Is VEI dead or dying?

damien308 · Post by **damien308** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:26 am

well just got on ebay and looked up defiant stuff and got me 6 boxes of the plasm cards factory sealed for only 8 bucks what a deal.

does anyone remember if there were any special cards in packs ? autographs or any kind of chase cards ?

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:32 pm

chase cards in 2 levels they go with the one in he binder

myron · Post by **myron** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:20 am

damien308 wrote:i remember defiant but broadway ?

another quick flash in the pan because of monetary issues iirc...some great stories too...

knights on broadway
fatale
starseed

I know there are more but these for certain...

UnknownTales · Post by **UnknownTales** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:54 pm

Does VEI belong in the "Dead Universes" thread?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:16 pm

Don't bury them just yet.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:22 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:Don't bury them just yet.

I'm with you DJ. I hold out hope.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:32 pm

as do I

damien308 · Post by **damien308** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:31 am

as far as the plasm binder, does each one come with the same bonus card ?

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:34 am

damien308 wrote:as far as the plasm binder, does each one come with the same bonus card ?

I believe at least one of them doesn't come with the card (3rd edition?). Otherwise, as far as I know, all 1st and 2nd edition binders come with the same card.

damien308 · Post by **damien308** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:38 am

well thats boring

these are dirt cheap. but im really glad cuz im a huge shooter fan and i wasnt able to get these back in the day

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:57 am

damien308 wrote:well thats boring

these are dirt cheap. but im really glad cuz im a huge shooter fan and i wasnt able to get these back in the day

Well, the card that comes with the binder is ONLY available in the binder, so if someone just had the cards and not the binder they wouldn't be able to complete the Level 1 bonus card subset. A marketing trick back in the day to force you to buy both boxes of cards and the binder to put them in. A lot easier to swallow now that both can be had so cheaply.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:47 pm

I bought Harbinger. I needed it. XO too. I didn't need A&A and am glad I didn't spend any further money to support this company who I have come to label - disingenuous.

Just one consumers opinion.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:09 pm

the plasm binder is a great reminder of a BAD idea

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:00 am

Zaphod wrote:I bought Harbinger. I needed it. XO too. I didn't need A&A and am glad I didn't spend any further money to support this company who I have come to label - disingenuous.

Just one consumers opinion.

A little harsh, how do you know that they didnt genuinely mean to release comics. Thousand s adn thousands of things could have happened to stop them. Clearly they havent just given up after spending huge amounts of money on copywright, law suits, website design, talent, etc. only to quit after making what couldnt have been much off 3 hardcovers.

disingenuos insinuates they clearly meant to delude you, usually to their profit/gain. VEI havent gained anything by not doing anything for over a year.

Crow331 · Post by **Crow331** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:18 am

Valiant is still alive. The wheels are still turning.

Phantom.. · Post by **Phantom..** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:21 am

Imageowner 2 has recieved so updates that he shared at vcollectors society that keeps me confident aswell

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:29 am

I do not mind that there are no new books this moment..... I most likely could not afford them right now.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:40 am

Phantom. wrote:Imageowner 2 has recieved so updates that he shared at vcollectors society that keeps me confident aswell

Why can't they post updates on their site and on this message board? (which is technically their message board)

Why post updates on a message board that no one goes to? (sorry I2)

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:41 am

If they really want to keep us in the dark they should post over at Lyria.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:46 am

jedimarley wrote:If they really want to keep us in the dark they should post over at Lyria.

Dammit . . I just spit coke on my keyboard . . .

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:48 am

siren3-4 wrote:
jedimarley wrote:If they really want to keep us in the dark they should post over at Lyria.
Dammit . . I just spit coke on my keyboard . . .

<snort>

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:12 am

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:46 am

ian_house wrote:
Zaphod wrote:I bought Harbinger. I needed it. XO too. I didn't need A&A and am glad I didn't spend any further money to support this company who I have come to label - disingenuous.

Just one consumers opinion.
A little harsh, how do you know that they didnt genuinely mean to release comics. Thousand s adn thousands of things could have happened to stop them. Clearly they havent just given up after spending huge amounts of money on copywright, law suits, website design, talent, etc. only to quit after making what couldnt have been much off 3 hardcovers.

disingenuos insinuates they clearly meant to delude you, usually to their profit/gain. VEI havent gained anything by not doing anything for over a year.

I agree its a harsh assessment. I never said I knew their intent but this is my feeling on the matter. Clearly we don't know anything other than what we've been told. Which as has been pointed out, has been nothing for the past year.

If that is their marketing strategy, they were doomed to failure from the start. Coca Cola, one of the most recognizable brands on the planet spends billions on advertising because they know that when it comes to the consumer, out of sight equals out of mind.

Thats a segue to nothing but in my opnion, they intentionally deluded me (I can't speak for how others feel) into believing they were working towards producing monthly pamphlets by the end of last year. Their silence on the matter in these 9 months has been deafening.

I believe they clearly deluded me into believing their interest was in reviving Valiant in a monthly pamphlet format when it seems their true desire was in licensing the properties.

I have no interest in these "rumours" or "hints" that I am not cool enough or in the right crowd to hear about. I want an official statement on their website. As a prospective client and consumer of their material, I'd expect at least that much.

Long post significantly shortened, VEI has lost me as a potential buyer until they win back my money. I don't expect to be in a majority, I am certain I am not alone but that is how I feel on the matter.

You can say what you wish about my opinion on the matter, but they are my opinion. VEI needs to change it and the others who feel like me.

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:47 pm

I can definetly see your point man, some kind of clarification, or a simple friendly message would be nice.

Zaphod wrote: I have no interest in these "rumours" or "hints" that I am not cool enough or in the right crowd to hear about. I want an official statement on their website.

Gotta agree this is a lot more than a little annoying as well.

Also what is the Valiant Collectors Society, why/where is there a different board?

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:23 pm

Zaphod wrote:Coca Cola, one of the most recognizable brands on the planet spends billions on advertising because they know that when it comes to the consumer, out of sight equals out of mind.

That's not a fair statement since Coke has something to market to the consumer.