just die out right? it's more fun without them
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
Kinda like VEIilzuccone wrote:so when we get actual sales numbers this thread will just die out right?




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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
Sounds like a plan.ilzuccone wrote:so when we get actual sales numbers this thread will just die out right? it's more fun without them

And woot, page 4 and no figures...

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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
Summarized:
With a linear regression, there is an upward trend of books. However, a linear regression is probably not the best model to use, as it has no upper limit (a linear trend predict that, given enough time, VEI would be selling more books than there are stars in the universe).
A logistic growth may be a more accurate model (for reasons I explained in the post). A logistic growth model, by design, flattens out at some point when an upper limit is reached (it is based on population growth). If we apply a logistic growth, the data suggests that the upper limit is around 85,000 books. Sales may be more on occasion, but they will generally hover around that mark.
A logistic growth model's predicted upper limit can change if the environment (the comic book marketplace) changes. Changes may includes, but are not limited to:
Lastly, this is a relatively small sample size. In some cases, if you expand the data out, it becomes possible to notice even more trends that were missed by looking at a smaller subsection. In short, I reserve the right to change my predictions.
Chris
With a linear regression, there is an upward trend of books. However, a linear regression is probably not the best model to use, as it has no upper limit (a linear trend predict that, given enough time, VEI would be selling more books than there are stars in the universe).
A logistic growth may be a more accurate model (for reasons I explained in the post). A logistic growth model, by design, flattens out at some point when an upper limit is reached (it is based on population growth). If we apply a logistic growth, the data suggests that the upper limit is around 85,000 books. Sales may be more on occasion, but they will generally hover around that mark.
A logistic growth model's predicted upper limit can change if the environment (the comic book marketplace) changes. Changes may includes, but are not limited to:
- Another company going out of business
A movie deal
Increased marketing/public awareness/long term "buzz" for a book
Critical recognition for a series
Economic factors
Lastly, this is a relatively small sample size. In some cases, if you expand the data out, it becomes possible to notice even more trends that were missed by looking at a smaller subsection. In short, I reserve the right to change my predictions.

Chris
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
I'm still not sure what exactly cjv is predicting...
....perhaps if there was some kind of "chart" we could look at... 


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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
I feel like a total failure as Charticus!BugsySig wrote:I'm still not sure what exactly cjv is predicting.......perhaps if there was some kind of "chart" we could look at...



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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
If only....BugsySig wrote:I'm still not sure what exactly cjv is predicting.......perhaps if there was some kind of "chart" we could look at...

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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
You have let yourself down, let the board down, let human-kind down....Phoenix8008 wrote:I feel like a total failure as Charticus!BugsySig wrote:I'm still not sure what exactly cjv is predicting.......perhaps if there was some kind of "chart" we could look at...
If only I was at home, I could whip up some kind of chart to satisfy the masses, but I'm stuck here at work and unable to provide for the wants and needs of the people.
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
(Don't worry, we'll protect you...Phoenix8008 wrote:I feel like a total failure as Charticus!BugsySig wrote:I'm still not sure what exactly cjv is predicting.......perhaps if there was some kind of "chart" we could look at...
If only I was at home, I could whip up some kind of chart to satisfy the masses, but I'm stuck here at work and unable to provide for the wants and needs of the people.
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
BugsySig wrote:(Don't worry, we'll protect you...Phoenix8008 wrote:I feel like a total failure as Charticus!BugsySig wrote:I'm still not sure what exactly cjv is predicting.......perhaps if there was some kind of "chart" we could look at...
If only I was at home, I could whip up some kind of chart to satisfy the masses, but I'm stuck here at work and unable to provide for the wants and needs of the people.
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
leonmallett wrote:BugsySig wrote:(Don't worry, we'll protect you...Phoenix8008 wrote:I feel like a total failure as Charticus!BugsySig wrote:I'm still not sure what exactly cjv is predicting.......perhaps if there was some kind of "chart" we could look at...
If only I was at home, I could whip up some kind of chart to satisfy the masses, but I'm stuck here at work and unable to provide for the wants and needs of the people.
![]()
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Prove it - make a chart stat!

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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
BugsySig wrote:leonmallett wrote:BugsySig wrote:(Don't worry, we'll protect you...Phoenix8008 wrote:I feel like a total failure as Charticus!BugsySig wrote:I'm still not sure what exactly cjv is predicting.......perhaps if there was some kind of "chart" we could look at...
If only I was at home, I could whip up some kind of chart to satisfy the masses, but I'm stuck here at work and unable to provide for the wants and needs of the people.
![]()
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Prove it - make a chart stat!

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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
cjv wrote:Summarized:
With a linear regression, there is an upward trend of books. However, a linear regression is probably not the best model to use, as it has no upper limit (a linear trend predict that, given enough time, VEI would be selling more books than there are stars in the universe).
A logistic growth may be a more accurate model (for reasons I explained in the post). A logisit growht model, be design, flattens out at some point when an upper limit is reached (it is based on population growth). If we apply a logistic growth, the data suggests that the upper limit is around 85,000 books. Sales may be more on occasion, but they will generally hover around that mark.
A logistic growth model's predicted upper limit can change if the environment (the comic book marketplace) changes. Changes may includes, but are not limited to:In short, a "change" is anything that may alter someone's purchasing behavior. Even though we may not have the specific parameters and how they are currently influencing the data, we can use the trends to identify the overall pattern.
- Another company going out of business
A movie deal
Increased marketing/public awareness/long term "buzz" for a book
Critical recognition for a series
Economic factors
Lastly, this is a relatively small sample size. In some cases, if you expand the data out, it becomes possible to notice even more trends that were missed by looking at a smaller subsection. In short, I reserve the right to change my predictions.
Chris
wow spoiler alert! if your going to share what happens in the future you could at least black out your post.
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
BugsySig wrote:

VEI - I look forward to you one day publishing MORE than 9-10 books per month
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
BugsySig wrote:

We will soon be at page 5 with no data at this rate!
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
here's something to think about...
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
BugsySig wrote:

I assume you have plenty more of these?
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
Wow...this thread has just become...wow.
On the bright side 4 pages going on 5! We are sick sick people.
Except for Phoenix who supplied no charts and thus has been stripped of title and faces banishment! Lol

On the bright side 4 pages going on 5! We are sick sick people.
Except for Phoenix who supplied no charts and thus has been stripped of title and faces banishment! Lol
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
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On the bright side 4 pages going on 5! We are sick sick people.
Except for Phoenix who supplied no charts and thus has been stripped of title and faces banishment! Lol
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
if we start next month's sales discussion now we could probably hit 33 pages by the time they are actually released.
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Re: May 2014 Sales Discussion
Not sure if that would be a new record or not for a sales discussion thread...ilzuccone wrote:if we start next month's sales discussion now we could probably hit 33 pages by the time they are actually released.

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