Valiant Characters Compared to other Companies Character

DarqueArcher · Post by **DarqueArcher** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:21 pm

Recently I saw an auction for some Bloodshot books and in the description it decribed Bloodshot as the "Wolverine" of the Valiant Universe. This got me to thinking how would we describe other Valiant characters to other Company characters.

Could comparisons be drawn between:
X-O to Iron Man?
Archer to Green Arrow?

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:47 pm

More like a cross between The Punisher & Wolverine.

DarqueArcher wrote:Recently I saw an auction for some Bloodshot books and in the description it decribed Bloodshot as the "Wolverine" of the Valiant Universe. This got me to thinking how would we describe other Valiant characters to other Company characters.

Could comparisons be drawn between:
X-O to Iron Man?
Archer to Green Arrow?

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:23 pm

Armstrong - Pip the Troll

Bloodshot - Punisher definitely

Th Bloodshot one is the only one that jumps out. I think that's what I like about the Valiant characters. They don't really reference much of anything. They kind of stand on their own.

DarqueArcher · Post by **DarqueArcher** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:29 pm

Tim Petty wrote:Armstrong - Pip the Troll

Bloodshot - Punisher definitely

Th Bloodshot one is the only one that jumps out. I think that's what I like about the Valiant characters. They don't really reference much of anything. They kind of stand on their own.

Yeah I agree, I agree with moonchild that Bloodshot is more like a cross between Punisher and Wolverine.

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:33 pm

Ninjak was the Valiant Batman.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:36 pm

Tim Petty wrote:Bloodshot - Punisher definitely

Well, Uzzi the clown was the Punisher--same origin, same "costume," etc.

Compared to Bloodshot, the Punisher is a clown.

That's what made Valiant so cool. Their characters were pretty unique. The Punshier was all about retribution; Bloodshot was all about redemption. Internally, he was more Peter Parker (redemption of past wrongs) combined with Ben Grimm (self-loathing and self-consciousness about his transformed appearance) than Frank Castle.

Bloodshot was so much more than a guy with a gun. I don't read "guys with guns" funnybooks, but for the Bloodshot runs.

BoH

Just one fanatic's opinion.

user1463 · Post by **user1463** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:56 pm

DarqueArcher wrote:X-O to Iron Man?

The pre-unity X-O struck me as a cross between Hulk and Iron Man.

Of course, Harada and his Eggbreakers are very similar to Professor X and his X-Men.

Solar reminded me of Reed Richards a lot.

The Harbinger · Post by **The Harbinger** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:11 pm

Solar struck me as an Adam Warlock back in the Infinity days

Mothergod seems like the Anti-Monitor also

thePike · Post by **thePike** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:18 pm

The current Wolverine: Origins series just screams of a marvel rip-off of Eternal Warrior (maybe not as far back in history, but definitely in that "our character has played a part in historical ways" type of way).

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:37 am

Valiant needed an underwater guy.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:44 am

Chiclo wrote:Valiant needed an underwater guy.

I remember someone talking about a list like this found in the Valiant offices. And I think there was some talk about an underwater guy also.

/Magnus

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:02 am

magnusr wrote:
Chiclo wrote:Valiant needed an underwater guy.
I remember someone talking about a list like this found in the Valiant offices. And I think there was some talk about an underwater guy also.

/Magnus

I remember the post you are talking about . . .

Like they made a list of Marvel and DC big heroes and had the Valiant character that best filled that spot . .

If I remember correctly I thought they decided against an underwater guy, like they didn't want an aquaman . . .

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:10 am

magnusr wrote:
Chiclo wrote:Valiant needed an underwater guy.
I remember someone talking about a list like this found in the Valiant offices. And I think there was some talk about an underwater guy also.

/Magnus

You saw through my ruse.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:39 am

Chiclo wrote:
magnusr wrote:
Chiclo wrote:Valiant needed an underwater guy.
I remember someone talking about a list like this found in the Valiant offices. And I think there was some talk about an underwater guy also.

/Magnus
You saw through my ruse.

Your cunning attempt to trick him . . .

Spagg · Post by **Spagg** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:32 pm

thePike wrote:The current Wolverine: Origins series just screams of a marvel rip-off of Eternal Warrior (maybe not as far back in history, but definitely in that "our character has played a part in historical ways" type of way).

I never thought of that, but your absolutely right.

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:54 pm

Archer as Green arrow? Will have to check out some green arrow issues.
Any run you would recommend?

What

What.

Oh my if i get into green arrow, and want to collect his universe ~ I don't thing a lifetime would be enought. Foreget I said anything

Seriously ~ green arrow is a good comparision cause I might pick up a trade ?

myron · Post by **myron** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:04 pm

Phantom wrote:Archer as Green arrow? Will have to check out some green arrow issues.
Any run you would recommend?

What

What.

Oh my if i get into green arrow, and want to collect his universe ~ I don't thing a lifetime would be enought. Foreget I said anything

Seriously ~ green arrow is a good comparision cause I might pick up a trade ?

you know, I've been thinking about that statement this entire thread. I used to really like Green Arrow...never in a million years would I have compared Archer to GA...outside of them both using some form of bow/arrow I fail to see any comparison at all...I've always thought of GA as a poorman's batman...with some comic relief thrown in...

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