Divinity #3

Brapbrap · Post by **Brapbrap** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:31 am

I still don't like that about a third of this issue felt like a Unity comic but Abram's story is really picking up with this issue, I hope the Unknown gets used in more stories too as it seems like it potentially could be a really cool part of the valiant universe.

dornwolf · Post by **dornwolf** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:59 pm

Been wanting to point this out since the preview. Gilad, a master warrior brilliant worked with all levels of military, but his attack on a godlike being boils down to Ghostbuster tactics. NOW!

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:32 pm

Kindt really fleshed things out this issue, he packed a lot into those 22 pages, with that being said, I'm still not quit sure of the timeframe in those last couple pages, his powers allow him to bend reality, and he mentions being able to turn to any page, so he went back to a time when she was younger, but she actually, should be 55, if born in 60. I loved the way in which Divinity handled Unity, Hairsine really sold it, with the alternating panels showcasing reality and perception, but it was also cool seeing Ninjak, figure it out.

I recall a couple guys mentioning, the fact that their were others on board with Abram, during the discussions pertaining to #1, looks like they were right, I didn't catch it then, but now knowing, I look forward to re-reading #1 again, just to see if theirs anything else, I might of overlooked.

bribri · Post by **bribri** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:39 pm

This must be the "battle" from Unity, the one that exhausts the team members so much. Right? Months/years of living (even if only seconds passed)...

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:51 pm

bribri wrote:This must be the "battle" from Unity, the one that exhausts the team members so much. Right? Months/years of living (even if only seconds passed)...

I sure hope so. Originally I was thinking it was from the big battle from The Valiant. If not and it's from some other difficult and exhausting battle, well then that's getting kind of
redundant. I also hope they clarify a timeline with these different appearances.
DAN

erwinrafael · Post by **erwinrafael** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:21 pm

dornwolf wrote:Been wanting to point this out since the preview. Gilad, a master warrior brilliant worked with all levels of military, but his attack on a godlike being boils down to Ghostbuster tactics. NOW!

Sigh. Can somebody please write the Eternal Warrior as a competent and wise warrior who has gained wisdom over the centuries?

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:33 pm

I enjoyed the issue but oddly find myself unable to think of much to say about it. It fills in blanks in the story that my mind had already kinda filled in, but let's give it a whirl:

1) Gilad addresses him as Divinity. Have we seen him referred to this way previously by Neville? (Codename: Divinity is referred to in this ish). Surely he doesn't refer to himself Divinity, at least not yet.

2) Okay, so I guess he was addressing the other astronauts in the last issue.

3) How crazy is this idea? If the other two come back with heavenly powers, there'd be a Trinity of these Angels...

4) Kinda glad the unknown wasn't The Unknown. But I wished they'd teased us with a little more than what we got.

Sir Sandrick · Post by **Sir Sandrick** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:47 am

dornwolf wrote:Been wanting to point this out since the preview. Gilad, a master warrior brilliant worked with all levels of military, but his attack on a godlike being boils down to Ghostbuster tactics. NOW!

Ha yeah... "Get him!!!"

I really enjoy this book because I have NO idea where it is headed and it isn't bound to any book that we know. A solid and very different read that what else is out there.

dornwolf · Post by **dornwolf** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:53 am

Sir Sandrick wrote:
dornwolf wrote:Been wanting to point this out since the preview. Gilad, a master warrior brilliant worked with all levels of military, but his attack on a godlike being boils down to Ghostbuster tactics. NOW!
Ha yeah... "Get him!!!"

I really enjoy this book because I have NO idea where it is headed and it isn't bound to any book that we know. A solid and very different read that what else is out there.

Seriously look at the two scenes from Ghostbusters

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb5-LLQ3FjY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Gilad is basically Valiants equivalent to Ray. He's got the book smarts but he's an idiot when it comes to actual planning.

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:44 am

jmatt wrote:How crazy is this idea? If the other two come back with heavenly powers, there'd be a Trinity of these Angels...

There's probably a plan for the other two astronauts Russian Phil and Russian Erica, whatever their names are.

I guess "Seleski" could already be a Russian name.

So, we just need Erica's maiden name to be something Russian, too... how about Erika Rossiya?

Bone-A-Fach-ee · Post by **Bone-A-Fach-ee** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:43 pm

I loved all the backstory stuff on Divinity. And those two other cosmonauts are definitely coming back somehow. Would love it if they were Erica Pierce and Fred Bender.... but those aren't very Russian-y names. Oh wait. Neither is Abram Adams. ADAMS?!?!?!
As far as the Unity fight. The visuals were very cool. But, what happened last issue? Weren't they all in their fondest desires? Did they escape that only to try and attack again and this time be put into some sort of mind/time vacuum?
The only interesting part involving Unity in this issue was that Ninjak said a monk taught him how to control his mind. My thoughts went straight to The Bleeding Monk. Anyone? Theories on that? Or was it just a throwaway line?

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:07 pm

Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:The only interesting part involving Unity in this issue was that Ninjak said a monk taught him how to control his mind. My thoughts went straight to The Bleeding Monk. Anyone? Theories on that? Or was it just a throwaway line?

I definitely thought of the Bleeding Monk... I'm pretty sure that's who he meant.

He said "an undead monk in Chile" ... "he taught me a way to control the reality that I perceive"

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:25 pm

greg wrote:I definitely thought of the Bleeding Monk... I'm pretty sure that's who he meant.

Same here.

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:21 pm

greg wrote:
Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:The only interesting part involving Unity in this issue was that Ninjak said a monk taught him how to control his mind. My thoughts went straight to The Bleeding Monk. Anyone? Theories on that? Or was it just a throwaway line?
I definitely thought of the Bleeding Monk... I'm pretty sure that's who he meant.

He said "an undead monk in Chile" ... "he taught me a way to control the reality that I perceive"

+1 I'd definitely like to see Kindt, follow up on that, somewhere down the line, in the solo.

DIrishB · Post by **DIrishB** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:14 am

agent_graves wrote:Kindt really fleshed things out this issue, he packed a lot into those 22 pages, with that being said, I'm still not quit sure of the timeframe in those last couple pages, his powers allow him to bend reality, and he mentions being able to turn to any page, so he went back to a time when she was younger, but she actually, should be 55, if born in 60. I loved the way in which Divinity handled Unity, Hairsine really sold it, with the alternating panels showcasing reality and perception, but it was also cool seeing Ninjak, figure it out.

I recall a couple guys mentioning, the fact that their were others on board with Abram, during the discussions pertaining to #1, looks like they were right, I didn't catch it then, but now knowing, I look forward to re-reading #1 again, just to see if theirs anything else, I might of overlooked.

Actually she'd be 54 (maybe 53 if she was conceived in 1960 but not born until 1961).

It's mentioned they discovered the Unknown in 1987 (27 years into the mission). At that point he changes and heads back to Earth, a journey he says takes 27 years to get back, which places the modern day events of Divinity in 2014, not 2015.

DIrishB · Post by **DIrishB** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:16 am

bribri wrote:This must be the "battle" from Unity, the one that exhausts the team members so much. Right? Months/years of living (even if only seconds passed)...

I was wondering that too (guess we'll find out for sure in next issue of Unity). However, I'm not entirely sure on that, mainly because they tend to keep the books largely self-contained. While Unity makes an appearance in this book, I'd honestly be kind of surprised if it's mentioned at all in the Unity ongoing, for instance. Could go either way, I suppose.

Brapbrap · Post by **Brapbrap** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:07 pm

Read the Unity 18 solicit, the battle in Unity is not from another story.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:47 pm

Ditto on the Bleeding Monk. Ditto on the other astronaughts returning. Ditto on a good set up for other characters down the line.

My guess on the girlfriend and child would be one of three things:

1) we've seen Abram apparently able to travel through time, so he could have returned to Earth and then through time to his girlfriend and child prior to his current state in Australia.

2) he is fulfilling his own greatest desire by creating or pulling through time his girlfriend and child.

3) he has a connection to the child which is allowing him to not only travel to/see his own memories, but hers as well.

DirtbagSailor · Post by **DirtbagSailor** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:46 am

Abram is Livewire's father!

Bone-A-Fach-ee · Post by **Bone-A-Fach-ee** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:39 am

DirtbagSailor wrote:Abram is Livewire's father!

THAT'S an awesome theory! Now the question is, how/when/ did Abrams "pop" Amanada into being a psiot?

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:10 am

Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:
DirtbagSailor wrote:Abram is Livewire's father!
THAT'S an awesome theory! Now the question is, how/when/ did Abrams "pop" Amanada into being a psiot?

She's still too young. She could be a granddaughter. But he knocked up his girlfriend in the 60s and I'm pretty sure livewire is in her 20s.

DirtbagSailor · Post by **DirtbagSailor** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:03 am

BugsySig wrote:
Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:
DirtbagSailor wrote:Abram is Livewire's father!
THAT'S an awesome theory! Now the question is, how/when/ did Abrams "pop" Amanada into being a psiot?
She's still too young. She could be a granddaughter. But he knocked up his girlfriend in the 60s and I'm pretty sure livewire is in her 20s.

Time is not absolute, and Amanda did grow up in a foster home and/or orphanage before Harada taking her under his wing, correct?

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:23 am

DirtbagSailor wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:
DirtbagSailor wrote:Abram is Livewire's father!
THAT'S an awesome theory! Now the question is, how/when/ did Abrams "pop" Amanada into being a psiot?
She's still too young. She could be a granddaughter. But he knocked up his girlfriend in the 60s and I'm pretty sure livewire is in her 20s.
Time is not absolute, and Amanda did grow up in a foster home and/or orphanage before Harada taking her under his wing, correct?

Correct on both accounts

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:50 pm

Not much talk about the unknown. I don't have it in front of me but it seemed to be some kind of concave, white surface with swirling masses of nebulae above it. I was expecting... I dunno. More. Did I miss anything?

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:55 pm

DIrishB wrote:
agent_graves wrote:Kindt really fleshed things out this issue, he packed a lot into those 22 pages, with that being said, I'm still not quit sure of the timeframe in those last couple pages, his powers allow him to bend reality, and he mentions being able to turn to any page, so he went back to a time when she was younger, but she actually, should be 55, if born in 60. I loved the way in which Divinity handled Unity, Hairsine really sold it, with the alternating panels showcasing reality and perception, but it was also cool seeing Ninjak, figure it out.

I recall a couple guys mentioning, the fact that their were others on board with Abram, during the discussions pertaining to #1, looks like they were right, I didn't catch it then, but now knowing, I look forward to re-reading #1 again, just to see if theirs anything else, I might of overlooked.
Actually she'd be 54 (maybe 53 if she was conceived in 1960 but not born until 1961).

It's mentioned they discovered the Unknown in 1987 (27 years into the mission). At that point he changes and heads back to Earth, a journey he says takes 27 years to get back, which places the modern day events of Divinity in 2014, not 2015.

Ah, of course, I stand corrected. So, early 50's, I can't wait to see how all this pans out, and where it leads for the character, long-term.

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