Ultimate Galactus

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:22 pm

Are these 3 mini-series' worth reading?

Fanboy375 · Post by **Fanboy375** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:24 pm

One word "No"

Did you like galactus in the FF2 movie? If you did you might like the series.

Jonathan

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:35 pm

depends on how ult vision finishes out but the first 3 bit

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:59 pm

Thanks for the input. I'll pass on these.

JohnnyRnR · Post by **JohnnyRnR** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:01 pm

As a big fan of both Galactus and Warren Ellis, I still consider these a waste of money and space.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:16 am

Maybe I am in the minority but I thought these books were excellent. My first foray into the Ultimate Universe and I was pleasantly surprised.

Is anyone here really advocating a 100 foot man in a giant purple outfit over the Ultimate version of Galactus? In fact these stories is exactly what got me hyped (and ultimately disappointed) for FF2

http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14976

ferdelance · Post by **ferdelance** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:14 am

How tall is Galactus ?

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:10 am

ferdelance wrote:How tall is Galactus ?

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Galactus

according to marvel, 28 feet or so.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:45 am

MProyas wrote:Maybe I am in the minority but I thought these books were excellent. My first foray into the Ultimate Universe and I was pleasantly surprised.

Is anyone here really advocating a 100 foot man in a giant purple outfit over the Ultimate version of Galactus? In fact these stories is exactly what got me hyped (and ultimately disappointed) for FF2

http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14976

Thanks for the link.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:51 pm

MProyas wrote:Maybe I am in the minority but I thought these books were excellent. My first foray into the Ultimate Universe and I was pleasantly surprised.

Is anyone here really advocating a 100 foot man in a giant purple outfit over the Ultimate version of Galactus? In fact these stories is exactly what got me hyped (and ultimately disappointed) for FF2

http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14976

Scared to ask, but what is the "Ultimate" version of Galactus and why is it better than the Lee/Kirby version?

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:09 am

Todd Luck wrote:
MProyas wrote:Maybe I am in the minority but I thought these books were excellent. My first foray into the Ultimate Universe and I was pleasantly surprised.

Is anyone here really advocating a 100 foot man in a giant purple outfit over the Ultimate version of Galactus? In fact these stories is exactly what got me hyped (and ultimately disappointed) for FF2

http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14976
Scared to ask, but what is the "Ultimate" version of Galactus and why is it better than the Lee/Kirby version?

I read this on Wikipedia.

He's not so much a really cool big arrogant humanoid force of nature as he is a plague of bugs.

And to think, people disagree when slym talks about how the Ultimate universe sucks.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:51 am

Chiclo wrote:
Todd Luck wrote:
MProyas wrote:Maybe I am in the minority but I thought these books were excellent. My first foray into the Ultimate Universe and I was pleasantly surprised.

Is anyone here really advocating a 100 foot man in a giant purple outfit over the Ultimate version of Galactus? In fact these stories is exactly what got me hyped (and ultimately disappointed) for FF2

http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14976
Scared to ask, but what is the "Ultimate" version of Galactus and why is it better than the Lee/Kirby version?
I read this on Wikipedia.

He's not so much a really cool big arrogant humanoid force of nature as he is a plague of bugs.

And to think, people disagree when slym talks about how the Ultimate universe sucks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactus#_note-56

Ultimate Galactus, called Gah Lak Tus, was introduced in a trilogy written by Warren Ellis. Gah Lak Tus is first mentioned by Ultimate Vision, an early-warning system for worlds under threat by Gah Lak Tus, an immense (approx. 100,000 miles long) group mind of city-sized robotic drones that attacks worlds using envoys (resembling the Silver Surfer) followed by a flesh-eating virus that destroys all life. After this the entity breaks open the dying world and sucks all thermal energy from the core. Gah Lak Tus considers all forms and expressions of organic life to be so abhorrent it believed itself desecrated when telepathically contacted by Professor X. It was eventually driven back thanks to Mister Fantastic via his use of the Ultimate Nullifier- here a weapon that tapped into the energies released by the Big Bang of a young universe-, destroying 20% of Gah Lak Tus's mass and convincing the drones to fall back, as the energy gained from devouring Earth wouldn't make up for the damage it would sustain.

Not sure how this even resembles Galactus other than the fact that the swarm destroys worlds and there's a weapon called the Ultimate Nullifier that scares the swarm off (funny how the Utlimate Utlimate Nullifier is so much weaker than the real thing).

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:17 pm

If you read more on the explanation of Galactus, his appearance is dependant on the viewer. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense or writers have just never bothered to utilize this option.

Physical appearance
Although Galactus is usually illustrated as a giant, armoured humanoid, each species perceives Galactus in a form resembling its own. As a being who is both an abstract entity (e.g. Death, Eternity, et al) and a physical creature, Galactus' true form and nature are beyond the capability of mortal beings to comprehend. He has, however, adopted the appearance of a roughly humanoid energy being on at least three occasions.

Ultimate Galactus, called Gah Lak Tus, was introduced in a trilogy written by Warren Ellis. Gah Lak Tus is first mentioned by Ultimate Vision, an early-warning system for worlds under threat by Gah Lak Tus, an immense (approx. 100,000 miles long) group mind of city-sized robotic drones that attacks worlds using envoys (resembling the Silver Surfer) followed by a flesh-eating virus that destroys all life. After this the entity breaks open the dying world and sucks all thermal energy from the core. Gah Lak Tus considers all forms and expressions of organic life to be so abhorrent it believed itself desecrated when telepathically contacted by Professor X. It was eventually driven back thanks to Mister Fantastic via his use of the Ultimate Nullifier- here a weapon that tapped into the energies released by the Big Bang of a young universe-, destroying 20% of Gah Lak Tus's mass and convincing the drones to fall back, as the energy gained from devouring Earth wouldn't make up for the damage it would sustain.

What is more realistic, a swarm of robots with a singular collective much like the Borg or a gigantic humanoid god-like creature?

I guess I just prefer my comics to have less giants with odd shaped purple buckets on their head. That goes for you too, Magneto.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:38 pm

MProyas wrote:If you read more on the explanation of Galactus, his appearance is dependant on the viewer. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense or writers have just never bothered to utilize this option.

I have the issue that established it back in the 80's. Byrne threw it in there to establish how vast, god-like and ominious Galactus is. He was always building up Galactus as this big cosmic force. It was never used much, it never mattered. He only looked different to completely alien cultures and his appearance has no effect on much of anything. Most fans like the classic Kirby design anyway.

BTW, the same trick has been used a million times in comics since then (maybe before then too). The "every culture sees them different" thing is true of Sandman, angels and some other mytholigical beings in the DC Universe.

MProyas wrote:What is more realistic, a swarm of robots with a singular collective much like the Borg or a gigantic humanoid god-like creature?.

Niether? LOL

MProyas wrote:I guess I just prefer my comics to have less giants with odd shaped purple buckets on their head. That goes for you too, Magneto.

Sigh, you kids today...

JohnnyRnR · Post by **JohnnyRnR** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:31 am

There are a few books that show his appearance as different relative to the viewer, Stormbringer, the Beta Ray Bill miniseries is one of the more recent ones.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:52 pm

Todd Luck wrote:
MProyas wrote:If you read more on the explanation of Galactus, his appearance is dependant on the viewer. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense or writers have just never bothered to utilize this option.
I have the issue that established it back in the 80's. Byrne threw it in there to establish how vast, god-like and ominious Galactus is. He was always building up Galactus as this big cosmic force. It was never used much, it never mattered. He only looked different to completely alien cultures and his appearance has no effect on much of anything. Most fans like the classic Kirby design anyway.

BTW, the same trick has been used a million times in comics since then (maybe before then too). The "every culture sees them different" thing is true of Sandman, angels and some other mytholigical beings in the DC Universe.

MProyas wrote:What is more realistic, a swarm of robots with a singular collective much like the Borg or a gigantic humanoid god-like creature?.
Niether? LOL

MProyas wrote:I guess I just prefer my comics to have less giants with odd shaped purple buckets on their head. That goes for you too, Magneto.
Sigh, you kids today...

heh, I tend to think a swarm of robots with a singualar collective working together is more believable than a gigantic god-like thing that takes on different forms depending on its perciever. Then again I was a fan of Bloodshot and his nanites.

just how old do you believe I am....waitaminute don't answer that.

on topic again when I read the story, it reminded me of all the things I loved about Marvel and a few of the things I loved about Valiant. I found it a modern, realistic portrayal of these characters without the right amount of sarcastic humour at times.

I need to pick up the sequel to it still.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:17 pm

ferdelance wrote:How tall is Galactus ?

You might as well ask "how long is a song?"

Or, how "high are the stars?"

Galactus is.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:20 pm

Dr. Solar wrote: Or, how "high are the stars?"

That depends on the quality of the source material....

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:49 pm

MProyas wrote:
Todd Luck wrote:
MProyas wrote:If you read more on the explanation of Galactus, his appearance is dependant on the viewer. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense or writers have just never bothered to utilize this option.
I have the issue that established it back in the 80's. Byrne threw it in there to establish how vast, god-like and ominious Galactus is. He was always building up Galactus as this big cosmic force. It was never used much, it never mattered. He only looked different to completely alien cultures and his appearance has no effect on much of anything. Most fans like the classic Kirby design anyway.

BTW, the same trick has been used a million times in comics since then (maybe before then too). The "every culture sees them different" thing is true of Sandman, angels and some other mytholigical beings in the DC Universe.

MProyas wrote:What is more realistic, a swarm of robots with a singular collective much like the Borg or a gigantic humanoid god-like creature?.
Niether? LOL

MProyas wrote:I guess I just prefer my comics to have less giants with odd shaped purple buckets on their head. That goes for you too, Magneto.
Sigh, you kids today...
heh, I tend to think a swarm of robots with a singualar collective working together is more believable than a gigantic god-like thing that takes on different forms depending on its perciever. Then again I was a fan of Bloodshot and his nanites.

just how old do you believe I am....waitaminute don't answer that.

on topic again when I read the story, it reminded me of all the things I loved about Marvel and a few of the things I loved about Valiant. I found it a modern, realistic portrayal of these characters without the right amount of sarcastic humour at times.

I need to pick up the sequel to it still.

Not resembling the real deal aside, I might enjoy the story . The cosmic swarm that devours civilizations, planets, etc has been done...A LOT but it can make a good story if written well. I enjoyed it in the first Annihalition epic.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:55 pm

I broke down and bought the hardcover trilogy from Books-a-million. It was better than I expected. Nightmare was definitely the best written of the three series. Secret and Extinction weren't bad but the final 2 issues of Extinction should have been expanded into their own 4-5 issues series instead of the hurried ending that was used. Overall, it was worth the read.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:57 pm

One thing I noticed was the obvious skewing toward a younger reader as suggested by the teenage Ultimate version of the Fantastic Four.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:10 am

BTW, is there anything considered a must read featuring Galactus that has been published since Secret Wars?.......(not including the Infinity story arcs).

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:18 am

Second_Death wrote:BTW, is there anything considered a must read featuring Galactus that has been published since Secret Wars?.......

Most definitely.

Second_Death wrote:(not including the Infinity story arcs).

Oh. Uh... Annihilation was really good. I managed to snag two issues of Silver Surfer Requiem, and they were both profound.

The Thanos 12 issue series was really good, and Galactus was a big character in the first story arc, issues 1 to 6, and appeared again in issue 12 (maybe 11 too).

I want to say the Cosmic Powers mini-series too, but I don't think he appears directly in that. Terrax was in that pretty prominently and Tyrant, a forgotten (in more than one way) creation of Galactus'.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:36 am

The Thanos series sounds interesting. Thanks for the suggestion.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:06 pm

Okay so they trade in Galactus, one of the most unique and powerful cosmic characters of all time, for the old intergalactic play on the plague of locusts that I've read a dozen times.

But then I found some things on the net that made that pale in comparison. Ultimate Dr. Doom was orginally part of a government think tank and got transformed in the same accident that transformed the Fantastic Four turning him into a metal man with goat hooves (apparently the movies took some inspiration from this).

And Ultimate Cable? He's actually Wolverine from the future.

No, I'm not kidding.