Grading Valiant Books (V1) - 9.6 Minimum

[Ricomortis]

Ok...

Only speaking for V1

So... which V1 Pre-Unities are worth grading now in 9.6 as a prescreen?

I am seriously considering lowering my prescreen standards to 9.6 from 9.8.

GO!


List of V1 Pre-Unity books to get graded in at least 9.6:

(Hot/Key) Archer & Armstrong 0 (100,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Archer, 1st appearance of Armstrong)

(Hot/Key/Rare) Archer & Armstrong 0 Gold (5,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Archer, 1st appearance of Armstrong)

(Rare) Harbinger 0 Pink (6,500 issues printed)

(Hot/Key) Harbinger 1 w/ coupon (48,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Harbinger Kids, 1st appearance of Sting (Peter Stanchek), 1st appearance of Kris, 1st appearance of Zephyr, 1st appearance of Flamingo, 1st appearance of Torque)

Harbinger 2 w/ coupon (40,000 issues printed) (2nd appearance of Harbinger Kids, 2nd appearance of Harada)

Harbinger 3 w/ coupon (40,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Ax, 3rd appearance of Harbinger Kids)

Harbinger 4 w/ coupon (40,000 issues printed) (2nd appearance of Ax)

Harbinger 5 w/ coupon (35,000 issues printed)

Harbinger 6 w/ coupon (40,000 issues printed) (Death of Torque)

(Rare) Magnus 0 Retail (6,000 issues printed)

(Rare) Magnus 0 w/ card (14,000 issues printed)

(Hot/Key) Magnus 5 w/ cards - Flipbook (85,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Rai, 1st appearance of Grandmother, 1st appearance of Slagger)

(Semi Key) Magnus 7 w/ cards - Flipbook (80,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of X-O Armor, 1st appearance of Grand One (Grandmother & 1A merge), 2nd appearance of Spider Aliens)

Rai 3 (38,000 issues printed)

Rai 4 (38,000 issues printed)

Rai 5 (40,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Eternal Warrior of 4001)

(Hot/Key) Shadowman 1 (50,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Shadowman)

(Hot/Key) Solar 3 (65,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Toyo Harada, 1st Harbinger Foundation, 2nd appearance of Erica Pierce)

(Hot/Key) Solar 10 (55,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of the Eternal Warrior (Gilad), 1st Geomancers)

(Rare) Unity 0 Red (5,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Eternal Warrior of 4001, 1st appearance of "Another" Erica Pierce (Mothergod)

(Hot/Key) X-O Manowar 1 (80,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of X-O Manowar (Aric), 1st appearance of Ken Clarkson, 1st Manowar class X armor, 2nd appearance of Spider Aliens)

(Hot/Key) X-O Manowar 4 (42,000 issues printed) (Cameo of Jack Boniface (Shadowman), Harbinger Kids appearance)

List of V1 books to get graded in at least 9.6:

(Hot/Rare) Eternal Warrior 1 Gold Flat (5,000 issues printed)

(Hot/Rare) Eternal Warrior 1 Gold Embossed (5,000 issues printed)

(Hot/Key) Eternal Warrior 4 (100,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Bloodshot, 1st appearance of Immortal Enemy)

(Hot/Key) Rai 0 (150,000 issues printed) (1st FULL appearance of Bloodshot, 1st appearance of New Rai, 1st appearance of Solar the Destroyer, 2nd appearance of HARD Corps)

(Hot/Key) Shadowman 8 (85,000 issues printed) (1st appearance of Master Darque)

[nycjadie]

Harbinger 1
Harbinger Pink
Magnus 0

Recently:
Rai 0
Solar 3
Eternal Warrior 0 Gold
Magnus 5
More?

[FormerReader]

Harbinger 1
Harbinger Pink
Magnus 0

Recently:
Rai 0
Solar 3
Eternal Warrior 0 Gold
Magnus 5
More?

Did you mean A&A #0 Gold?

[Ricomortis]

Harbinger 1
Harbinger Pink
Magnus 0

Recently:
Rai 0
Solar 3
Eternal Warrior 0 Gold
Magnus 5
More?

Did you mean A&A #0 Gold?

I think Both Magnus 0's are candidates for 9.6

as well as

X-O 1
A&A 0
A&A 0 Gold
Magnus 7 (1st XO Armor)

[nycjadie]

Harbinger 1
Harbinger Pink
Magnus 0

Recently:
Rai 0
Solar 3
Eternal Warrior 0 Gold
Magnus 5
More?

Did you mean A&A #0 Gold?

Yes I did! Thx!

[ckb]

Ok...

Only speaking for V1

So... which VH1 Pre-Unities are worth grading now in 9.6 as a prescreen.

I am seriously considering lowering my prescreen standards to 9.6 from 9.8.

GO!


List of V1 books to get graded in at least 9.6:

Archer & Armstrong 0
Archer & Armstrong 0 Gold
Harbinger 0 Pink
Harbinger 1
Magnus 0 Retail
Magnus 0 w/ card
Magnus 5
Magnus 7
Solar 10
X-O Manowar 1
X-O Manowar 4

I actually think you are good on that whole list.

I hate screening books at 9.6 that already haven't been screened at 9.8. But it's probably just my imagination.

[greatbrandino11]

Do Eternal Warrior 4 and Shadowman 1 make the cut?

[nycjadie]

Definitely think Solar 3 should be on there, as should Rai 0. I think Shadowman 8 might be in the near future. EW 4 probably will be as well.

[Ricomortis]

So.... Now that DMG has been announced, does anyone think that some of the other Harbinger pre-unities will increase in value and be worth a 9.6 look?

[DirtbagSailor]

So.... Now that DMG has been announced, does anyone think that some of the other Harbinger pre-unities will increase in value and be worth a 9.6 look?

Yes.

Anything pre-Unity and with a coupon will be in demand. Print runs were low, coupons are often cut, books have HIGH collectibilty potential with new fans.

[DirtbagSailor]

My list (at this time):

Archer & Armstrong #0 (100,000 issues printed). 9.8's should be easier to locate. Potential market value for 9.6's in the future, that is in the future.

Archer & Armstrong #0 Gold (5,000 issues printed). 30 or so 9.8's exist presently. Highly condition sensitive; low print run; few 9.8's; high value; prescreen in 9.4 or above.

Archer & Armstrong #8 (250,000 issues printed) Large print run. Pre-screen for 9.8.

Bloodshot #6 (410,000 issues printed) MASSIVE print run. Pre-screen for 9.8 only.

Eternal Warrior #1 Gold Flat(4,000 estimated issues) 14 or so 9.8's exist presently. Highly condition sensitive; low print run; few 9.8's; high value; prescreen in 9.4 or above.

Eternal Warrior #1 Gold Embossed (5,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Harbinger #0 Pink (6,500 issues printed) 9.8's and 9.6's will be sellable; possibly 9.4's down the road too! High potential for market value as there are FAR less of these than Harby #1, which is already exploding in value with 48,000 printed. Basically a 1:7 or 1:8 ratio of #0 Pinks to Harby #1s.

Harbinger #1 (48,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.4 and above.

Harbinger #3 & #5 (35,000-40,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Harbinger #2, 4, 5, 6, & 7 (40,000-50,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.8 and above.

Harbinger #10 (125,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.8 and above.

Magnus #0 Retail (6,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above. Movie/TV/animation potential is very low due to licenses. There will likely be an increase in demand, but not a huge increase. VERY small print run though.

Magnus #0 w/ card (14,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above. Movie/TV/animation potential is very low due to licenses. There will likely be an increase in demand, but not a huge increase. Greater potential than retailer verison.

Magnus #5 w/ cards (85,000 issues printed) (investigate red card vs black card availibility). Already hot book selling strong in 9.8. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above, and possibly lower with more info on the limited nature of red cards vs black cards.

Magnus #7 w/ cards (80,000 issues printed) 9.8's selling steady. May have an increase due to new buyers, so 9.6 sales are not impossible. Semi-key book though, with potential, but not cRaZy potential.

Rai #0 (150,000 issues printed) Recommend pre-screen for 9.8. 9.6 potential, but had a higher than normal print-run and many copies are well kept in high grade.

Rai #5 (38,000 issues printed) Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Shadowman #1 (50,000 issues printed)Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Shadowman #8 (85,000 issues printed)Recommend pre-screen for 9.8. With announcement of Shadowman film movement, transition to 9.6 or higher.

SMOTA #3 (65,000 issues printed) HUGE increase in demand since DMG. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

SMOTA #10 (55,000 issues printed) 9.8's aways considered "GEMS". Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Unity #0 RED (5,000 issues printed) Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

X-O Manowar #1/2 GOLD (2,500 issues printed) Always in demand in 9.8, but now 9.6 or even 9.4 are not out of the question. No one is thinking about this one yet...

X-O Manowar #1 (80,000 issues printed) HUGE increase in demand since DMG. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

X-O Manowar #4 (42,000 issues printed) HUGE increase in demand since DMG. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

[greg]

Rai 4 should probably be Rai 3, 4

[betterthanezra]

Harbinger 5 & 6 are incredibly hard to find 9.8

-Brian

[nycjadie]

I agree with DBS and Brian. After screening hundreds of books this year (possibly thousands), those Harry issues are tough in 9.8. Ironically, Harby 2 is much easier, in my experience.

Nice thoughts on X-O 1/2. I've had trouble finding that in NM+ grade. I do have nearly the entire inks for that issue, so here is to seeing value increase on that one!

[DirtbagSailor]

Rai 4 should probably be Rai 3, 4

Oops, changed RAI #4 to read RAI #5.

[greg]

Rai 4 should probably be Rai 3, 4

Oops, changed RAI #4 to read RAI #5.

Yes, Rai #3, 4, 5

[Ricomortis]

My list (at this time):

Archer & Armstrong #0 (100,000 issues printed). 9.8's should be easier to locate. Potential market value for 9.6's in the future, that is in the future.

Archer & Armstrong #0 Gold (5,000 issues printed). 30 or so 9.8's exist presently. Highly condition sensitive; low print run; few 9.8's; high value; prescreen in 9.4 or above.

Archer & Armstrong #8 (250,000 issues printed) Large print run. Pre-screen for 9.8.

Bloodshot #6 (410,000 issues printed) MASSIVE print run. Pre-screen for 9.8 only.

Eternal Warrior #1 Gold Flat(4,000 estimated issues) 14 or so 9.8's exist presently. Highly condition sensitive; low print run; few 9.8's; high value; prescreen in 9.4 or above.

Eternal Warrior #1 Gold Embossed (5,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Harbinger #0 Pink (6,500 issues printed) 9.8's and 9.6's will be sellable; possibly 9.4's down the road too! High potential for market value as there are FAR less of these than Harby #1, which is already exploding in value with 48,000 printed. Basically a 1:7 or 1:8 ratio of #0 Pinks to Harby #1s.

Harbinger #1 (48,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.4 and above.

Harbinger #3 & #5 (35,000-40,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Harbinger #2, 4, 5, 6, & 7 (40,000-50,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.8 and above.

Harbinger #10 (125,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.8 and above.

Magnus #0 Retail (6,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above. Movie/TV/animation potential is very low due to licenses. There will likely be an increase in demand, but not a huge increase. VERY small print run though.

Magnus #0 w/ card (14,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above. Movie/TV/animation potential is very low due to licenses. There will likely be an increase in demand, but not a huge increase. Greater potential than retailer verison.

Magnus #5 w/ cards (85,000 issues printed) (investigate red card vs black card availibility). Already hot book selling strong in 9.8. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above, and possibly lower with more info on the limited nature of red cards vs black cards.

Magnus #7 w/ cards (80,000 issues printed) 9.8's selling steady. May have an increase due to new buyers, so 9.6 sales are not impossible. Semi-key book though, with potential, but not cRaZy potential.

Rai #0 (150,000 issues printed) Recommend pre-screen for 9.8. 9.6 potential, but had a higher than normal print-run and many copies are well kept in high grade.

Rai #5 (38,000 issues printed) Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Shadowman #1 (50,000 issues printed)Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Shadowman #8 (85,000 issues printed)Recommend pre-screen for 9.8. With announcement of Shadowman film movement, transition to 9.6 or higher.

SMOTA #3 (65,000 issues printed) HUGE increase in demand since DMG. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

SMOTA #10 (55,000 issues printed) 9.8's aways considered "GEMS". Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Unity #0 RED (5,000 issues printed) Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

X-O Manowar #1/2 GOLD (2,500 issues printed) Always in demand in 9.8, but now 9.6 or even 9.4 are not out of the question. No one is thinking about this one yet...

X-O Manowar #1 (80,000 issues printed) HUGE increase in demand since DMG. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

X-O Manowar #4 (42,000 issues printed) HUGE increase in demand since DMG. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

DBS... This is EXACTLY the way I think and agree 100%

[Escaflown4]

My list (at this time):

Archer & Armstrong #0 (100,000 issues printed). 9.8's should be easier to locate. Potential market value for 9.6's in the future, that is in the future.

Archer & Armstrong #0 Gold (5,000 issues printed). 30 or so 9.8's exist presently. Highly condition sensitive; low print run; few 9.8's; high value; prescreen in 9.4 or above.

Archer & Armstrong #8 (250,000 issues printed) Large print run. Pre-screen for 9.8.

Bloodshot #6 (410,000 issues printed) MASSIVE print run. Pre-screen for 9.8 only.

Eternal Warrior #1 Gold Flat(4,000 estimated issues) 14 or so 9.8's exist presently. Highly condition sensitive; low print run; few 9.8's; high value; prescreen in 9.4 or above.

Eternal Warrior #1 Gold Embossed (5,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Harbinger #0 Pink (6,500 issues printed) 9.8's and 9.6's will be sellable; possibly 9.4's down the road too! High potential for market value as there are FAR less of these than Harby #1, which is already exploding in value with 48,000 printed. Basically a 1:7 or 1:8 ratio of #0 Pinks to Harby #1s.

Harbinger #1 (48,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.4 and above.

Harbinger #3 & #5 (35,000-40,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Harbinger #2, 4, 5, 6, & 7 (40,000-50,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.8 and above.

Harbinger #10 (125,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.8 and above.

Magnus #0 Retail (6,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above. Movie/TV/animation potential is very low due to licenses. There will likely be an increase in demand, but not a huge increase. VERY small print run though.

Magnus #0 w/ card (14,000 issues printed) recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above. Movie/TV/animation potential is very low due to licenses. There will likely be an increase in demand, but not a huge increase. Greater potential than retailer verison.

Magnus #5 w/ cards (85,000 issues printed) (investigate red card vs black card availibility). Already hot book selling strong in 9.8. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above, and possibly lower with more info on the limited nature of red cards vs black cards.

Magnus #7 w/ cards (80,000 issues printed) 9.8's selling steady. May have an increase due to new buyers, so 9.6 sales are not impossible. Semi-key book though, with potential, but not cRaZy potential.

Rai #0 (150,000 issues printed) Recommend pre-screen for 9.8. 9.6 potential, but had a higher than normal print-run and many copies are well kept in high grade.

Rai #5 (38,000 issues printed) Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Shadowman #1 (50,000 issues printed)Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Shadowman #8 (85,000 issues printed)Recommend pre-screen for 9.8. With announcement of Shadowman film movement, transition to 9.6 or higher.

SMOTA #3 (65,000 issues printed) HUGE increase in demand since DMG. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

SMOTA #10 (55,000 issues printed) 9.8's aways considered "GEMS". Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

Unity #0 RED (5,000 issues printed) Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

X-O Manowar #1/2 GOLD (2,500 issues printed) Always in demand in 9.8, but now 9.6 or even 9.4 are not out of the question. No one is thinking about this one yet...

X-O Manowar #1 (80,000 issues printed) HUGE increase in demand since DMG. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

X-O Manowar #4 (42,000 issues printed) HUGE increase in demand since DMG. Recommend pre-screen for 9.6 and above.

DBS... This is EXACTLY the way I think and agree 100%

+2

As a added note, IMO Shadowman #8 is severely under-valued for such a major and important villain. I would try to get as many 9.8 graded as this book may explode at any given moment.

[nycjadie]

Need to add EW #4 - first appearance of Bloodshot. That's a hot book at 9.8, and in 9.6 if there is movie news.

[Escaflown4]

Need to add EW #4 - first appearance of Bloodshot. That's a hot book at 9.8, and in 9.6 if there is movie news.

Didn't realize this was missing from DBS list until I took a second look. Yes, EW#4 is definitely a hot book right now.

+1

[Ricomortis]

So... are Rai 1, Solar 1 and Magnus 1 worth getting in 9.6?

I've updated the Original Post.

[Escaflown4]

So... are Rai 1, Solar 1 and Magnus 1 worth getting in 9.6?

I've updated the Original Post.

Probably not right now, but I would stick with 9.8 on these.

[nycjadie]

I've seen Rai 9.6 recently go for $100-150. Magnus 5 in 9.6 can easily sell for $100. Solar 3 is close to $100.

However, IMO, Magnus 1 and Solar 1 are probably not worth it unless VEI picks up these properties.

[DirtbagSailor]

Can't believe I missed EW #4; I wrote the damn article on this not long ago lol!

http://valiantcentral.com/collectors-co ... ppearance/

[DirtbagSailor]

Shadowman #1 might need to be on this list. Lot of activity heating up there. With the recent WONDERCON VEI Movie announcement, I would look a t ANY Bloodshot and/or Harbinger key/rare.