What artist would you not want to come back?

geocarr · Post by **geocarr** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:41 am

I liked Voz and didn't like Sears except for a few covers. The longer Sears worked on X-O, the less I liked his art.

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:05 am

IanAlexavier wrote:I liked Sears too.. most of it isnt house style though. I guess I have mixed feelings about it then.

Maybe Bart could go towards a house style on the inside and then let him do his thing on covers

early sears is fine...the later stuff though? He almost became a characature (sp) of himself...

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:02 am

You know the reason most don't like VOZ was probably due to Inker: John Dixon. He used a ball point pen on some issues. He even managed to butcher some of Rags work.
I don't think he had any inking experience when he started.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:45 am

Chris that Voz piece in your FS thread is gorgeous - I think that alone should dispel any rumours that he is not a good artist.

As far as those sketch cards, well - they ARE just sketches.

-slym

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Wed May 27, 2009 1:03 pm

charles_yo wrote:ok, thanks god my name didn't come up in this.

(seriously, did anyone really look at turok #24?!? Yikes!)

It's OK Charles, we forgive you.

Next time you see that Paul Creddick guy tell him to stick with storytelling....

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Thu May 28, 2009 9:38 am

Art is art, sometimes it can be distracting but I can either ignore it or get used to it if necessary.

Its the bad writers I don't want back.

Bad art does not kill comics (Liefeld, the exception) but bad writing definately does.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu May 28, 2009 2:23 pm

Zaphod wrote:Art is art, sometimes it can be distracting but I can either ignore it or get used to it if necessary.

I've actually stopped buying books for awhile because I found the artwork on a particular series to be so intolerable. I would have to wait for the artist to finish his run before I would buy the book again.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Thu May 28, 2009 3:09 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
Zaphod wrote:Art is art, sometimes it can be distracting but I can either ignore it or get used to it if necessary.

I've actually stopped buying books for awhile because I found the artwork on a particular series to be so intolerable. I would have to wait for the artist to finish his run before I would buy the book again.

Fair enough, Larry Stroman almost had me quit X-Factor in the 90's. I never had any experience with Valiant artists that made me consider quitting the title though, mostly the writing.

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Thu May 28, 2009 7:13 pm

There is a lot that effects the final product.
You can have a great artist that looks like crap because of a bad inker or bad coloring. Or even a bad printing. Look at some of the later Acclaim stuff. Like Calafiore on Armorines. I think the coloring really messed up the art.

I can't remember which later Valiant books were effected but I know there were some that had the entire print run messed up from bad offset that made the printed pages look fuzzy.

On the other hand you can have a great inker or colorist improve a bad artist.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Thu May 28, 2009 9:26 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
Zaphod wrote:Art is art, sometimes it can be distracting but I can either ignore it or get used to it if necessary.

I've actually stopped buying books for awhile because I found the artwork on a particular series to be so intolerable. I would have to wait for the artist to finish his run before I would buy the book again.

A cousin of mine has said that he's almost skipped some issues of Fables because of the guest artist. The one he hates the most? Mike ALRED! Yeah, I know. But, different strokes, I guess.

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Thu May 28, 2009 10:05 pm

x-omatic wrote:I can't remember which later Valiant books were effected but I know there were some that had the entire print run messed up from bad offset that made the printed pages look fuzzy.

The last issue of the Visitor.

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Fri May 29, 2009 1:19 am

dellamorte wrote:
x-omatic wrote:I can't remember which later Valiant books were effected but I know there were some that had the entire print run messed up from bad offset that made the printed pages look fuzzy.
The last issue of the Visitor.

Yes thats the one! I remember seeing original B&W art and just was amazed at how messed up the printing was.

dave · Post by **dave** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:24 pm

Heath wrote:I know he's done some great work elsewhere, but I never liked Ernie Colon's work on Magnus. I found it very distracting and not very VALIANTish.

BOO!

You're not my fren anymore!

JustCallMeAric · Post by **JustCallMeAric** » Sat May 30, 2009 5:06 pm

x-omatic wrote:You know the reason most don't like VOZ was probably due to Inker: John Dixon. He used a ball point pen on some issues. He even managed to butcher some of Rags work.
I don't think he had any inking experience when he started.

I was disappointed with all of Voz's Valiant stuff that I have seen. If the inker was that bad why did they keep him so long?