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as to how many members here think they have some high grade pre-unity/ variant Valiants that could be sent into CGC but just aren't goint to for whatever reason.

Magnus brings up an interesting point...

How many of you seriously think you don't own one HG valiant worth sending in to cgc?

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Ricomortis wrote:as to how many members here think they have some high grade pre-unity/ variant Valiants that could be sent into CGC but just aren't goint to for whatever reason.

Magnus brings up an interesting point...

How many of you seriously think you don't own one HG valiant worth sending in to cgc?

Curiousity killed the mortis and I'm on my eighth life. :P

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My personal collection is teeming with high-grade examples of virtually every pre-unity and Valiant variant. I already know they're high grade, I don't need CGC to confirm what I already know for $15 a pop...

Here's one of the few that I graded but haven't sold:


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Ricomortis wrote:as to how many members here think they have some high grade pre-unity/ variant Valiants that could be sent into CGC but just aren't goint to for whatever reason.

Magnus brings up an interesting point...

How many of you seriously think you don't own one HG valiant worth sending in to cgc?

Curiousity killed the mortis and I'm on my eighth life. :P

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Interesting question Rico.....I was planning on submitting some Valiant/accliam books to CGC when I was in SDCC....I changed my mind.

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Ricomortis wrote:as to how many members here think they have some high grade pre-unity/ variant Valiants that could be sent into CGC but just aren't goint to for whatever reason.

Magnus brings up an interesting point...

How many of you seriously think you don't own one HG valiant worth sending in to cgc?

Curiousity killed the mortis and I'm on my eighth life. :P

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jedimarley wrote:
Ricomortis wrote:as to how many members here think they have some high grade pre-unity/ variant Valiants that could be sent into CGC but just aren't goint to for whatever reason.

Magnus brings up an interesting point...

How many of you seriously think you don't own one HG valiant worth sending in to cgc?

Curiousity killed the mortis and I'm on my eighth life. :P

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To me it is a safty issue. Are they going to get there safe and when they get there, are they going to be handled properly.
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Take it from me Marley...you can trust them with your comics :wink:

I did with mine 8-) and think of how many HG Golden Age and Silver Age books have been slabbed in the past 6 years :thumb:

Nic Cage didn't seem to have a problem sending in his $2 Million dollar collection for grading :roll:

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I have a few random copies I'm sure would hit at least 9.4, and I have two really cherry copies of Rai #0, 9.8 to 9.9 possibly, but I am content to think that my grade is good enough. Only if I were going to sell these would I think about grading them, and that's not gonna happen.

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I only have 1 CGC book, a Harbinger #0 Pink 9.4 I bought for $19.99 I had to rescue it!

I have a few thousand books I would like to submit, maybe next year

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Peter Parker wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
Ricomortis wrote:as to how many members here think they have some high grade pre-unity/ variant Valiants that could be sent into CGC but just aren't goint to for whatever reason.

Magnus brings up an interesting point...

How many of you seriously think you don't own one HG valiant worth sending in to cgc?

Curiousity killed the mortis and I'm on my eighth life. :P

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To me it is a safty issue. Are they going to get there safe and when they get there, are they going to be handled properly.
I just don't trust anyone with my comics.
Take it from me Marley...you can trust them with your comics :wink:

I did with mine 8-) and think of how many HG Golden Age and Silver Age books have been slabbed in the past 6 years :thumb:

Nic Cage didn't seem to have a problem sending in his $2 Million dollar collection for grading :roll:

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I don't trust the mail.
lol...

I think that is why CGC tells you to package them the best you can. Also Jedi that is why they make you send it registered with insurance. Not sure if you know this but if it is registered the comics can NOT be tampered with without tearing into the seals. Also, the postal service puts your package under lock and key EVERYNIGHT until it arrives at its destination.

Back on Topic...

I have sent maybe 12-15 submissions with 6 valiants each time. Zilch problems.

I still have about 40 nm/m valiants to send in and a short box full of nm+ pre-unities that I am not sure I am sending in or not.

I also have tons of nm and little nm- and vf/nm that obviously won't be sent in. :thumb:

The wait right now is less than 2 months. They alway get behind in the beginning and middle of the year due to events and REALLY catch up latter part of the year.

I send them in about once a month so I am at least getting something for x-mas every month. :P

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mrwoogieman wrote:
Ricomortis wrote:as to how many members here think they have some high grade pre-unity/ variant Valiants that could be sent into CGC but just aren't goint to for whatever reason.

Magnus brings up an interesting point...

How many of you seriously think you don't own one HG valiant worth sending in to cgc?

Curiousity killed the mortis and I'm on my eighth life. :P

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My personal collection is teeming with high-grade examples of virtually every pre-unity and Valiant variant. I already know they're high grade, I don't need CGC to confirm what I already know for $15 a pop...

Here's one of the few that I graded but haven't sold:


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Woo..

Allow me to take that off your hands. :hope: You know that you have to resubmit every 7 years, they take up a ton of space and are REALLY heavy. :lol:

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Ricomortis wrote:How many of you seriously think you don't own one HG valiant worth sending in to cgc?
I think the biggest thing holding me back from submitting them is that I haven't done so in the past and would be really disheartened if what I thought was a 9.6+ came back much lower than expected. For the time being I'm happy to let people who know what to look for send in copies and buy those copies if I can get them at a decent price. I also buy a lot of 9.4 and under CGC books because at least slabbed they aren’t going to drop any further, and if I can get them for around the cost of grading, it saves me the time and effort of sending in my own books and being unsure of how they’d grade out.

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:lol:

Well, if you're really interested, PM me and we can discuss it further. I really wanted a 9.8 of this book so....


Ricomortis wrote:
mrwoogieman wrote:
Ricomortis wrote:as to how many members here think they have some high grade pre-unity/ variant Valiants that could be sent into CGC but just aren't goint to for whatever reason.

Magnus brings up an interesting point...

How many of you seriously think you don't own one HG valiant worth sending in to cgc?

Curiousity killed the mortis and I'm on my eighth life. :P

Rico
My personal collection is teeming with high-grade examples of virtually every pre-unity and Valiant variant. I already know they're high grade, I don't need CGC to confirm what I already know for $15 a pop...

Here's one of the few that I graded but haven't sold:


<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/ ... g"><br><br>
Woo..

Allow me to take that off your hands. :hope: You know that you have to resubmit every 7 years, they take up a ton of space and are REALLY heavy. :lol:

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One other factor that holds me back - spending priorities. When I have the extra funds to make a worthwhile submission do I slab books or buy more cool stuff to fill gaps??

Spend a $100 to slab or buy that Geomancer VVSS I've been after...

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slym2none wrote:I have a few random copies I'm sure would hit at least 9.4, and I have two really cherry copies of Rai #0, 9.8 to 9.9 possibly, but I am content to think that my grade is good enough. Only if I were going to sell these would I think about grading them, and that's not gonna happen.
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I'm with slym here (and agree with Knight's comments too). It just seems an injustice to me for comics that I care about to be encased in plastic where I couldn't even get to them! If I wanted to sell a particular book and wanted to get the most I could for it, I'd think about having it graded. Otherwise, I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know about my comics.

The only exception to that is a copy of GI Joe #1 I have. I think it would grade around 9.6 and it would make it a good display item on my GI Joe shelf.
I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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Heath wrote:
slym2none wrote:I have a few random copies I'm sure would hit at least 9.4, and I have two really cherry copies of Rai #0, 9.8 to 9.9 possibly, but I am content to think that my grade is good enough. Only if I were going to sell these would I think about grading them, and that's not gonna happen.
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I'm with slym here (and agree with Knight's comments too). It just seems an injustice to me for comics that I care about to be encased in plastic where I couldn't even get to them! If I wanted to sell a particular book and wanted to get the most I could for it, I'd think about having it graded. Otherwise, I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know about my comics.

The only exception to that is a copy of GI Joe #1 I have. I think it would grade around 9.6 and it would make it a good display item on my GI Joe shelf.
Yes.. I guess everyone has their reasons for or against. Alot of folks here and other places seem content that they have high grade books and they know it. Why would they want to pay someone to tell them?

I'll tell you why.... because alot of these people would be surprised how hard it exactly is to get a cgc 9.8 valiant. People aren't honest with themselves when they look over their own books to grade. You can ask ANYONE who submits to CGC about how you have to be TOTALLY honest or you are going to be way disappointed. :(

I have extra lower grade copies to read, re-read, etc. but the collector in me wants the best of what I consider the best of my comic collecting career.(pre-unity valiants)

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Knightt_333 wrote:
hulk181man wrote:Spend a $100 to slab or buy that Geomancer VVSS I've been after...
Got right here for CF..

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hulk181man wrote:
Knightt_333 wrote:
hulk181man wrote:Spend a $100 to slab or buy that Geomancer VVSS I've been after...
Got right here for CF..

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I've got a short box of potential 9.8's and a few Magnus 1's that I think are 9.9 or 10. Most of my Valiants I bought from local collectors here in seattle who where EXTREMELY ANAL collectors. Almost all of my #1's where still in the oriiginal 10/12 packs the way they were shipped from Diamond. From there they went into Mylites.

Once you've got a dozen or so 9.6's and 9.8's it's not tough to tell the differences between the two. The only book I've sold ungraded that got graded thought was 9.8 Unity Red came back by Boda a 9.6.

As Greg's explained a few times in the past. That 9.6's can be the verge of being a 9.8 or on the low end and nearly a 9.4. I feel good I've got a load of 9.8's ungraded but no urgency to get them slabbed atm.
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soundoftheuniverse wrote:I've got a short box of potential 9.8's and a few Magnus 1's that I think are 9.9 or 10. Most of my Valiants I bought from local collectors here in seattle who where EXTREMELY ANAL collectors. Almost all of my #1's where still in the oriiginal 10/12 packs the way they were shipped from Diamond. From there they went into Mylites.

Once you've got a dozen or so 9.6's and 9.8's it's not tough to tell the differences between the two. The only book I've sold ungraded that got graded thought was 9.8 Unity Red came back by Boda a 9.6.

As Greg's explained a few times in the past. That 9.6's can be the verge of being a 9.8 or on the low end and nearly a 9.4. I feel good I've got a load of 9.8's ungraded but no urgency to get them slabbed atm.
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I just feel comics are meant to be read and slabbing them is an injustice. Of course, I'm very careful with my comics and keep them bagged and boarded and the more valuable ones in mylites. But if I pull out one of my favorite stories and in the process of reading it I knock it down from a 9.6 to a 9.4, I don't really care. It's MINE and it always will be mine. The value to me isn't what I could sell it for - the value is completely intrinsic. A dollar amount associated with it is just a little extra icing on the cake.
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Heath wrote:I just feel comics are meant to be read and slabbing them is an injustice. Of course, I'm very careful with my comics and keep them bagged and boarded and the more valuable ones in mylites. But if I pull out one of my favorite stories and in the process of reading it I knock it down from a 9.6 to a 9.4, I don't really care. It's MINE and it always will be mine. The value to me isn't what I could sell it for - the value is completely intrinsic. A dollar amount associated with it is just a little extra icing on the cake.
And that is a perfectly legitamate way to be. If everyone was slab-happy like me no one could tell me what happend in the latest issue of any given comic. :P

Seriously, I like to read my comics but I love those 9.something CGC slabs too. 8-)
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Knightt_333 wrote:I wouldnt own a CGC book that I have not read... THAT doesnt make sense to me.
Exactly how I feel.

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Knightt_333 wrote:I wouldnt own a CGC book that I have not read... THAT doesnt make sense to me.
Exactly!

That is the REASON I get them slabbed, because they were worth (story) of being enshrined and kept for ever. :)

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