Valiant To Create A New Female Icon For 2016

Captain Craig · Post by **Captain Craig** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:09 pm

The whole CREATE NEW line implies it's not a character already in the stable.

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:25 pm

Captain Craig wrote:The whole CREATE NEW line implies it's not a character already in the stable.

It looks like that's just what Bleeding Cool used for the article title. The article itself says

Bleeding Cool wrote:Valiant is planning a major new series in 2016 — or possibly more than one — to give their publishing line a preeminent female icon

I guess "Valiant to publish new series with female lead" isn't as good for click-bait.

krylox · Post by **krylox** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:33 pm

that's easy.

female x-o.

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:56 pm

My bet is on Livewire with GIN-GR as part of the supporting cast.

Hasmot · Post by **Hasmot** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:46 am

Please be 69, please be 69, please be 69...

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:57 am

Hasmot wrote:Please be 69, please be 69, please be 69...

-- Me, at 17 when my girlfriend said she had a surprise for me.

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:05 am

If you had to go by this image I would bet on Roku.

Brapbrap · Post by **Brapbrap** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:36 am

this character is my guess. mainly because they look quite superheroey

Hasmot · Post by **Hasmot** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:22 pm

depluto wrote:
Hasmot wrote:Please be 69, please be 69, please be 69...
-- Me, at 17 when my girlfriend said she had a surprise for me.

Hahaha. I knew my comment would get something like this. Just a Quantum and Woody Fan here is all.

Nairbe · Post by **Nairbe** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:48 pm

Shadowman99 · Post by **Shadowman99** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:49 am

depluto wrote:If you had to go by this image I would bet on Roku.

Wow, first time I've seen this image in colour - Can someone make me a name list, left-to-right? Couple of characters on there I don't recognise at all! Especially the luchadore mask guy, who's that?!

Shadowman99 · Post by **Shadowman99** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:50 am

Brapbrap wrote:
this character is my guess. mainly because they look quite superheroey

Is this 'The Savage'?!

P.S. Bloodshot looks very Ben Grimm here

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:29 am

Shadowman99 wrote:
depluto wrote:If you had to go by this image I would bet on Roku.

Wow, first time I've seen this image in colour - Can someone make me a name list, left-to-right? Couple of characters on there I don't recognise at all! Especially the luchadore mask guy, who's that?!

Luchadore mask guy is possibly a new look for Shadowman. There's an old teaser concept art image floating around of this design from back around 2012. I recently did a sketch cover commision on a Book Of Death #1 of that character...

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:48 pm

omega_override wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again, while I very much welcome "strong female character who don't need no man #2,000,437", you should not make a character a certain gender or race just for the sake of appeasing some socio-political movement

We already have Dr. Mirage and Livewire

Yes, and women are half the population. Taking everything in your post together, it seems you're saying that new characters should be men unless there's a specific reason for them not to be.

Or are you suggesting that all characters should be androgynous (i.e. not a certain gender)?

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:50 pm

depluto wrote:If you had to go by this image I would bet on Roku.

I sure hope so, as I took advantage of Ed's deal for bulk #1, and also pre-ordered a good quantity of the A cover of issue #4.

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:53 pm

Shadowman99 wrote:
depluto wrote:If you had to go by this image I would bet on Roku.
Wow, first time I've seen this image in colour - Can someone make me a name list, left-to-right? Couple of characters on there I don't recognise at all! Especially the luchadore mask guy, who's that?!

For a few of those characters, all we've ever seen in this image.

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:04 pm

kjjohanson wrote:
omega_override wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again, while I very much welcome "strong female character who don't need no man #2,000,437", you should not make a character a certain gender or race just for the sake of appeasing some socio-political movement

We already have Dr. Mirage and Livewire
Yes, and women are half the population. Taking everything in your post together, it seems you're saying that new characters should be men unless there's a specific reason for them not to be.

Or are you suggesting that all characters should be androgynous (i.e. not a certain gender)?

I'm not 100% sure what he's saying, but I would say the most important step in creating a cool new character is making sure the character is cool. If the character happens to be a latino woman - great. Should comic books be more diverse than they are - probably, but I feel it should be natural and not forced (whatever that really means). Hopefully VEI is successful with this move. They've created lots of great female characters - hopefully one can sell enough books to sustain an ongoing title.

Sven the Returned · Post by **Sven the Returned** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:47 am

kjjohanson wrote:
omega_override wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again, while I very much welcome "strong female character who don't need no man #2,000,437", you should not make a character a certain gender or race just for the sake of appeasing some socio-political movement

We already have Dr. Mirage and Livewire
Yes, and women are half the population. Taking everything in your post together, it seems you're saying that new characters should be men unless there's a specific reason for them not to be.

Or are you suggesting that all characters should be androgynous (i.e. not a certain gender)?

Being a main Valiant character means usually means doing lot's of physical violence and straight up murdering people. What percentage of the US population are women in prison for violent crimes opposed to males? How many famous serial killers are out there who are also female?

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:02 pm

Looks like it might be Faith - http://www.comicbookresources.com/artic ... in-january" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:55 pm

As much as I'm looking forward to a Faith mini, this doesn't seem to qualify as new or on par with Wonder Woman.

Sven the Returned · Post by **Sven the Returned** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:28 am

jmatt wrote:As much as I'm looking forward to a Faith mini, this doesn't seem to qualify as new or on par with Wonder Woman.

It's probably just click bait. Reminds me of this:

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:10 am

jmatt wrote:As much as I'm looking forward to a Faith mini, this doesn't seem to qualify as new or on par with Wonder Woman.

The article itself seemed to imply it would be an existing character and not really a new one. I think the main point of the article was that they want the character to become the "preeminent female icon ... for the Valiant Universe". That doesn't mean the character would instantly be iconic outside of the Valiant Universe like Wonder Woman is. The other example given is Captain Marvel and she's not really iconic outside of the Marvel Universe. How could anyone just set out to create a character to do that?

To create a character that would be iconic to the world in general takes a lot of time. Wonder Woman is iconic because (on top of being a great character) she's been around for nearly 75 years, and has been featured prominently in other media. If VEI can turn Faith into a character that can support a solo book for 20 - 30 years then she would possibly be iconic too. In all honesty it would probably take more time, unless the movies can make her a household name.

I was trying to think what new female characters in recent history have been the most successful. I think Witchblade might be the best example, and she's nowhere near iconic.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:23 am

jeremycoe wrote:
jmatt wrote:As much as I'm looking forward to a Faith mini, this doesn't seem to qualify as new or on par with Wonder Woman.
The article itself seemed to imply it would be an existing character and not really a new one. I think the main point of the article was that they want the character to become the "preeminent female icon ... for the Valiant Universe". That doesn't mean the character would instantly be iconic outside of the Valiant Universe like Wonder Woman is. The other example given is Captain Marvel and she's not really iconic outside of the Marvel Universe. How could anyone just set out to create a character to do that?

To create a character that would be iconic to the world in general takes a lot of time. Wonder Woman is iconic because (on top of being a great character) she's been around for nearly 75 years, and has been featured prominently in other media. If VEI can turn Faith into a character that can support a solo book for 20 - 30 years then she would possibly be iconic too. In all honesty it would probably take more time, unless the movies can make her a household name.

I was trying to think what new female characters in recent history have been the most successful. I think Witchblade might be the best example, and she's nowhere near iconic.

I think this book could translate very well to TV. Imagine the Harbinger Movies, with a follow up TV series featuring Faith played by the same actress. That could help with the iconography of the character.

DirtbagSailor · Post by **DirtbagSailor** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:41 pm

Um, based on Warren Simons recent Tweet; Dinesh's art collection; and the Bleeding Cool article; I think it will be a female cosmonaut from Divinity #3 who gained a different type of power than Divinity, and will play a significantly different role in the Valiant Universe.

It is 100% possible that space in the Valiant Universe is quite vast and with endless potential for powers unknown. She could return to earth a goddess similar to Wonder Woman, but with greater depth in character writing; or similar to Captain Marvel, but different in many ways and ideology.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:23 pm

With what they just laid down in Fall of Harbinger, it's gotta be Faith. She's literally called the most popular superhero on Earth.

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