What about Magnus and Solar?

PaulBell007 · Post by **PaulBell007** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:59 am

Hi. I'm new to this forum, but a Valiant-fan from pre-Unity days, so forgive me if I'm asking a question that's been answered already.

I've noticed on the new Valiant site that Magnus, Robot Fighter and Solar, Man of the Atom aren't included in the line-up. I read on Wiki that a few years ago the rights reverted back to Western Publishing, which has since been acquired by Random House. How will this affect future reprint editions, especially Unity, which lean heavily on those characters. Hell, Solar gave birth to the Valiant U in the wake of Solar #0. Does Valiant Entertainment plan on reaquiring these characters? And what about Turok?

Anyway, I'm glad this line is coming back, despite these concern.

Rubiks-Q-Bert · Post by **Rubiks-Q-Bert** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:13 am

Wait and see is all you can right now.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:37 am

PaulBell007 wrote:Hi. I'm new to this forum, but a Valiant-fan from pre-Unity days, so forgive me if I'm asking a question that's been answered already.

I've noticed on the new Valiant site that Magnus, Robot Fighter and Solar, Man of the Atom aren't included in the line-up. I read on Wiki that a few years ago the rights reverted back to Western Publishing, which has since been acquired by Random House. How will this affect future reprint editions, especially Unity, which lean heavily on those characters. Hell, Solar gave birth to the Valiant U in the wake of Solar #0. Does Valiant Entertainment plan on reaquiring these characters? And what about Turok?

Anyway, I'm glad this line is coming back, despite these concern.

All the old stories can be collected and re-printed as is . . . with Magnus and Solar . . .

Apparently because they are stories that have already been told and are owned by VEI they can be used . . . no new stories can use Solar, Magnus or Turok at this time . . .

VEI does have the rights to Phil Selesky though . . .

Hope that helps . . and welcome to the board . .

Slashes-With-Claws · Post by **Slashes-With-Claws** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:14 am

It is annoying. Turok is one of my favorite comics. Well, I hope something gets worked out in the end so I can see new Turok; though, I still have a lot of Valiant Turok that I need to find.

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JustCallMeAric · Post by **JustCallMeAric** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:58 pm

Theyll have to get Solar back eventually. No matter what it costs, hes just too important to the Valiant Universe

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:15 pm

I'm sure VEI will do everything within reason to get the GK characters back.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:21 pm

If they don't get Solar I'm gonna punch the internet.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:37 pm

They have Phil . . . isn't that enough . . .

Asharad · Post by **Asharad** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:54 pm

siren3-4 wrote:They have Phil . . . isn't that enough . . .

Only if Phil goes nova, then inverts into a black hole destroying his reality, and then recreates a flawed new universe complete with mutants.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:05 pm

Phil is the Key, solar is a childhood hero.

JustCallMeAric · Post by **JustCallMeAric** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:02 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:If they don't get Solar I'm gonna punch the internet.

I'm right there with you

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:53 am

ya solar mags and turok are needed for true valiant world

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:00 am

I have to totally disagree about Turok . . .

I just don't see him as being needed at all . . .

Phil can always be Solar . . hell he could read some other superhero book from the 40's and have that character pop out of his head . . . Hey . . don't they own the destroyer ??

Magnus will be missed . . . but maybe in the future something can be worked out . . in the meantime we can just focus on the present . . .

Escaflown4 · Post by **Escaflown4** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:07 am

superman-prime wrote:ya solar mags and turok are needed for true valiant world

Unfortunately I have to agree with Siren as well. Turok didn't really play a crucial role in the Valiant Universe. His title didn't really interact much at all with the rest of the Valiant characters.

Escaflown4 · Post by **Escaflown4** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:10 am

siren3-4 wrote:I have to totally disagree about Turok . . .

I just don't see him as being needed at all . . .

Phil can always be Solar . . hell he could read some other superhero book from the 40's and have that character pop out of his head . . . Hey . . don't they own the destroyer ??

Magnus will be missed . . . but maybe in the future something can be worked out . . in the meantime we can just focus on the present . . .

VEI could use either the Destroyer or Erica Pierce, but the Destroyer kinda resembles Solar and I could see a potential lawsuit drama come into play. As for Erica, they could use her, but they'll need to come up with a heck of a story to get her to change her point of view about life.

myron · Post by **myron** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:11 am

Escaflown4 wrote:
superman-prime wrote:ya solar mags and turok are needed for true valiant world
Unfortunately I have to agree with Siren as well. Turok didn't really play a crucial role in the Valiant Universe. His title didn't really interact much at all with the rest of the Valiant characters.

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:46 am

JustCallMeAric wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:If they don't get Solar I'm gonna punch the internet.
I'm right there with you

As long as its not a Superboy punch

-neil

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:07 pm

dont go breaking in to a nother universe

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:30 pm

Turok may not be "needed", but I would still like to see the character back in the Valiant universe. I just hope VEI makes better use of him than VH1 did.

JustCallMeAric · Post by **JustCallMeAric** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:04 pm

ncameron wrote:
JustCallMeAric wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:If they don't get Solar I'm gonna punch the internet.
I'm right there with you

As long as its not a Superboy punch

-neil

No that would just be crazy

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:35 pm

siren3-4 wrote:Phil can always be Solar . . hell he could read some other superhero book from the 40's and have that character pop out of his head . . .

Not really, no.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:45 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:Phil can always be Solar . . hell he could read some other superhero book from the 40's and have that character pop out of his head . . .
Not really, no.

The mind is a powerful thing . . .

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:48 pm

siren3-4 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:Phil can always be Solar . . hell he could read some other superhero book from the 40's and have that character pop out of his head . . .
Not really, no.
The mind is a powerful thing . . .

Let me put it like this

Yes, many, many, many countless characters could pop out of Phil's head, from Mickey Mouse to the Lone Ranger to Buck Rogers, but it doesn't mean that any of them can or should take Solar's place.

VEI could go through an entire catalogue of public domain characters looking for one that is "kindda like Solar" to replace Doctor Solar with, but it would not be the same, and readers would not abide by it.

They might as well reboot the universe and replace Solar with a public domain character they could control, or even an entirely original creation... but would readers accept it? No, not really.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:52 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:Phil can always be Solar . . hell he could read some other superhero book from the 40's and have that character pop out of his head . . .
Not really, no.
The mind is a powerful thing . . .
Let me put it like this

Yes, many, many, many countless characters could pop out of Phil's head, from Mickey Mouse to the Lone Ranger to Buck Rogers, but it doesn't mean that any of them can or should take Solar's place.

VEI could go through an entire catalogue of public domain characters looking for one that is "kindda like Solar" to replace Doctor Solar with, but it would not be the same, and readers would not abide by it.

They might as well reboot the universe and replace Solar with a public domain character they could control, or even an entirely original creation... but would readers accept it? No, not really.

I don't know why people just can't accept Phil . . .

I'd be fine with it . . .

(I was just joking about the popping out of the head thing . . .

)

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:54 pm

siren3-4 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:Phil can always be Solar . . hell he could read some other superhero book from the 40's and have that character pop out of his head . . .
Not really, no.
The mind is a powerful thing . . .
Let me put it like this

Yes, many, many, many countless characters could pop out of Phil's head, from Mickey Mouse to the Lone Ranger to Buck Rogers, but it doesn't mean that any of them can or should take Solar's place.

VEI could go through an entire catalogue of public domain characters looking for one that is "kindda like Solar" to replace Doctor Solar with, but it would not be the same, and readers would not abide by it.

They might as well reboot the universe and replace Solar with a public domain character they could control, or even an entirely original creation... but would readers accept it? No, not really.
I don't know why people just can't accept Phil . . .

I'd be fine with it . . .

(I was just joking about the popping out of the head thing . . . )

I'd be okay with accepting Phil for the short term. In the long run it might get... boring without Solar.

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