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Aram wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
I'm sorry, but as long Brett Ratner is involved with Harbinger quality is going to be a question.
It could be Much worse. What if it was Michael Bay? :wink:
Lets be fair, Michael Bay is very good at what he does. You may not like what he does (I don't) but he makes lots of explosive, fun movies that sell tickets.

Just like selling monthly pamphlets (I am never going to let them live that one down, was it Dinesh himself who typed it?) is the name of the game, selling movie tickets is the name of the movie game. Regardless of what us fanboys (and girl) tend to want to believe.
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Chiclo wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:I'm sorry, but as long Brett Ratner is involved with Harbinger quality is going to be a question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYGxEzEm0VA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't get the Ratner hate.
Are you really going to question Abed when it comes to TV and film? well, are you?

Though Season 3 of Community did sorta suck...
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Zaphod wrote:Though Season 3 of Community did sorta suck...
You, sir, speak absurdities. Chang is the moon and drinks the stars.

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etos45 wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:Its not hate. He's just notoriously mediocre. He really doesn't have a stellar movie on his resume.
I really liked X-Men 3. :?

If he did a Harbinger like that, I'd probably like it too... in the theater alone. :lol:
I thought X3 was fine...he didn't write it, which was where the biggest issues were...but from a directorial standpoint it wasnt bad.
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Chiclo wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:I'm sorry, but as long Brett Ratner is involved with Harbinger quality is going to be a question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYGxEzEm0VA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't get the Ratner hate.
No doubt! I really enjoyed:

- Rush Hour
- The Family Man
- Rush Hour 2
- After the Sunset
- XMen Last Stand (mostly, but he didn't write it)

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Aram wrote:No movies are actually the bread and butter of the industry today. ...VEI is definitely banking on making good movies.
Mmm, they may be the bread and butter of publishers with 50 year long pedigrees, virtually unlimited pop culture name recognition for the characters and astronomical financial backing -- but that's not Valiant. Don't get me wrong, I hope they're able to release one blockbuster after another, I just doubt it's present feasibility.

But who knows. Hellboy was a great movie and had a comparatively miniscule readership compared to Batman. :?

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jmatt wrote:
Aram wrote:No movies are actually the bread and butter of the industry today. ...VEI is definitely banking on making good movies.
Mmm, they may be the bread and butter of publishers with 50 year long pedigrees, virtually unlimited pop culture name recognition for the characters and astronomical financial backing -- but that's not Valiant. Don't get me wrong, I hope they're able to release one blockbuster after another, I just doubt it's present feasibility.

But who knows. Hellboy was a great movie and had a comparatively miniscule readership compared to Batman. :?
That was Guillermo Del Toro. Ratner is no Del Toro.
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tchalla8 wrote:
jmatt wrote:
Aram wrote:No movies are actually the bread and butter of the industry today. ...VEI is definitely banking on making good movies.
Mmm, they may be the bread and butter of publishers with 50 year long pedigrees, virtually unlimited pop culture name recognition for the characters and astronomical financial backing -- but that's not Valiant. Don't get me wrong, I hope they're able to release one blockbuster after another, I just doubt it's present feasibility.

But who knows. Hellboy was a great movie and had a comparatively miniscule readership compared to Batman. :?
That was Guillermo Del Toro. Ratner is no Del Toro.
Well they keep saying Ratner is attached, but without a studio involved, that is meaningless. Once they sell the rights to a studio, then we can start talking, because you never know who they will want to bring in, who they like or don't like, and how much they want to spend on a director.
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BugsySig wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
jmatt wrote:
Aram wrote:No movies are actually the bread and butter of the industry today. ...VEI is definitely banking on making good movies.
Mmm, they may be the bread and butter of publishers with 50 year long pedigrees, virtually unlimited pop culture name recognition for the characters and astronomical financial backing -- but that's not Valiant. Don't get me wrong, I hope they're able to release one blockbuster after another, I just doubt it's present feasibility.

But who knows. Hellboy was a great movie and had a comparatively miniscule readership compared to Batman. :?
That was Guillermo Del Toro. Ratner is no Del Toro.
Well they keep saying Ratner is attached, but without a studio involved, that is meaningless. Once they sell the rights to a studio, then we can start talking, because you never know who they will want to bring in, who they like or don't like, and how much they want to spend on a director.
Wonder if Joss Whedon is busy...
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BugsySig wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
jmatt wrote:
Aram wrote:No movies are actually the bread and butter of the industry today. ...VEI is definitely banking on making good movies.
Mmm, they may be the bread and butter of publishers with 50 year long pedigrees, virtually unlimited pop culture name recognition for the characters and astronomical financial backing -- but that's not Valiant. Don't get me wrong, I hope they're able to release one blockbuster after another, I just doubt it's present feasibility.

But who knows. Hellboy was a great movie and had a comparatively miniscule readership compared to Batman. :?
That was Guillermo Del Toro. Ratner is no Del Toro.
Well they keep saying Ratner is attached, but without a studio involved, that is meaningless. Once they sell the rights to a studio, then we can start talking, because you never know who they will want to bring in, who they like or don't like, and how much they want to spend on a director.
I'm pretty sure Paramount is attached to the Harbinger film, unless something has changed.

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jmatt wrote:
Aram wrote:No movies are actually the bread and butter of the industry today. ...VEI is definitely banking on making good movies.
Mmm, they may be the bread and butter of publishers with 50 year long pedigrees, virtually unlimited pop culture name recognition for the characters and astronomical financial backing -- but that's not Valiant. Don't get me wrong, I hope they're able to release one blockbuster after another, I just doubt it's present feasibility.

But who knows. Hellboy was a great movie and had a comparatively miniscule readership compared to Batman. :?
There have been a lot of lesser named character based movies that did fairly well. Hellboy, Constantine, Sin City, Kick-*SQUEE*, The Crow... The MASK... Men In Black...

No-names in the comic industry can easily become household names today just by having a half-way decent movie made. Even if it doesn't have mass appeal to bring in the cash at the theaters it can be made on home video aka Scott Pilgrim.
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Aram wrote:
jmatt wrote:
Aram wrote:No movies are actually the bread and butter of the industry today. ...VEI is definitely banking on making good movies.
Mmm, they may be the bread and butter of publishers with 50 year long pedigrees, virtually unlimited pop culture name recognition for the characters and astronomical financial backing -- but that's not Valiant. Don't get me wrong, I hope they're able to release one blockbuster after another, I just doubt it's present feasibility.

But who knows. Hellboy was a great movie and had a comparatively miniscule readership compared to Batman. :?
There have been a lot of lesser named character based movies that did fairly well. Hellboy, Constantine, Sin City, Kick-*SQUEE*, The Crow... The MASK... Men In Black...

No-names in the comic industry can easily become household names today just by having a half-way decent movie made. Even if it doesn't have mass appeal to bring in the cash at the theaters it can be made on home video aka Scott Pilgrim.
The Walking Dead. Though that has more to do with the resurgence of Zombie stories than it was based upon a comic book.

Specialty cable stations seem a viable market for these IPs.
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Aram wrote:
jmatt wrote:
Aram wrote:No movies are actually the bread and butter of the industry today. ...VEI is definitely banking on making good movies.
Mmm, they may be the bread and butter of publishers with 50 year long pedigrees, virtually unlimited pop culture name recognition for the characters and astronomical financial backing -- but that's not Valiant. Don't get me wrong, I hope they're able to release one blockbuster after another, I just doubt it's present feasibility.

But who knows. Hellboy was a great movie and had a comparatively miniscule readership compared to Batman. :?
There have been a lot of lesser named character based movies that did fairly well. Hellboy, Constantine, Sin City, Kick-*SQUEE*, The Crow... The MASK... Men In Black...

No-names in the comic industry can easily become household names today just by having a half-way decent movie made. Even if it doesn't have mass appeal to bring in the cash at the theaters it can be made on home video aka Scott Pilgrim.
Good point. All great movies.


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