HARBINGER: THE BEGINNING, more details for fans! 5/28-5/31

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:58 pm

True. But the both offer the same protection if one is being sued.

BrianT · Post by **BrianT** » Thu May 31, 2007 8:28 pm

jedimarley wrote:True. But the both offer the same protection if one is being sued.

Right. Sorry. I wasn't correcting you, just expanding on your point.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:06 pm

Just now getting caught up on everything... Wow. Wow. Shooter & Hall. A freakin' NEW VALIANT story!! Wow.

For those interested, MailOrderComics.com is selling it for $18.71 (plus shipping) for those of us without an LCS.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:10 pm

Heath wrote:Just now getting caught up on everything... Wow. Wow. Shooter & Hall. A freakin' NEW Valiant story!! Wow.

For those interested, MailOrderComics.com is selling it for $18.71 (plus shipping) for those of us without an LCS.

hey.... so I guess you DO know about it....

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:16 pm

I informed my LCS that I would be ordering 3 copies of it...Another Comic buyer that gets pretty much anything that comes out also said that he would like 2 of them for the new Shooter story.

So with this many being ordered right off the bat the owner said he will order 10 of them to start with

-Brian

BrianT · Post by **BrianT** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:37 pm

Todd Luck wrote:
dellamorte wrote:This is all great news. Shooter and Hall now that is a Valiant dream team. Bob Hall just did a piece of art for me and I tell you all now that the man is at the top of his game. This is going to be something special.

I'd be interested to hear from a source in the know if the new story is in fact separate from the hc or included. I know MOTA broke it down but those numbers could be off if they don't give each cover it's own page, maybe it's all eight spread over two pages or they don't have two pages for credits. The only thing Greg's post states is that the new story will have it's own cover but we don't know if that cover is printed in the book and we don't know how long this new story is.

Regardless I'm getting a bit excited about this.
Could be an insert (it does have it's own cover) that's 8-22 pages. It could be in the hardcover and be less than 10 pages, "cover" and all, since that's a fairly average length for an original extra of this sort. Regardless, 25 bucks just for that is too much for me (and I'd imagine for most folks). I can only rebuy the same material so many times.

Like I said, I hope VEI goes the route of Dark Horse and puts it online.

Given that it already has its own cover, we could be looking at an eventual solo release of just the "Origin of Harada" story or as part of a future FCBD offering.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Thu May 31, 2007 11:00 pm

Todd Luck wrote:
dellamorte wrote:This is all great news. Shooter and Hall now that is a Valiant dream team. Bob Hall just did a piece of art for me and I tell you all now that the man is at the top of his game. This is going to be something special.

I'd be interested to hear from a source in the know if the new story is in fact separate from the hc or included. I know MOTA broke it down but those numbers could be off if they don't give each cover it's own page, maybe it's all eight spread over two pages or they don't have two pages for credits. The only thing Greg's post states is that the new story will have it's own cover but we don't know if that cover is printed in the book and we don't know how long this new story is.

Regardless I'm getting a bit excited about this.
Could be an insert (it does have it's own cover) that's 8-22 pages. It could be in the hardcover and be less than 10 pages, "cover" and all, since that's a fairly average length for an original extra of this sort. Regardless, 25 bucks just for that is too much for me (and I'd imagine for most folks). I can only rebuy the same material so many times.

Like I said, I hope VEI goes the route of Dark Horse and puts it online.

Todd I respect your view on this being it's only a slight upgrade in quality and an 8 page NEW story I do feel like your in minority at least in my view...

-Brian

Chuck · Post by **Chuck** » Thu May 31, 2007 11:10 pm

It's funny ever since I stopped collecting comics (Marvel and DC) now I can afford anything I want these days

(I was spending about $100+ a month on comics

)

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:08 am

Ryan wrote:It was expanded to 128 pages so that would be a nice HC for new and old fans alike. I just wonder if Valiant Ent. has access to the unpublished material.

I've seen one of those pages on the open market, so probably at least that page is away from the company's access.

/Magnus

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:25 am

magnusr wrote:
Ryan wrote:It was expanded to 128 pages so that would be a nice HC for new and old fans alike. I just wonder if Valiant Ent. has access to the unpublished material.
I've seen one of those pages on the open market, so probably at least that page is away from the company's access.

/Magnus

How much will we get from Jim Shooter, and how much is from his memory
or (even better) from a refined, optimized, stratified, polished version
of what Valiant could have been?

If you asked me to tell you a story in 1992, I would have.
If you asked me to think about that story from 1992 for fifteen years,
I'd probably have a better one to tell in 2007.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:50 am

greg wrote:
magnusr wrote:
Ryan wrote:It was expanded to 128 pages so that would be a nice HC for new and old fans alike. I just wonder if Valiant Ent. has access to the unpublished material.
I've seen one of those pages on the open market, so probably at least that page is away from the company's access.

/Magnus
How much will we get from Jim Shooter, and how much is from his memory
or (even better) from a refined, optimized, stratified, polished version
of what Valiant could have been?

If you asked me to tell you a story in 1992, I would have.
If you asked me to think about that story from 1992 for fifteen years,
I'd probably have a better one to tell in 2007.

Good point Greg...

Well... unless you are .... this guy

Then maybe the story would have been better in 1992.

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:52 am

Elveen wrote:
greg wrote:
magnusr wrote:
Ryan wrote:It was expanded to 128 pages so that would be a nice HC for new and old fans alike. I just wonder if Valiant Ent. has access to the unpublished material.
I've seen one of those pages on the open market, so probably at least that page is away from the company's access.

/Magnus
How much will we get from Jim Shooter, and how much is from his memory
or (even better) from a refined, optimized, stratified, polished version
of what Valiant could have been?

If you asked me to tell you a story in 1992, I would have.
If you asked me to think about that story from 1992 for fifteen years,
I'd probably have a better one to tell in 2007.

Good point Greg...

Well... unless you are .... this guy

Then maybe the story would have been better in 1992.

I think that may be the worst picture of Richards that I have ever seen. Why wear makeup when it will make your face look gouged.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:55 am

ThrillKillWill wrote:
Elveen wrote:
greg wrote:
magnusr wrote:
Ryan wrote:It was expanded to 128 pages so that would be a nice HC for new and old fans alike. I just wonder if Valiant Ent. has access to the unpublished material.
I've seen one of those pages on the open market, so probably at least that page is away from the company's access.

/Magnus
How much will we get from Jim Shooter, and how much is from his memory
or (even better) from a refined, optimized, stratified, polished version
of what Valiant could have been?

If you asked me to tell you a story in 1992, I would have.
If you asked me to think about that story from 1992 for fifteen years,
I'd probably have a better one to tell in 2007.

Good point Greg...

Well... unless you are .... this guy

Then maybe the story would have been better in 1992.
I think that may be the worst picture of Richards that I have ever seen. Why wear makeup when it will make your face look gouged.

That's Kramer!

... (slides back on his feet....... pops his head up, and points out to the right....) "Whoa!"

schi0249 · Post by **schi0249** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:18 am

Someone forgot to tell him he only had to look like that while shooting Pirates 3.

The Mighty Drew · Post by **The Mighty Drew** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:39 am

Saw the add in the previews today. I may have to start checking out these boards again.

By the way, hi everyone.

Ian Sokoliwski · Post by **Ian Sokoliwski** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:44 am

I'm looking forward to this

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:38 am

Brian Thomer wrote:
jedimarley wrote:True. But the both offer the same protection if one is being sued.
Right. Sorry. I wasn't correcting you, just expanding on your point.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:31 am

The Mighty Drew wrote:Saw the add in the previews today. I may have to start checking out these boards again.

By the way, hi everyone.

Hi right back at you!

Ordered 2 copies at my LCS. Roll on the end of August...

myron · Post by **myron** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:43 am

found out one of my former students works at a CS (the one in Oconomowoc)...he already put an order in for me...

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:44 am

myron wrote:found out one of my former students works at a CS (the one in Oconomowoc)...he already put an order in for me...

The true power of education!

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:22 pm

betterthanezra wrote:
k_c_collectibles wrote:Greg,

Any idea who the inker and colorists are?

Chris
Don't be suprised if Bob Hall inks this himself...

Like he did with Armed & Dangerous...

-Brian

Yeah I'm quoting myself because Bob Hall isn't inking his pencils for the new story for those who wanted to know....

-Brian

myron · Post by **myron** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:56 pm

betterthanezra wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
k_c_collectibles wrote:Greg,

Any idea who the inker and colorists are?

Chris
Don't be suprised if Bob Hall inks this himself...

Like he did with Armed & Dangerous...

-Brian
Yeah I'm quoting myself because Bob Hall isn't inking his pencils for the new story for those who wanted to know....

-Brian

who do you think...Layton?

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:00 pm

myron wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
k_c_collectibles wrote:Greg,

Any idea who the inker and colorists are?

Chris
Don't be suprised if Bob Hall inks this himself...

Like he did with Armed & Dangerous...

-Brian
Yeah I'm quoting myself because Bob Hall isn't inking his pencils for the new story for those who wanted to know....

-Brian
who do you think...Layton?

No it's Not Layton....I'm not sure i can really say who is inking it yet....It's NOT Tom Ryder

-Brian

-Brian

myron · Post by **myron** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:02 pm

betterthanezra wrote:
myron wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
k_c_collectibles wrote:Greg,

Any idea who the inker and colorists are?

Chris
Don't be suprised if Bob Hall inks this himself...

Like he did with Armed & Dangerous...

-Brian
Yeah I'm quoting myself because Bob Hall isn't inking his pencils for the new story for those who wanted to know....

-Brian
who do you think...Layton?
No it's Not Layton....I'm not sure i can really say who is inking it yet....It's NOT Tom Ryder

-Brian

-Brian

someone who's inked Bob in the past?

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:06 pm

myron wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
myron wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
k_c_collectibles wrote:Greg,

Any idea who the inker and colorists are?

Chris
Don't be suprised if Bob Hall inks this himself...

Like he did with Armed & Dangerous...

-Brian
Yeah I'm quoting myself because Bob Hall isn't inking his pencils for the new story for those who wanted to know....

-Brian
who do you think...Layton?
No it's Not Layton....I'm not sure i can really say who is inking it yet....It's NOT Tom Ryder

-Brian

-Brian
someone who's inked Bob in the past?

I can't really see a reason to keep the inker on this a mystery...

We already know who's penciling it...

The inker on this is Joe Rubinstein...his last work on a Valiant book Unity 2000

-Brian