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RyanMcLelland wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:03 pm Didn’t they have those Legoesque mini figures at one point? Am I imagining that?

I’m sad close to thirty years later I never bought that Goat inaction figure.

Even I have that one. The variant version, and it's not in its original packaging.

This is the kind of conversation we would have had when the comic first came out had I still been active here back then...

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How authoritative is Dox on this matter? Is that like saying something is an art form? An example that comes to mind is handloading , the practice of reusing certain components from ammunition to produce ammunition at home. Handloading is more art than science but truly is neither ...

How authoritative is Dox on this matter? Is that like saying something is an art form? An example that comes to mind is handloading , the practice of reusing certain components from ammunition to produce ammunition at home. Handloading is more art than science but truly is neither. Bullfighting ...

And PLEASE don't say Silk undoing death in Resurgence. As stated MANY times before, what was done is perfectly consistent with concepts from Archer and Armstrong, such as the Boon.


Concepts such as magic.


In Shadowman #2 published in 2012 Dox asks Jack if he's read Clarke and cites his ...

So, Valiant has undergone a sustained period of poorer quality comics, despite being internally consistent with previously established logic and guidelines?

In retaining Hawkins as their EiC, does that mean that Alien actively continued in DMG's established pattern of decisions? Which had led ...

Not every single VH-1 comic during either Shooter's or Layton's tenures was a winner, and that had nothing to do with them being consistent with what came before.

DC and Marvel have gone through those kind of slumps for decades.

Quality always ebbs and flows at every publisher.


So, Valiant has undergone a sustained period of poorer quality comics, despite being internally consistent with previously established logic and guidelines?


Alien needs to ...

There was a very bad run or two in X-O, sure. Not sure I agree about Shadowman. I think that has been fairly good since Jack returned. I particularly enjoyed the expanded origin of the Loa and Jaunty.


Didn't DMG only have two X-O runs, and even you say they're 'very bad'. That's really a bad ...

I actually enjoyed Psi-Lords.


Hey now! That is my line!

Seriously, every Bloodshot, X-O Manowar, and Shadowman series after 2019. Probably the worst of all was the one where Shanhara became Aric’s wisecracking sidekick - was that the Hallum run? After a certain point, you get to where you ...

I've never said "I love DMG and Alien". Try again.

DMG and Alien aren't supposed to adhere to what VH 1 did. They're supposed to adhere to what VEI did since that is what they're continuing from, and they have.

Unlike VH-2, which completely ignored everything that made VALIANT what it ...

I've never said "I love DMG and Alien". Try again.

DMG and Alien aren't supposed to adhere to what VH 1 did. They're supposed to adhere to what VEI did since that is what they're continuing from, and they have.

Unlike VH-2, which completely ignored everything that made VALIANT what it was ...

As started before, the quality of the storytelling, depth, and internal logic haven't changed since the VEI relaunch, while at Alien the art has suffered.

And no, what makes a comic book good or bad has nothing to do with what came before. What makes DMG's and Alien's VALIANT bad or good does ...

I've never said "I love DMG and Alien". Try again.

DMG and Alien aren't supposed to adhere to what VH 1 did. They're supposed to adhere to what VEI did since that is what they're continuing from, and they have.

Unlike VH-2, which completely ignored everything that made VALIANT what it was ...

Then what's the problem?

Dinesh set up his own world building for VEI, and DMG and Alien have been consistent with it.


You didn't answer the question though, it had nothing to do with VEI vs DMG. I'll make it more clear for you:

Here's what I don't understand. You've railed for decades that ...

If you don't like Alien and DMG because they've been consistent with VEI in such things as magic then you didn't like VEI either...

And PLEASE don't say Silk undoing death in Resurgence. As stated MANY times before, what was done is perfectly consistent with concepts from Archer and Armstrong, such as the Boon.


Concepts such as magic.


In what way do you think magic in the DMG and Alien era was handled differently ...

Alien and DMG haven't done anything that is inconsistent with what came before during Dinesh' time.

What is it that you believe either had done that contradicts any of the world building that began with the VEI reboot?

And PLEASE don't say Silk undoing death in Resurgence. As stated MANY times ...

And PLEASE don't say Silk undoing death in Resurgence. As stated MANY times before, what was done is perfectly consistent with concepts from Archer and Armstrong, such as the Boon.


Concepts such as magic.


In what way do you think magic in the DMG and Alien era was handled differently than ...

Birthquake led directly to Valiant losing all of its readers and turning the VH1 characters into a joke in the industry. Whoever was hired to pick up the pieces after Layton had to do something radically different as the characters' brand was completely destroyed.

Is VH2 great? No. But it's not ...

Ryan, Nicieza very publicly stated that VH-2 was entirely his idea. This is not a mystery.

So he decided to cancel VH1? That makes no sense, he was just an Editor. But seriously I'd like to know how you blame him for Birthquake being a disaster and the quality of VH1 being so bad that it lost ...

You don't know that. It's more likely that Acclaim executives made those decisions. Either way, if VH2 was so terrible, why did VEI use so much of it? You just have a grudge against Nicieza because he and Busiek verbally "tore you a new one" on Usenet almost 30 years ago and you've never let it go ...

So Nicieza made VH1 suck and Nicieza cancelled VH1? No, Layton made Vh1 suck and Acclaim executives canceled VH1. Acclaim people then hired Nicieza to create something new. He was just doing his job, and actually a number of things have stuck in VEI, so for only 1.5 years of comics he must have ...