New artists on Valiant relaunch?

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:28 pm

magnusr wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Burrito Boy wrote:
Lightning Strike wrote:Let's assume for an instant that none of the previous artists from Valiant's past will be on board for the relaunch. Which artists from the comic biz today would you like to see?

I'd like to see Ivan Reis, Ethan VanSciver, Alan Davis and Mark Bagley on some new Valiant books.
That's an assumption I don't think I can make. The thought of Valiant without Jim Calafiore or Yvel Guichet makes me cry.

But I'd like to add my vote for that Stu Berryhill guy.
His anatomy sucks!
His own or what he draws?

/Magnus

PS, Calafiore and/or Guichet would be great additions as would Berryhill.

At least a couple of those guys are busy these days.

marvel1 · Post by **marvel1** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:29 am

The irony of VEI announcing new VALIANT books on the shadow of DH cancelling its Gold Key line doesnt escape me.
The last laugh goes to Dino.

myron · Post by **myron** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:56 am

marvel1 wrote:The irony of VEI announcing new VALIANT books on the shadow of DH cancelling its Gold Key line doesnt escape me.
The last laugh goes to Dino.

not quite yet, but soon

SpaceGhost · Post by **SpaceGhost** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:32 pm

With DH canceling the Gold Key books, could they find their way to the Valiant universe?

SG

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:53 pm

SpaceGhost wrote:With DH canceling the Gold Key books, could they find their way to the Valiant universe?

SG

I would be surprised if Dark Horse would give up the rights unless they are having some serious money problems.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:05 am

Hell, if you wanted to play it out to close the actual time gap and have the characters not aged much, have an extended 2-3 month battle with an spider-alien armada after right after Jack died in 1999. Use relativity to an advantage so that by the time they get back it's 2012. The GK 3 can be alluded to being on a different ship and got separated during the battles. Leaves doors open just in case plus sets everyone back in place with all the ramifications of being gone for 15+ years.

Fanboy moment =

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:10 am

X-O HoboJoe wrote:Hell, if you wanted to play it out to close the actual time gap and have the characters not aged much, have an extended 2-3 month battle with an spider-alien armada after right after Jack died in 1999. Use relativity to an advantage so that by the time they get back it's 2012. The GK 3 can be alluded to being on a different ship and got separated during the battles. Leaves doors open just in case plus sets everyone back in place with all the ramifications of being gone for 15+ years.

Fanboy moment =

Could work, but yes, rather fanwanky. Still, it's plausible. It worked for Aric of Dacia, after all.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:19 am

Could they even reference the GK 3 to explain the disappearance or would that get them into legal problems?

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:35 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:Could they even reference the GK 3 to explain the disappearance or would that get them into legal problems?

Depends. Vague references to "the others" or something, might be fine. If left THAT vague and not directly ref'd or, of course, named. Don't use specific things that happened to those characters or because of those characters, in the scripts, at least in as much as can be avoided. If that happens, maybe you'll be fine.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:42 am

xodacia81 wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Could they even reference the GK 3 to explain the disappearance or would that get them into legal problems?
Depends. Vague references to "the others" or something, might be fine. If left THAT vague and not directly ref'd or, of course, named. Don't use specific things that happened to those characters or because of those characters, in the scripts, at least in as much as can be avoided. If that happens, maybe you'll be fine.

I know the fans will get what they are referring to, but new readers might be scratching their heads with something too vague. Wish them luck finding the best way to do it.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:00 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Could they even reference the GK 3 to explain the disappearance or would that get them into legal problems?
Depends. Vague references to "the others" or something, might be fine. If left THAT vague and not directly ref'd or, of course, named. Don't use specific things that happened to those characters or because of those characters, in the scripts, at least in as much as can be avoided. If that happens, maybe you'll be fine.
I know the fans will get what they are referring to, but new readers might be scratching their heads with something too vague. Wish them luck finding the best way to do it.

I think new fans will just always wonder who these "others" are and if VEI can't ever get the GK3 back, then one day in the far future, they could come up with some alternative that explains the functions once served by the GK 3.

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:00 pm

xodacia81 wrote:...they could come up with some alternative that explains the functions once served by the GK 3.

Let's be honest, it's really the GK 1. Solar.

Magnus is from the future, so he has no impact on the past or present.
Turok is from no where... the Lost Land.

If you lose those two, you really haven't lost anything about Valiant... except those two.

If you don't have Solar, then you don't have the "god" of the Valiant universe.

The question is whether you really need one.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:04 pm

greg wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:...they could come up with some alternative that explains the functions once served by the GK 3.
Let's be honest, it's really the GK 1. Solar.

Magnus is from the future, so he has no impact on the past or present.
Turok is from no where... the Lost Land.

If you lose those two, you really haven't lost anything about Valiant... except those two.

If you don't have Solar, then you don't have the "god" of the Valiant universe.

The question is whether you really need one.

Gilad or some sort of "being behind the Darque Power/DP as its own thing", maybe.

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:11 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
greg wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:...they could come up with some alternative that explains the functions once served by the GK 3.
Let's be honest, it's really the GK 1. Solar.

Magnus is from the future, so he has no impact on the past or present.
Turok is from no where... the Lost Land.

If you lose those two, you really haven't lost anything about Valiant... except those two.

If you don't have Solar, then you don't have the "god" of the Valiant universe.

The question is whether you really need one.
Gilad or some sort of "being behind the Darque Power/DP as its own thing", maybe.

Funny you should mention Gilad, while I was just reading this quote from Executive Editor Warren Simons from yesterday: "a guy like Eternal Warrior -- I cannot wait for you to see what we’re doing with him. I mean, the possibilities are seemingly limitless for a character like that. And how he ties into the Universe...wait...I’m getting ahead of myself here."

That sounds to me like Eternal Warrior is KEY to all aspects of the universe.

Jersen · Post by **Jersen** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:11 pm

Makes sense to me as he would be the character that is a constant presence in all points on the Valiant timeline. That makes me very excited!

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:22 pm

Jersen wrote:Makes sense to me as he would be the character that is a constant presence in all points on the Valiant timeline. That makes me very excited!

It's also interesting when we think about how Solar "created" the original Valiant universe
with the culimating event being highlighted in the all black-covered Solar #10...
we get the first appearance of the Eternal Warrior in the same book.

Solar #10 could be important to the origin of Valiant... twice.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:41 pm

greg wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:...they could come up with some alternative that explains the functions once served by the GK 3.
Let's be honest, it's really the GK 1. Solar.

Magnus is from the future, so he has no impact on the past or present.
Turok is from no where... the Lost Land.

If you lose those two, you really haven't lost anything about Valiant... except those two.

If you don't have Solar, then you don't have the "god" of the Valiant universe.

The question is whether you really need one.

The more I think about, the more I think Valiant will be just fine without the GK3. As much as I love them as characters, Magnus and Turok aren't essential to the Valiant U and were never even big sellers.

Yeah Solar created the universe but that doesn't mean he always has to be around. And like you said somewhere he's already known to disappear for hundreds of years at a time.

redskindavyd · Post by **redskindavyd** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:39 am

Off the top of my head, I'd love to see...

Darryl Banks,
Luke Ross,
Andrea DiVito,
Nicola Scott,
Ron Lim,
Mike Grell,
Bob Hall,
Mike Leeke

...as artists on the new Valiant titles!

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:45 am

I wonder if VEI is contacting some of the guys who worked for DC, but haven't been introduced on the new titles. Guys like Mike Norton and Jamal Igle might be out of work and looking.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:34 am

Jay Tomio wrote:
400yrs wrote:I wonder if VEI is contacting some of the guys who worked for DC, but haven't been introduced on the new titles. Guys like Mike Norton and Jamal Igle might be out of work and looking.
2 consistent vets who put out books on time.

Quite. It would be a smart move and in keeping with the old Valiant, in that they are solid pros/vets that won't cost absolute top dollar. I think some good vets-even if "newer" vets-sprinkled with some very new talent would be the way to go. I don't just mean on illustrative art, either, but on the writing side, as well.

hulk181man · Post by **hulk181man** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:37 am

redskindavyd wrote:Off the top of my head, I'd love to see...

Darryl Banks,
Luke Ross,
Andrea DiVito,
Nicola Scott,
Ron Lim,
Mike Grell,
Bob Hall,
Mike Leeke

...as artists on the new Valiant titles!

Not a Lim fan but great choices otherwise...and don't forget...the best ever

ROB LIEFELD !!

geocarr · Post by **geocarr** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:05 am

redskindavyd wrote:Off the top of my head, I'd love to see...

Darryl Banks,
Luke Ross,
Andrea DiVito,
Nicola Scott,
Ron Lim,
Mike Grell,
Bob Hall,
Mike Leeke

...as artists on the new Valiant titles!

I think Mike Leeke died young sometime in the past 2 years.

redskindavyd · Post by **redskindavyd** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:13 am

geocarr wrote:
redskindavyd wrote:Off the top of my head, I'd love to see...

Darryl Banks,
Luke Ross,
Andrea DiVito,
Nicola Scott,
Ron Lim,
Mike Grell,
Bob Hall,
Mike Leeke

...as artists on the new Valiant titles!
I think Mike Leeke died young sometime in the past 2 years.

I think you're thinking of someone else.
http://mikeleeke.deviantart.com/

geocarr · Post by **geocarr** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:46 am

redskindavyd wrote:
geocarr wrote:
redskindavyd wrote:Off the top of my head, I'd love to see...

Darryl Banks,
Luke Ross,
Andrea DiVito,
Nicola Scott,
Ron Lim,
Mike Grell,
Bob Hall,
Mike Leeke

...as artists on the new Valiant titles!
I think Mike Leeke died young sometime in the past 2 years.
I think you're thinking of someone else.
http://mikeleeke.deviantart.com/

I googled it and believe I was thinking of Rik Levins who did pass away last year.

Mike, if you're reading this, I apologize and hope you live to be 101.

Burrito Boy · Post by **Burrito Boy** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:58 pm

redskindavyd wrote:Off the top of my head, I'd love to see...

Darryl Banks,
Luke Ross,
Andrea DiVito,
Nicola Scott,
Ron Lim,
Mike Grell,
Bob Hall,
Mike Leeke

...as artists on the new Valiant titles!

You had me at Mike Grell.

Note to self: How the hell did you forget to include Mike Grell in your list? You lousy son of a *SQUEE*

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