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So this is probably nothing, but earlier today Warren Twitted this...

https://twitter.com/warrensimons/status ... 6115457024" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Which is obviously from Solar.

Dinesh then sent this out...

https://twitter.com/dinesh_s/status/729449230763479040" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah it's of Lemire, but it very clearly references Magnus.

Fully possible they are just messing with us, but they know how hyper sensitive we can be over things like this. Thoughts?

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Or it could since it's from Sweden it's for super Valiant fan Magnus Ramstrom :?

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Funny you should mention it. I noticed this last night and went looking for the full Perez artwork to see if there was more detail; unfortunately couldn't find it.

So who is this?

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brucehartshorn wrote:Or it could since it's from Sweden it's for super Valiant fan Magnus Ramstrom :?
Yup, it definitely from Magnus. He posted the same pic in the sketch cover thread. :thumb:

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Beware Cyclops wrote:
brucehartshorn wrote:Or it could since it's from Sweden it's for super Valiant fan Magnus Ramstrom :?
Yup, it definitely from Magnus. He posted the same pic in the sketch cover thread. :thumb:
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Yep, I'm the very happy caretaker of that sketch cover. As for the Solar image, I have no idea what's up.

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Morrison + Dysart + Kindt cooking up the most crazy and emotional and meaningful trans-time&dimensional-universe-wide event ever created. Of course, at the end of it three lost heroes from another Valiant Dimension cross over into the VEI universe... HAHAHAHA!
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this would be one hell of a kick-off for phase 4...

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jmatt wrote:Funny you should mention it. I noticed this last night and went looking for the full Perez artwork to see if there was more detail; unfortunately couldn't find it.

So who is this?

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Left side, halfway down. Looks like he (or she) is wrapped in bandages. Not sure if the head in front (with the bandage) is connected (pun intended).

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The question that has never been answered is does VEI own phil seleski.
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Aram wrote:The question that has never been answered is does VEI own phil seleski.

The topic has come up many times in the past, but to my knowledge, we've never been able to find out if they do outright own it or if there is some kind of grey area due to the ties to Solar that were created with the original Valiant.

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Well, until someone uses Phil Seleski in media and it is brought to court by someone, no one will ever know. My guess is VEI feels like the risk is not worth the reward with that whole property, so just avoids the whole situation altogether.
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It would be awesome if Valiant got the GK3 and then published a book that sold double anything Dynamite produced using those characters.

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Ha! Dynamite

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Dr Noel wrote:Ha! Dynamite (sucks!)

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I don't see any reason why VEI wouldn't own Seleski. Solar was never the gk3 solar phil just loved that character and took on the persona due to the simularities. VEI clearly owns the other characters Eyernal Warrior and Rai an both those were debuted in Solar and Magnus issues. :?
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Aram wrote:I don't see any reason why VEI wouldn't own Seleski. Solar was never the gk3 solar phil just loved that character and took on the persona due to the simularities. VEI clearly owns the other characters Eyernal Warrior and Rai an both those were debuted in Solar and Magnus issues. :?
Eternal Warrior and Rai never called themselves "Solar"... a licensed name.

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Am I wrong in being surprised they simply didn't update the idea and give us a character named Sun Brand or something? Or would fans be outraged rather than pleased by a homage pastiche?

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Magnus was gk magnus, turok was gk turok. Phil Seleski as Solar was never GK solar..

So either VEI owns Phil.. Or they own nothing because Phil Seleski created all the Valiant universe.. :o
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Aram wrote:Magnus was gk magnus, turok was gk turok. Phil Seleski as Solar was never GK solar..

So either VEI owns Phil.. Or they own nothing because Phil Seleski created all the Valiant universe.. :o
:lol:

No, it's more complicated than that. Phil Seleski was "derivative" of the Solar copyright, owned by GK.
Derivatives aren't "all or nothing". They're "some parts this, some parts that".
Valiant certainly provided "some parts" of the Phil Seleski Solar. GK certainly provided "some parts" of the Phil Seleski Solar.

It's hard to see how either party could absolutely claim full ownership, but it's easy to see how both could claim "some parts".

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Aram wrote:Magnus was gk magnus, turok was gk turok. Phil Seleski as Solar was never GK solar..

So either VEI owns Phil.. Or they own nothing because Phil Seleski created all the Valiant universe.. :o
They definitely own the idea of Phil Seleski. It's more murky if they could claim exclusive rights to the trademark of his name. They probably do, but it GK IP owners could definitely make a good case in court and fighting that would cost money. Why bother?
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lorddunlow wrote:
Aram wrote:Magnus was gk magnus, turok was gk turok. Phil Seleski as Solar was never GK solar..

So either VEI owns Phil.. Or they own nothing because Phil Seleski created all the Valiant universe.. :o
They definitely own the idea of Phil Seleski. It's more murky if they could claim exclusive rights to the trademark of his name. They probably do, but it GK IP owners could definitely make a good case in court and fighting that would cost money. Why bother?
It's not worth a court hassle.

If someone said they have an idea for a character who is "inspired by the Superman comics he read as a child", who ends up with all of Superman's powers and costume... it wouldn't matter if his name was Notclark McNotkent. That would be a problem for DC.

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But phil seleski needs not solars exact power and certainly not his costume. VEI can simply be the alternate universe that happened sans phil seleski recreating it.
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Well the last dynamite incarnation included Phil Seleski as Solar.

And he had a daughter named Erica.
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BugsySig wrote:Well the last Dynamite (sucks!) incarnation included Phil Seleski as Solar.

And he had a daughter named Erica.
And we know Dynamite is always on the up-and-up :D
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jeremycoe wrote:
BugsySig wrote:Well the last Dynamite (sucks!) (sucks!) incarnation included Phil Seleski as Solar.

And he had a daughter named Erica.
And we know Dynamite (sucks!) is always on the up-and-up :D
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