Trinity Angels revival a joke right?

Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:35 pm

Outcast just seemed kind of out there to me. Probably just because it was something new while everything else seemed to be coming to a close.

Berdinka impressed me with his writing on Secret Weapons and it had Breyfogle with an artist.

If there's an untold story to it or about it, its likely somebody here has knoweldge of it (if anybody utside of the creative team does) and I'd be interested in hearing about.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:18 am

I didn't care for Outcast at all, I'm glad they only made one issue.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:43 am

Geomancer wrote:Outcast just seemed kind of out there to me. Probably just because it was something new while everything else seemed to be coming to a close.

Berdinka impressed me with his writing on Secret Weapons and it had Breyfogle with an artist.

If there's an untold story to it or about it, its likely somebody here has knoweldge of it (if anybody utside of the creative team does) and I'd be interested in hearing about.

All I know is that it was Berdinka's special project. I agree it had promise, but I also agree it was out there.

/Magnus

Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:23 pm

Looks like Trinity Angels has moved up to the #5 most viewed character profile here.

Hey Rich Johnston, if you are reading this - how about working in X-O or Eternal Warrior or someone like that instead into your next article.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:33 pm

Geomancer wrote:Looks like Trinity Angels has moved up to the #5 most viewed character profile here.

At least it wasn't the Goat entry (silver lining...)

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:04 pm

Also, I remember hearing speculation that Outcast was a Windjammer-like property and that if it were released after Windjammer was established it would have carried the Windjammer label.

That was just speculation.

Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:27 pm

Out of pure curiosity, I have posted a question about Outcast at Norm Breyfogle's message board and will let you know if i get a response.

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:49 pm

Geomancer wrote:Out of pure curiosity, I have posted a question about Outcast at Norm Breyfogle's message board and will let you know if i get a response.

Please let us know if he responds.

I am rather curious.

Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:46 pm

Norm Breyfogle did take the time to respond to my question.

I'm sorry, but I really have no other info to impart. I don't know where The Outcast was to fit into the Valiant universe, and for that matter, I don't even know why it didn't go forward past that one special issue.

The folks to ask would be the Valiant publishers.

I do know that the sales response to the introduction of new creators to the Valiant universe (which included my few issues of Bloodshot) wasn't great enough to continue with the new creators (Neal Adams - with his female vampire title - was among those creators; that was, in fact the first time I ever met Neal). We were all flown out to a press event in NYC and we thought it was going to be a longer association, but I assume the comics implosion at the time killed it.

So far, I have been unable to locate a means of contacting Jesse Berdinka, but if I do, I will try again.

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:00 pm

It's good that he took the time to respond.

Maybe if we asked about some of his Bravura stuff it might elicit more of a response...

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:35 pm

Geomancer wrote:Norm Breyfogle did take the time to respond to my question.

I'm sorry, but I really have no other info to impart. I don't know where The Outcast was to fit into the Valiant universe, and for that matter, I don't even know why it didn't go forward past that one special issue.

The folks to ask would be the Valiant publishers.

I do know that the sales response to the introduction of new creators to the Valiant universe (which included my few issues of Bloodshot) wasn't great enough to continue with the new creators (Neal Adams - with his female vampire title - was among those creators; that was, in fact the first time I ever met Neal). We were all flown out to a press event in NYC and we thought it was going to be a longer association, but I assume the comics implosion at the time killed it.
So far, I have been unable to locate a means of contacting Jesse Berdinka, but if I do, I will try again.

Ask him about the cheesy tie.

http://www.geocities.com/angelo_mortall ... fogle.html

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:43 am

TA is #4

Damn you, Rich Johnson

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:20 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:TA is #4

Damn you, Rich Johnson

The coldest sore of all, ManofTheAtom.

The coldest sore of all.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:30 pm

Considering how quiet VEI has been about their plans for the future, and the unlikelihood of Rich Johnson having had access to the encyclopedia prior to the launch, what in all likelihood happened was that he saw the press release, visited the site on the same day before it was posted, saw the Trinity Angels summary and decided to make a joke by connecting it to the other "trinity" projects.

The problem isn't so much that he said it, but that he posted it with a green light.

Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:35 pm

I agree.

I think he'd posted some variation of his joke about there being more than one upcoming Trinity series in an earlier blog. I think it was when he found out Top Cow or someone like that was using the name for one of their upcoming projects in addition to the news he'd previously reported on DC's weekly Trinity series.

So browsing through here and coming across another Trinity led to further fuel for him trying to keep that running joke alive.

hopefully, all those who dropped by for a visit and checked out the Trinity Angels page didn't stop browsing there and saw some of the other characters.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:36 pm

Geomancer wrote:I agree.

I think he'd posted some variation of his joke about there being more than one upcoming Trinity series in an earlier blog. I think it was when he found out Top Cow or someone like that was using the name for one of their upcoming projects in addition to the news he'd previously reported on DC's weekly Trinity series.

So browsing through here and coming across another Trinity led to further fuel for him trying to keep that running joke alive.

hopefully, all those who dropped by for a visit and checked out the Trinity Angels page didn't stop browsing there and saw some of the other characters.

Judging by the top ten, it doesn't look like it since no other pages have gone up in space or appeared on it, while Trinity Angels came out of nowhere and reached the fourth spot.

(fourth?!?! Argh!!

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Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:41 pm

The rest of the top 4 are the main page (which had articles pointing to it recently) and then Harbinger and X-O - both of which have had or will be having a HC with new material.

So yeah, a lot of them might not have chosen to go any further than Trinity Angels.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:42 pm

Geomancer wrote:The rest of the top 4 are the main page (which had articles pointing to it recently) and then Harbinger and X-O - both of which have had or will be having a HC with new material.

So yeah, a lot of them might not have chosen to go any further than Trinity Angels.

Rai has been the perpetual #2 since the site was made, heh.

Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:42 pm

my bad.

harbinger is further down the list, and its actually Rai thats in a top 4 spot.

Interesting that Rai is there.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:43 pm

Geomancer wrote:my bad.

harbinger is further down the list, and its actually Rai thats in a top 4 spot.

Interesting that Rai is there.

Not really, heh.

Rai was the very first summary, so all the trial and error for the rest of the wiki happened in its section.

Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:43 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
Geomancer wrote:The rest of the top 4 are the main page (which had articles pointing to it recently) and then Harbinger and X-O - both of which have had or will be having a HC with new material.

So yeah, a lot of them might not have chosen to go any further than Trinity Angels.
Rai has been the perpetual #2 since the site was made, heh.

I see. (Had to log back in to post again - so there was a lag time in my follow up)

So Rai has been at #2 since the site started? Any known explanation for that?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:44 pm

Geomancer wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
Geomancer wrote:The rest of the top 4 are the main page (which had articles pointing to it recently) and then Harbinger and X-O - both of which have had or will be having a HC with new material.

So yeah, a lot of them might not have chosen to go any further than Trinity Angels.
Rai has been the perpetual #2 since the site was made, heh.
I see. (Had to log back in to post again - so there was a lag time in my follow up)

So Rai has been at #2 since the site started? Any known explanation for that?

Constant editing, lol

Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:45 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
Geomancer wrote:my bad.

harbinger is further down the list, and its actually Rai thats in a top 4 spot.

Interesting that Rai is there.
Not really, heh.

Rai was the very first summary, so all the trial and error for the rest of the wiki happened in its section.

That makes sense.

I'd do more to promote certain characters, but i'm really still waiting out more info on VEI's upcoming plans.

Squirrel · Post by **Squirrel** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:06 pm

new Trinity Angels horrid idea...some new T and A ?

I'm game

Asharad · Post by **Asharad** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:58 pm

I don't remember Trinity Angels. Was that an acclaim thing? That's when I stopped reading.