Shadowman #43

[Cyberstrike]

Simple. In one outcome of timelines fracturing with continuous time travel (and therefore paradox) events occured as depicted. In another they may not have.

Then how do you explain Ivar, the Timewalker?

In his first issue we saw how he set up something in his future that he was unaware of in his present.

In issue 15 we saw him arrive after a man died then at the end of the issue we discovered that he killed him.

In Magnus 33 we saw Ivar arrive in the future after leaving the present in Archer & Armstrogn 12.

How do you explain the Blood of Heroes in Rai, where we saw that Ax had indeed killed Bloodshot as told in Rai 0?

There's too many connections between the present and the future for anyone to say that Magnus takes place in a different reality.

In Unity we saw Magnus, Rai, and Gilad walk into the Lost Land from the future and meeting the present day heroes there.

If alternate realities played a part in this, why would Erica target one Rai, why not all of them across creation like VH 2 Darque did with Jack in U2K?

And that's the rub.

VH 2 accepted alternate realities and that resulted in U2K.

Do we really want VEI to go in the same direction?

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

We already saw what a mistake having alternate VALIANT realities was... why do it again?

In the dim hope that this time they'll do it right?

Why risk it?

Let DC drown itself in its 52 alternate realities, there's no sin in letting VALIANT having just the one and focusing on character over gimmick. Let VEI focus on substance over style.

We don't need a VALIANT multiverse.

A VALIANT multiverse leads to a multiverse creature like the one in U2K.

The multiverse creature leads to anger

Anger leads to suffering.

Listen to Yoda if you won't listen to me.

Why would MotherGod want to destroy the (multi)uiverse in Unity she said was trying to fix the problem that Solar created, (i.e. a multiverse). Simply put VH-1 was an alternate timeline and if one exists
than so does others including: The Deathmate Universe and VH-2, The Lost Land and the place it existed in, and X-O Manowar/Iron Man universe.

[ManofTheAtom]

Why would MotherGod want to destroy the (multi)uiverse in Unity she said was trying to fix the problem that Solar created, (i.e. a multiverse). Simply put VH-1 was an alternate timeline and if one exists than so does others including: The Deathmate Universe and VH-2, The Lost Land and the place it existed in, and X-O Manowar/Iron Man universe.

That's one interpretation.

Maybe what MotherGod wanted to fix was that Phil stopped the universe from being destroyed when he went back in time.

She was delusional. Never forget that villains have a skewed view of the world.

Maybe for Erica the right path was to let all existance end as it did when Phil destroyed the universe at the end of A&O.

That plus she wanted to punish her father.

[slym2none]

Simply put VH-1 was an alternate timeline and if one exists than so does others including: The Deathmate Universe and VH-2, The Lost Land and the place it existed in, and X-O Manowar/Iron Man universe.

Ooh! Ooh! (my best Horshack imitation) - WAS the Lost Land accesable to the VH2 and -3 realities? In other words, since it exists outside of time, it wasn't part of just the VH1 reality, but potentially, part of all of them?





-slym

[ManofTheAtom]

Simply put VH-1 was an alternate timeline and if one exists than so does others including: The Deathmate Universe and VH-2, The Lost Land and the place it existed in, and X-O Manowar/Iron Man universe.

Ooh! Ooh! (my best Horshack imitation) - WAS the Lost Land accesable to the VH2 and -3 realities? In other words, since it exists outside of time, it wasn't part of just the VH1 reality, but potentially, part of all of them?





-slym

Sadly the answer is yes.

As seen in U2K, the Lost Land VH 2 Master D'arque and his sister Sandria traveled to through magic is the same one Jack Boniface accessed on foot from the 41st Century.

[slym2none]

...yes.

As seen in U2K, the Lost Land VH 2 Master D'arque and his sister Sandria traveled to through magic is the same one Jack Boniface accessed on foot from the 41st Century.

-slym

[yardstick]

Simply put VH-1 was an alternate timeline and if one exists than so does others including: The Deathmate Universe and VH-2, The Lost Land and the place it existed in, and X-O Manowar/Iron Man universe.

Ooh! Ooh! (my best Horshack imitation) - WAS the Lost Land accesable to the VH2 and -3 realities? In other words, since it exists outside of time, it wasn't part of just the VH1 reality, but potentially, part of all of them?





-slym

If so, then this would be an easy way for VEI to explain away the Layton VH1 (L-VH1) and the Accliam VH2 (A-VH2)...