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[wrunow]

A year or two ago I would have been very excited but now I'm barely even interested, sorry but VEI wasted to much time in secerts to me interested.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that you arent the only one feeling that way here, but in the long run im pretty confident they will be putting out some great books with shweet creative teams.
Don't let what came before spoil what is about to happen.

If they get top notch creators that I like then I might start to be interested, but generally I hate people and companies that waste my time.

I would think hiring Warren Simons away from Marvel to be executive editor is a pretty good start as far as top notch creators, unless you don't like his work.

Other than that, when the books finally come out I would hope you would base your opinion on their merits vs. how long it took the company to produce, nobody else was in line at the bankruptcy auction to give you product any faster.

[IanAlexavier]

But, Q&W would not be part of 'real Valiant continuity'. Valiant characters could find themselves in stories within Q&W's universe but not the other way around... and I mean 'for real' not a 'how do you know WHICH reality is the 'real reality' either, Dr. Holland.

Correct.. and the only VH characters that could be used with Q&W would be heroes that are well known throughout the VH Universe. So, unless Shadowman was known throughout the world he could not be a part of the Q&W comic. Im not sure what characters could be used in a comic books set within the VH Universe. Spider Aleins??

And, IF a semblance of a character could be used, that character could not use any knowledge of its VH 'prime' character.

You and I understand this.. the question is: would the writers and editors be able to keep it separate??? Im not sure if they could!

[Michael Woods]

A year or two ago I would have been very excited but now I'm barely even interested, sorry but VEI wasted to much time in secerts to me interested.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that you arent the only one feeling that way here, but in the long run im pretty confident they will be putting out some great books with shweet creative teams.
Don't let what came before spoil what is about to happen.

If they get top notch creators that I like then I might start to be interested, but generally I hate people and companies that waste my time.

I would think hiring Warren Simons away from Marvel to be executive editor is a pretty good start as far as top notch creators, unless you don't like his work.

Other than that, when the books finally come out I would hope you would base your opinion on their merits vs. how long it took the company to produce, nobody else was in line at the bankruptcy auction to give you product any faster.

Warren Simons is a brilliant hire. That guy is going to kill at his new job.

[Michael Woods]

A year or two ago I would have been very excited but now I'm barely even interested, sorry but VEI wasted to much time in secerts to me interested.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that you arent the only one feeling that way here, but in the long run im pretty confident they will be putting out some great books with shweet creative teams.
Don't let what came before spoil what is about to happen.

If they get top notch creators that I like then I might start to be interested, but generally I hate people and companies that waste my time.

Look at the books in your collection. How many times have you honestly said "great book, but I wish it would have shipped on time"? I'm betting never.

How many people complaining about the Star Wars prequels muttered "they would have been better if they came out sooner"? Again, I'm guessing not at all.

I think it's great that you are enthusiastic about the books and don't want to wait, but these things take time and nobody is going to be robbed of their enjoyment of these books because of the years prior it took to get them off the ground.

Besides...of all the people who should feel like their time has been wasted here, I assure you it isn't us fans.

My advice...just sit back, relax and wait and see what the new Valiant looks like. You might even like it.

[etos45]

Look at the books in your collection. How many times have you honestly said "great book, but I wish it would have shipped on time"? I'm betting never.

There are a few series (Like the Black Cat series by Kevin Smith) that I have missed out on the end because they were delayed so much that I forgot about them. I think the bigger problem is that delayed books usually aren't that good to begin with. *cough* *cough* Deathmate Red...

How many people complaining about the Star Wars prequels muttered "they would have been better if they came out sooner"? Again, I'm guessing not at all.

I may be the only one, but I am a firm believer that the prequels would have been much better if they were released in the late 80's to early 90's as they were intended. One of the biggest problems I have with the prequels is that they are so clean and shiny from CGI that I have a hard time accepting that they were supposed to come before. You can argue that releasing them this late was better for the franchise because it introduced a new generation of kids to the films, but I don't think it was better for the movies themselves. Just my opinion.

I think it's great that you are enthusiastic about the books and don't want to wait, but these things take time and nobody is going to be robbed of their enjoyment of these books because of the years prior it took to get them off the ground.

Besides...of all the people who should feel like their time has been wasted here, I assure you it isn't us fans.

My advice...just sit back, relax and wait and see what the new Valiant looks like. You might even like it.

I agree with you that post-launch all of this waiting will not matter as much, but just to play the flip side of the coin... If VEI had launched sooner (granted, it would have probably needed to be much sooner than was realistically possible), then it would have been more likely for them to continue on with the original continuity. That is something that I would have really preferred, but I realized that it's been so many years now (it was probably too many years even by the time VEI bought them) that if you were to pick up on continuity most of these characters would be past their prime.

That being said, though, I would much rather VEI took 7 years to get to launch if that is what was necessary to create a sustainable company, with great stories, and tight continuity. I love that Valiant is being more "talkative" now with Facebook and Twitter. It's nice to see an end to the waiting in site.

[dino]

A year or two ago I would have been very excited but now I'm barely even interested, sorry but VEI wasted to much time in secerts to me interested.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that you arent the only one feeling that way here, but in the long run im pretty confident they will be putting out some great books with shweet creative teams.
Don't let what came before spoil what is about to happen.

If they get top notch creators that I like then I might start to be interested, but generally I hate people and companies that waste my time.

I would think hiring Warren Simons away from Marvel to be executive editor is a pretty good start as far as top notch creators, unless you don't like his work.

Other than that, when the books finally come out I would hope you would base your opinion on their merits vs. how long it took the company to produce, nobody else was in line at the bankruptcy auction to give you product any faster.

Warren Simons is a brilliant hire. That guy is going to kill at his new job.

You don't know the half of it!

[geocarr]

A year or two ago I would have been very excited but now I'm barely even interested, sorry but VEI wasted to much time in secerts to me interested.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that you arent the only one feeling that way here, but in the long run im pretty confident they will be putting out some great books with shweet creative teams.
Don't let what came before spoil what is about to happen.

If they get top notch creators that I like then I might start to be interested, but generally I hate people and companies that waste my time.

I would think hiring Warren Simons away from Marvel to be executive editor is a pretty good start as far as top notch creators, unless you don't like his work.

Other than that, when the books finally come out I would hope you would base your opinion on their merits vs. how long it took the company to produce, nobody else was in line at the bankruptcy auction to give you product any faster.

Warren Simons is a brilliant hire. That guy is going to kill at his new job.

You don't know the half of it!

God, I can't wait!

[dino]

That being said, though, I would much rather VEI took 7 years to get to launch if that is what was necessary to create a sustainable company, with great stories, and tight continuity. I love that Valiant is being more "talkative" now with Facebook and Twitter. It's nice to see an end to the waiting in site.

I fully encourage everyone to like the Valiant facebook page or follow the Twitter account. These are just getting started but are being built to be the prime sources to get information about Valiant Comics.

http://www.facebook.com/ValiantComics
http://twitter.com/#!/ValiantComics

[StarBrand]

Good seeing you here, Dino.

[Daniel Jackson]

Good seeing you here, Dino.

x2

[400yrs]

I definitely check the facebook comments daily.

[Burrito Boy]

How many people complaining about the Star Wars prequels muttered "they would have been better if they came out sooner"? Again, I'm guessing not at all.

Actually, I fit that description. Seriously, think about it. If Lucas had made the movies earlier, he would have had different actors for one. And I'd like to think the scripts would have been better if they had come out before George's arrogance was so great that he thought he didn't need a co-writer. Then there's the whole CGI debacle. The aliens in the original movies looked a hell of a lot better than all the computer animated *SQUEE* in the prequels. Tell me that Jabba doesn't look freakin' awesome in Return of the Jedi. Then there's the whole anime style influence from movies like Blade and The Matrix. Yoda flippin' around? Come on! But I'll stop before I get carried away.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

[greg]

How many people complaining about the Star Wars prequels muttered "they would have been better if they came out sooner"? Again, I'm guessing not at all.

Actually, I fit that description. Seriously, think about it. If Lucas had made the movies earlier, he would have had different actors for one. And I'd like to think the scripts would have been better if they had come out before George's arrogance was so great that he thought he didn't need a co-writer. Then there's the whole CGI debacle. The aliens in the original movies looked a hell of a lot better than all the computer animated *SQUEE* in the prequels. Tell me that Jabba doesn't look freakin' awesome in Return of the Jedi. Then there's the whole anime style influence from movies like Blade and The Matrix. Yoda flippin' around? Come on! But I'll stop before I get carried away.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

I still believe that if the internet had existed at the time of the original Star Wars trilogy,
it wouldn't have been as "awesome" as we make it out to be today.

Star Wars comes out... it's great.
Then Empire... it's great.
Next is Return of the Jedi... 6 years after Star Wars...
6 years of waiting for the big finale of the movies.

What do we get?
A grand finale of the Death Star exploding... again.
The revelation that Luke and Leia were brother and sister... who kissed in the last movie.
Finally, the credits roll... with... a sing-along with teddy bears.

[xodacia81]

How many people complaining about the Star Wars prequels muttered "they would have been better if they came out sooner"? Again, I'm guessing not at all.

Actually, I fit that description. Seriously, think about it. If Lucas had made the movies earlier, he would have had different actors for one. And I'd like to think the scripts would have been better if they had come out before George's arrogance was so great that he thought he didn't need a co-writer. Then there's the whole CGI debacle. The aliens in the original movies looked a hell of a lot better than all the computer animated *SQUEE* in the prequels. Tell me that Jabba doesn't look freakin' awesome in Return of the Jedi. Then there's the whole anime style influence from movies like Blade and The Matrix. Yoda flippin' around? Come on! But I'll stop before I get carried away.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

Just a note..."George" has ALWAYS been arrogant and it has always been extreme. He has just plain lost his talent and his knack for knowing what does and does not work. Case in point: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls.

He hasn't had a truly great project since The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. If you haven't seen them, I highly suggest the dvds, where they are known as The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones, are packed with historical documentaries and, sadly, lack the intros/outro's featuring a 93 year old Indy. However, you CAN find those on Youtube. Most are throwaways but a few are very funny and a few are very poignant.

[Chiclo]

How many people complaining about the Star Wars prequels muttered "they would have been better if they came out sooner"? Again, I'm guessing not at all.

Actually, I fit that description. Seriously, think about it. If Lucas had made the movies earlier, he would have had different actors for one. And I'd like to think the scripts would have been better if they had come out before George's arrogance was so great that he thought he didn't need a co-writer. Then there's the whole CGI debacle. The aliens in the original movies looked a hell of a lot better than all the computer animated *SQUEE* in the prequels. Tell me that Jabba doesn't look freakin' awesome in Return of the Jedi. Then there's the whole anime style influence from movies like Blade and The Matrix. Yoda flippin' around? Come on! But I'll stop before I get carried away.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

I still believe that if the internet had existed at the time of the original Star Wars trilogy,
it wouldn't have been as "awesome" as we make it out to be today.

Star Wars comes out... it's great.
Then Empire... it's great.
Next is Return of the Jedi... 6 years after Star Wars...
6 years of waiting for the big finale of the movies.

What do we get?
A grand finale of the Death Star exploding... again.
The revelation that Luke and Leia were brother and sister... who kissed in the last movie.
Finally, the credits roll... with... a sing-along with teddy bears.

Greg, I don't think I have ever so solidly agreed with any of your statements as I do now.

[ilan]

How many people complaining about the Star Wars prequels muttered "they would have been better if they came out sooner"? Again, I'm guessing not at all.

Actually, I fit that description. Seriously, think about it. If Lucas had made the movies earlier, he would have had different actors for one. And I'd like to think the scripts would have been better if they had come out before George's arrogance was so great that he thought he didn't need a co-writer. Then there's the whole CGI debacle. The aliens in the original movies looked a hell of a lot better than all the computer animated *SQUEE* in the prequels. Tell me that Jabba doesn't look freakin' awesome in Return of the Jedi. Then there's the whole anime style influence from movies like Blade and The Matrix. Yoda flippin' around? Come on! But I'll stop before I get carried away.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

I still believe that if the internet had existed at the time of the original Star Wars trilogy,
it wouldn't have been as "awesome" as we make it out to be today.

Star Wars comes out... it's great.
Then Empire... it's great.
Next is Return of the Jedi... 6 years after Star Wars...
6 years of waiting for the big finale of the movies.

What do we get?
A grand finale of the Death Star exploding... again.
The revelation that Luke and Leia were brother and sister... who kissed in the last movie.
Finally, the credits roll... with... a sing-along with teddy bears.

Greg, I don't think I have ever so solidly agreed with any of your statements as I do now.

I'll second that, however Lucas always said they were kids movies and at the time it was ground breaking for sci-fi so no one really cared that ROTJ was lame, especially us kids. Hmm it's kinda like original VH ... creative lightning in a bottle, placed on a pedestal to which nothing can compare. Hopefully VEI can market their way to glory like Lucas did.

[xodacia81]

How many people complaining about the Star Wars prequels muttered "they would have been better if they came out sooner"? Again, I'm guessing not at all.

Actually, I fit that description. Seriously, think about it. If Lucas had made the movies earlier, he would have had different actors for one. And I'd like to think the scripts would have been better if they had come out before George's arrogance was so great that he thought he didn't need a co-writer. Then there's the whole CGI debacle. The aliens in the original movies looked a hell of a lot better than all the computer animated *SQUEE* in the prequels. Tell me that Jabba doesn't look freakin' awesome in Return of the Jedi. Then there's the whole anime style influence from movies like Blade and The Matrix. Yoda flippin' around? Come on! But I'll stop before I get carried away.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

I still believe that if the internet had existed at the time of the original Star Wars trilogy,
it wouldn't have been as "awesome" as we make it out to be today.

Star Wars comes out... it's great.
Then Empire... it's great.
Next is Return of the Jedi... 6 years after Star Wars...
6 years of waiting for the big finale of the movies.

What do we get?
A grand finale of the Death Star exploding... again.
The revelation that Luke and Leia were brother and sister... who kissed in the last movie.
Finally, the credits roll... with... a sing-along with teddy bears.

Greg, I don't think I have ever so solidly agreed with any of your statements as I do now.

I agree, too, but still, ROTJ was cheesy fun. Unlike the last 3 movies. Those were just cheesy, and in a bad way-at best. (shivers)

[Dr. Solar]

"Lame" and "Cheesy" are not words that should be ever applied to Jedi.

You all have incorrect opinions.

[Elveen]

"Lame" and "Cheesy" are not words that should be ever applied to Jedi.

You all have incorrect opinions.

I agree. But....

The Ewoks, Han, Leia, and Chewy take out the Emperor's best ...... not so much.

But the rest is gold.

[xodacia81]

"Lame" and "Cheesy" are not words that should be ever applied to Jedi.

You all have incorrect opinions.

I agree. But....

The Ewoks, Han, Leia, and Chewy take out the Emperor's best ...... not so much.

But the rest is gold.

All that is exactly why it is GOLDEN CHEESE. It is the good kind, the stuff you spend 100 bucks an ounce, on...not the 2 dollar spray crap from a can.

[Dr. Solar]

"Lame" and "Cheesy" are not words that should be ever applied to Jedi.

You all have incorrect opinions.

I agree. But....

The Ewoks, Han, Leia, and Chewy take out the Emperor's best ...... not so much.

They had the element of surprise and absurdity on their side!

[Elveen]

"Lame" and "Cheesy" are not words that should be ever applied to Jedi.

You all have incorrect opinions.

I agree. But....

The Ewoks, Han, Leia, and Chewy take out the Emperor's best ...... not so much.

They had the element of surprise and absurdity on their side!

The only part I liked was when the 2 logs squished the walker. The rest,

I can say that my kids LOVE the ewoks.

[ian_house]

I think someone needs to come up with a counterpoint for Godwins Law for us geeks.

Because at some point every internet discussion by geeks ends up at Star Wars!

[greg]

I think someone needs to come up with a counterpoint for Godwins Law for us geeks.

Because at some point every internet discussion by geeks ends up at Star Wars!

It's still Godwin's Law. Stormtroopers prominently figured into both histories... but I guess we could call it Nerdwin's Law.

[Chiclo]

"Lame" and "Cheesy" are not words that should be ever applied to Jedi.

You all have incorrect opinions.

Look, Return of the Jedi is not Revenge of the Sith. It's not even fair to compare them.