Unity .... what does it MEAN?!!

Shadowman99 · Post by **Shadowman99** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:25 am

BugsySig wrote:
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BugsySig wrote:
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hunter_peterson wrote:
Zaphod wrote: now where do we know a "time traveler" type character who has been to the faraway but hasn't really shown up in the VEI universe just yet?

A hint, his name isn't Doctor.

though if it should end up being the case that he travels via blue police box, I am throwing all of my money at Dinesh
That would be pretty awesome if Timewalker set the whole Vine culture up to create Aric for some reason. I can imagine him liberating the Vine in a sad, be,used way, knowing what they will become, but that they need to exist for XO to fulfil some purpose.

That would actually be a good origin for basically all the Valiant things teased by the Faraway... Bloodshot, Rai and Psi-Lords... the Boon... the existence of psiots... XO. Maybe even the accident of Quantum and Woody, and the creation of the Shadowman? Hmm...
Wouldn't that sort of make Timewalker a sort of 'God' of the Valiant universe then? (I don't know *anything* about Timewalker so if he actually is a sort of 'God' character sorry - didn't know!)
No, he was never god-like. That was Solar's job. He's the one who created the VH1 Universe. Ivar, manipulating events through out time (and space?), could be a way to "unite" the universe.
So, Solar or Timewalker created the universe? Wasn't quite clear from your wording...
But I see what you're getting at with the idea of 'uniting' the universe in the near future
Sorry, that wasn't very clear was it? Solar (or rather Phil Seleski) was responsible for the creation of the VH1 universe. I think Timewalker as the great manipulator, not as a god-like character, would be a cool way to unite things across the new VALIANT universe. That was never Ivar's role in VH1, but would seem to fit what we have seen of his character thus far.

Also, did anyone else notice on the banner image for the trading card set that Ivar and Mary-Maria are featured as part of the group shot in that barren landscape?

I just read about Solar on Wikipedia hoping it would mention something about him creating the Valiant universe, and wow! That sounds like one confusing sequence of events! I guess it reads okay because lots of people here seem to remember Solar with fondness, but I bet the writers sure had a hard time keeping track of that one when they were publishing it!

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:21 pm

Captain Craig wrote:Trading card set? Missed that one, so I'm unclear on the banner of which you reference.

http://www.scifihobby.com/products/vali ... /index.cfm

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:10 pm

Shadowman99 wrote:I just read about Solar ...That sounds like one confusing sequence of events! I guess it reads okay because lots of people here seem to remember Solar with fondness, but I bet the writers sure had a hard time keeping track of that one when they were publishing it!

So did readers, but it was fun. It was much easier to understand if you went back and just read the backstory inserts by themselves in one or two sittings. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go bang on the proton accelerators with a wrench...

Thedinosaur · Post by **Thedinosaur** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:25 am

Could also be a way to introduce a new character.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:30 am

Thedinosaur wrote:Could also be a way to introduce a new character.

Maglarok: Robot Hunter of the Atom

lorddunlow · Post by **lorddunlow** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:25 am

BugsySig wrote:
Thedinosaur wrote:Could also be a way to introduce a new character.
Maglarok: Robot Hunter of the Atom

I like it!

Shadowman99 · Post by **Shadowman99** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:43 pm

lorddunlow wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Thedinosaur wrote:Could also be a way to introduce a new character.
Maglarok: Robot Hunter of the Atom
I like it!

I'm down wit' dat.

String · Post by **String** » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:01 am

Shadowman99 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:
hunter_peterson wrote: That would be pretty awesome if Timewalker set the whole Vine culture up to create Aric for some reason. I can imagine him liberating the Vine in a sad, be,used way, knowing what they will become, but that they need to exist for XO to fulfil some purpose.

That would actually be a good origin for basically all the Valiant things teased by the Faraway... Bloodshot, Rai and Psi-Lords... the Boon... the existence of psiots... XO. Maybe even the accident of Quantum and Woody, and the creation of the Shadowman? Hmm...
Wouldn't that sort of make Timewalker a sort of 'God' of the Valiant universe then? (I don't know *anything* about Timewalker so if he actually is a sort of 'God' character sorry - didn't know!)
No, he was never god-like. That was Solar's job. He's the one who created the VH1 Universe. Ivar, manipulating events through out time (and space?), could be a way to "unite" the universe.
So, Solar or Timewalker created the universe? Wasn't quite clear from your wording...
But I see what you're getting at with the idea of 'uniting' the universe in the near future
Sorry, that wasn't very clear was it? Solar (or rather Phil Seleski) was responsible for the creation of the VH1 universe. I think Timewalker as the great manipulator, not as a god-like character, would be a cool way to unite things across the new VALIANT universe. That was never Ivar's role in VH1, but would seem to fit what we have seen of his character thus far.

Also, did anyone else notice on the banner image for the trading card set that Ivar and Mary-Maria are featured as part of the group shot in that barren landscape?
I just read about Solar on Wikipedia hoping it would mention something about him creating the Valiant universe, and wow! That sounds like one confusing sequence of events! I guess it reads okay because lots of people here seem to remember Solar with fondness, but I bet the writers sure had a hard time keeping track of that one when they were publishing it!

Yeah, I was reading some of the same articles, trying to catch up on what Unity was and what occurred and Solar's backstory certainly sounds twisted but cool. (BTW, how did Seleski's fusion reactor turn into a 'wish machine'?)

Judging by what I've read so far, I can see what you all are saying by turning classic elements into new concepts (mainly the Lost Land into the Faraway) but it seems to me that Solar, someone of high power and influence, was central to the overall Unity story and concept. So, if Solar doesn't exist yet in the new VEI, who or what could possibly replace him?

Shadowman99 · Post by **Shadowman99** » Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:08 am

String wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Shadowman99 wrote: Wouldn't that sort of make Timewalker a sort of 'God' of the Valiant universe then? (I don't know *anything* about Timewalker so if he actually is a sort of 'God' character sorry - didn't know!)
No, he was never god-like. That was Solar's job. He's the one who created the VH1 Universe. Ivar, manipulating events through out time (and space?), could be a way to "unite" the universe.
So, Solar or Timewalker created the universe? Wasn't quite clear from your wording...
But I see what you're getting at with the idea of 'uniting' the universe in the near future
Sorry, that wasn't very clear was it? Solar (or rather Phil Seleski) was responsible for the creation of the VH1 universe. I think Timewalker as the great manipulator, not as a god-like character, would be a cool way to unite things across the new VALIANT universe. That was never Ivar's role in VH1, but would seem to fit what we have seen of his character thus far.

Also, did anyone else notice on the banner image for the trading card set that Ivar and Mary-Maria are featured as part of the group shot in that barren landscape?
I just read about Solar on Wikipedia hoping it would mention something about him creating the Valiant universe, and wow! That sounds like one confusing sequence of events! I guess it reads okay because lots of people here seem to remember Solar with fondness, but I bet the writers sure had a hard time keeping track of that one when they were publishing it!
Yeah, I was reading some of the same articles, trying to catch up on what Unity was and what occurred and Solar's backstory certainly sounds twisted but cool. (BTW, how did Seleski's fusion reactor turn into a 'wish machine'?)

Judging by what I've read so far, I can see what you all are saying by turning classic elements into new concepts (mainly the Lost Land into the Faraway) but it seems to me that Solar, someone of high power and influence, was central to the overall Unity story and concept. So, if Solar doesn't exist yet in the new VEI, who or what could possibly replace him?

Darned good question.

'fraid I don't know enough about Valiant characters or its history to be able to answer that. However, I'm inclined to think that Unity 2013 will be something completely new altogether: Not a sort of re-hashed re-telling of the previous Unity.

The thing is, whilst you're not wrong about the company updating some of its previous elements, like the Lost Land/Faraway, the important thing is that Valiant today IS Valiant today: The company isn't strictly linking any of its stories to past comics that they'd published back in the 90's, so I think that we might get something completely new with the upcoming Unity project. On the other hand, for as much as I know, this might be the company's way of introducing the Faraway across the Valiant universe in a really big way

Also, as far as I know, the Unity 2000 project went unfinished, so I'm not sure how much of that there is for comparison between 'Unity' and 'Unity 2000' - Anyone care to tell for those that don't know??

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:10 am

So, if Solar doesn't exist yet in the new VEI, who or what could possibly replace him?

Just a guess, but I'm going to say Shanhara...or maybe the Boon...or Ivar...*SQUEE*, I have no idea

Shadowman99 · Post by **Shadowman99** » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:07 am

BugsySig wrote:
So, if Solar doesn't exist yet in the new VEI, who or what could possibly replace him?
Just a guess, but I'm going to say Shanhara...or maybe the Boon...or Ivar...*SQUEE*, I have no idea

Who're they? I know Ivar is Timewalker, who are the other two? Guess they're from A+A as well?

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:41 am

Shadowman99 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
So, if Solar doesn't exist yet in the new VEI, who or what could possibly replace him?
Just a guess, but I'm going to say Shanhara...or maybe the Boon...or Ivar...*SQUEE*, I have no idea
Who're they? I know Ivar is Timewalker, who are the other two? Guess they're from A+A as well?

Shanhara is the XO Armor...The Boon is the device that the Immortal Brothers brought back from the Faraway that led to each of their immortality (though in different ways).

There's also the Geomancer, Kay McHenry, who could play a large role in this version of the VALIANT Universe.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:44 am

Shadowman99 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
So, if Solar doesn't exist yet in the new VEI, who or what could possibly replace him?
Just a guess, but I'm going to say Shanhara...or maybe the Boon...or Ivar...*SQUEE*, I have no idea
Who're they? I know Ivar is Timewalker, who are the other two? Guess they're from A+A as well?

Ivar is from A&A. The Boon is from A&A. Shanhara is the X-O Armor. That is it's name.

Erica Pierce aka MotherGod was the impetus for Unity. She had pretty much the same powers as Solar and spent the better part of 3,000 years learning how to manipulate them and building towards Unity.

She didn't create the Lost Land, her and Solar found it together, she spent those 3,000 years learning how to travel there and manipulate all of time and space through the Lost Land because it was a Nexus to all time and space. It was the only place where "time was absolute" meaning you could get there from all different timelines but the time was always static.

It's all just wibbly wobbely, timey wimey stuff.

A&A discover The Faraway in A&A #0 much the same way Magnus, Rai and 4K1 Gilad do in Unity. Solar or Erica never created The Lost Land, it was already there. So you don't really need a Solar.

KXXX · Post by **KXXX** » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:36 am

Unity will be a PS3/Xbox 360 game. It will be a third-person arcade beat 'em up with shooting and flight elements, as well as five different covers. The collector's edition will feature a pube.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:39 am

Well, we at least now know that Unity will be a title, not just the name of a crossover.

What else it entails, anyone's guess.

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:03 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:Well, we at least now know that Unity will be a title, not just the name of a crossover.

What else it entails, anyone's guess.

Cool ... did Dino confirm that to you on your recent interview with him on OTV?

I think it could be a smart move by them to make Unity into a series. Besides Rai, Unity is probably one of their more marketable titles they have yet to release. Making it into a monthly series seems like a shrewd business move ... and i'm sure its going to be an awesome concept as well.

I'm hoping its NOT a JLA or Avengers type title - Valiant heroes are NOT the typical heroes so I don't like the idea of turning them into heroic caricatures on some team title. I still like the idea of a team book focusing on characters that don't have their own title (Secret Weapons) ... but I don't want to see Peter Stanchek, Eternal Warrior and Shadowman teaming up as super friends.

My guess on Unity is that it will have lots of crossover with major characters getting together to fight a common foe in the Faraway but will also have a long game concept/Major arc to it that will develop slowly over time. I'm hoping that the Faraway along with 1 "good" character(geomancer?) and one "bad" character(mothergod?) will be its major focus with other titles crossing over with Unity from time to time eventually culminating into major crossover(s) every couple of years or so.

If we were to assume that the Faraway has portals to different times and planets ... Unity has many possibilities and storylines to explore.

Shadowman99 · Post by **Shadowman99** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:14 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:Well, we at least now know that Unity will be a title, not just the name of a crossover.

What else it entails, anyone's guess.

Wow, that was unexpected

Can't wait to see what happens with that...

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:23 am

Dr. Solar wrote:Well, we at least now know that Unity will be a title, not just the name of a crossover.

What else it entails, anyone's guess.

Interesting; an ongoing or a limited series? The nature of whether it is intentionally finite or open-ended may offer some clues as to its focus.

Limited series suggest spine of a crossover, (which is fine for this reader as I have enjoyed Harbinger Wars), whereas ongoing could be very interesting since it suggests some kind of ensemble. Now going into speculation territory I think we could exclude Bloodshot, the Renegades, and HARD Corps members from any such hypothetical ensemble.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:48 am

leonmallett wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:Well, we at least now know that Unity will be a title, not just the name of a crossover.

What else it entails, anyone's guess.
Interesting; an ongoing or a limited series? The nature of whether it is intentionally finite or open-ended may offer some clues as to its focus.

Limited series suggest spine of a crossover, (which is fine for this reader as I have enjoyed Harbinger Wars), whereas ongoing could be very interesting since it suggests some kind of ensemble. Now going into speculation territory I think we could exclude Bloodshot, the Renegades, and HARD Corps members from any such hypothetical ensemble.

My vote is for "Neville's Angels": Livewire, Mary Maria and Doctor Mirage. With Ninjak as Bosley. Throw in Stronghold and Alexander Dorian as XO Commando...That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:07 pm

BugsySig wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:Well, we at least now know that Unity will be a title, not just the name of a crossover.

What else it entails, anyone's guess.
Interesting; an ongoing or a limited series? The nature of whether it is intentionally finite or open-ended may offer some clues as to its focus.

Limited series suggest spine of a crossover, (which is fine for this reader as I have enjoyed Harbinger Wars), whereas ongoing could be very interesting since it suggests some kind of ensemble. Now going into speculation territory I think we could exclude Bloodshot, the Renegades, and HARD Corps members from any such hypothetical ensemble.
My vote is for "Neville's Angels": Livewire, Mary Maria and Doctor Mirage. With Ninjak as Bosley. Throw in Stronghold and Alexander Dorian as XO Commando...That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

hawkeyeps · Post by **hawkeyeps** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:28 pm

BugsySig wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:Well, we at least now know that Unity will be a title, not just the name of a crossover.

What else it entails, anyone's guess.
Interesting; an ongoing or a limited series? The nature of whether it is intentionally finite or open-ended may offer some clues as to its focus.

Limited series suggest spine of a crossover, (which is fine for this reader as I have enjoyed Harbinger Wars), whereas ongoing could be very interesting since it suggests some kind of ensemble. Now going into speculation territory I think we could exclude Bloodshot, the Renegades, and HARD Corps members from any such hypothetical ensemble.
My vote is for "Neville's Angels": Livewire, Mary Maria and Doctor Mirage. With Ninjak as Bosley. Throw in Stronghold and Alexander Dorian as XO Commando...That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

Add in Hearst the dodo bird from the Faraway then it's platinum!

They would have to work in a super smart and sassy talking roller skating baby to achieve diamond

Captain Craig · Post by **Captain Craig** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:06 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:Well, we at least now know that Unity will be a title, not just the name of a crossover.

What else it entails, anyone's guess.

We do? Link with details please.

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:27 pm

Captain Craig wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:Well, we at least now know that Unity will be a title, not just the name of a crossover.

What else it entails, anyone's guess.
We do? Link with details please.

Check the latest OTV podcast... Dinesh comes right out and says it.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:42 pm

Keith wrote:
Captain Craig wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:Well, we at least now know that Unity will be a title, not just the name of a crossover.

What else it entails, anyone's guess.
We do? Link with details please.
Check the latest OTV podcast... Dinesh comes right out and says it.

In today's interview with MTV Geek from SDCC, Dysart slips and says a Universe-wide event is coming soon (just before he's shushed up).

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:09 am

Warren Simons also says to watch what is happening in XO

The Faraway seems to be the perfect place to put Visigoths who are looking to claim land for their very own

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