LCS chatter

[xodacia81]

Went to two of the three shops, today-was hunting down some missing issues of Fables that I loaned a friend, who then lost them(they gave me the money, so all cool)-and I asked both sets of owners what they thought of VALIANT. The one said that they are "shocked that they lasted 4 months, and seem to be healthier than expected" while another said "I think it's nice to see these characters back. We sell about 5 copies a month, and always have one or two left over. That's not bad, in this market. Really good for a new company, in fact."

Overall, I get the feeling that VEI has surprised people, mostly by being consistent, rather than any outright "wow" factor. Although, the gent who made the second comment was very impressed by the level of talent on the books, and said that he's sad Dysart is VEI exclusive because "That means no more BPRD stories" which gave me a chuckle.

So, any of you guys noticing any "Chatter" about VEI at your local shops? (for those who still attend such things)

[depluto]

Went to two of the three shops, today-was hunting down some missing issues of Fables that I loaned a friend, who then lost them(they gave me the money, so all cool)-and I asked both sets of owners what they thought of VALIANT. The one said that they are "shocked that they lasted 4 months, and seem to be healthier than expected" while another said "I think it's nice to see these characters back. We sell about 5 copies a month, and always have one or two left over. That's not bad, in this market. Really good for a new company, in fact."

Overall, I get the feeling that VEI has surprised people, mostly by being consistent, rather than any outright "wow" factor. Although, the gent who made the second comment was very impressed by the level of talent on the books, and said that he's sad Dysart is VEI exclusive because "That means no more BPRD stories" which gave me a chuckle.

So, any of you guys noticing any "Chatter" about VEI at your local shops? (for those who still attend such things)

I get a little tired of the way people have these low expectations for Valiant. The original characters are great, had a ton of success but got burned by the times (and their own actions). Now VEI has control, hired GREAT people to work up a universe and have executed it pretty damn well. Why did all these geeks have these low expectations?

[GGSAE]

Went to two of the three shops, today-was hunting down some missing issues of Fables that I loaned a friend, who then lost them(they gave me the money, so all cool)-and I asked both sets of owners what they thought of VALIANT. The one said that they are "shocked that they lasted 4 months, and seem to be healthier than expected" while another said "I think it's nice to see these characters back. We sell about 5 copies a month, and always have one or two left over. That's not bad, in this market. Really good for a new company, in fact."

Overall, I get the feeling that VEI has surprised people, mostly by being consistent, rather than any outright "wow" factor. Although, the gent who made the second comment was very impressed by the level of talent on the books, and said that he's sad Dysart is VEI exclusive because "That means no more BPRD stories" which gave me a chuckle.

So, any of you guys noticing any "Chatter" about VEI at your local shops? (for those who still attend such things)

I get a little tired of the way people have these low expectations for Valiant. The original characters are great, had a ton of success but got burned by the times (and their own actions). Now VEI has control, hired GREAT people to work up a universe and have executed it pretty damn well. Why did all these geeks have these low expectations?

I guess they have some sort of entitlement, and the most vocal are the type of guys that probably have very little social skills in real life. Another thing I don't understand is the backlash of VE1 from fans of the original Valiant. I can think of a number of former/current board members that haven't read a single issue of VE1, and then there's the extremes like that DG guy over at the CGC boards. Not sure what that's guy problem is, but he clearly is not right in the head.

[GGSAE]

I'd also like to point out, given the history of speculation associated with Valiant, it's possible some of these guys are *SQUEE* the relaunch hasn't had a positive affect on VH1 pricing.

[xodacia81]

Went to two of the three shops, today-was hunting down some missing issues of Fables that I loaned a friend, who then lost them(they gave me the money, so all cool)-and I asked both sets of owners what they thought of VALIANT. The one said that they are "shocked that they lasted 4 months, and seem to be healthier than expected" while another said "I think it's nice to see these characters back. We sell about 5 copies a month, and always have one or two left over. That's not bad, in this market. Really good for a new company, in fact."

Overall, I get the feeling that VEI has surprised people, mostly by being consistent, rather than any outright "wow" factor. Although, the gent who made the second comment was very impressed by the level of talent on the books, and said that he's sad Dysart is VEI exclusive because "That means no more BPRD stories" which gave me a chuckle.

So, any of you guys noticing any "Chatter" about VEI at your local shops? (for those who still attend such things)

I get a little tired of the way people have these low expectations for Valiant. The original characters are great, had a ton of success but got burned by the times (and their own actions). Now VEI has control, hired GREAT people to work up a universe and have executed it pretty damn well. Why did all these geeks have these low expectations?

I guess they have some sort of entitlement, and the most vocal are the type of guys that probably have very little social skills in real life. Another thing I don't understand is the backlash of VE1 from fans of the original Valiant. I can think of a number of former/current board members that haven't read a single issue of VE1, and then there's the extremes like that DG guy over at the CGC boards. Not sure what that's guy problem is, but he clearly is not right in the head.

Is DG perhaps the same as Defiant1? That would explain things. As far as I'm concerned, those who refuse to check for themselves don't get to offer reasons one way or the other.

[1st Among Equals]

Sadly my lcs said they weren't selling doing well enough and have stopped ordering them along with putting back issues in the $1 bin.

[FormerReader]

I'd also like to point out, given the history of speculation associated with Valiant, it's possible some of these guys are *SQUEE* the relaunch hasn't had a positive affect on VH1 pricing.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

[FormerReader]

Is DG perhaps the same as Defiant1? That would explain things. As far as I'm concerned, those who refuse to check for themselves don't get to offer reasons one way or the other.

He is. I wasn't around when he was one the boards, but what happened that he has so much hate for all things Valiant? Talk about needing to get a social life. If you spend that much time hating on a comic book company you have some serious personality issues.

[comicsyte95]

My LCS i found out sold the harder to find VEI issues online telling me they didn't get them.After being caught they denied it.I don't go to them anymore.

Im much happier buying Online.

[xodacia81]

Is DG perhaps the same as Defiant1? That would explain things. As far as I'm concerned, those who refuse to check for themselves don't get to offer reasons one way or the other.

He is. I wasn't around when he was one the boards, but what happened that he has so much hate for all things Valiant? Talk about needing to get a social life. If you spend that much time hating on a comic book company you have some serious personality issues.

[GGSAE]

Is DG perhaps the same as Defiant1? That would explain things. As far as I'm concerned, those who refuse to check for themselves don't get to offer reasons one way or the other.

He is. I wasn't around when he was one the boards, but what happened that he has so much hate for all things Valiant? Talk about needing to get a social life. If you spend that much time hating on a comic book company you have some serious personality issues.

And he admitted to having 12 online user names, lol.

[bobby97801]

Last month, my LCS told me they was getting more customers subscribing to Valiant. I'm pretty sure I was the only one for the first year and a half. I am hoping that we keep growing.

[comicsyte95]

Last month my LCS told me he was getting more customers subscribing to Valiant. I'm pretty sure I was the only one for the first year and a half. I am hoping that we keep growing.

[Bone-A-Fach-ee]

I don't get to the comic shop that regularly, but when I do, it's Ed's store, Collector's Paradise. There are Valiant Posters on the windows! I think you all know what a giant Valiant guy Ed is, and he puts them front and center. Although, I never really asked how sales were going? But he definitely hypes them!

[lorddunlow]

Is DG perhaps the same as Defiant1? That would explain things. As far as I'm concerned, those who refuse to check for themselves don't get to offer reasons one way or the other.

He is. I wasn't around when he was one the boards, but what happened that he has so much hate for all things Valiant? Talk about needing to get a social life. If you spend that much time hating on a comic book company you have some serious personality issues.

And he admitted to having 12 online user names, lol.

People that use multiple accounts on the same forum are nuts.

[Canadian Dunlow]

Is DG perhaps the same as Defiant1? That would explain things. As far as I'm concerned, those who refuse to check for themselves don't get to offer reasons one way or the other.

He is. I wasn't around when he was one the boards, but what happened that he has so much hate for all things Valiant? Talk about needing to get a social life. If you spend that much time hating on a comic book company you have some serious personality issues.

And he admitted to having 12 online user names, lol.

People that use multiple accounts on the same forum are nuts.

+1

[Hotwire]

I got enough to spread around.

[lorddunlow]

Seriously, though, I just had this conversation with my LCS owner. He said VEI was selling better than any other indie publisher he sells, although not a lot. However, when I mentioned I noticed he seems to turn over TPBs frequently, he said that he can't keep them on the shelf, they are selling so well.

[kjjohanson]

Seriously, though, I just had this conversation with my LCS owner. He said VEI was selling better than any other indie publisher he sells, although not a lot. However, when I mentioned I noticed he seems to turn over TPBs frequently, he said that he can't keep them on the shelf, they are selling so well.

+√1

[xodacia81]

I'm convinced that in this era, they are a success and half the negativity is from people using a 1992 rubric during a 2014 economy. The one shop here said "comics are dead. Nothing sells a hundred issues anymore." No *SQUEE*, Sherlock. Speculation time is long past.

[kjjohanson]

I'm convinced that in this era, they are a success and half the negativity is from people using a 1992 rubric during a 2014 economy. The one shop here said "comics are dead. Nothing sells a hundred issues anymore." No *SQUEE*, Sherlock. Speculation time is long past.

Maybe if they* wouldn't be such Negative Nancies their customers would have more confidence in their product and they would make more sales


*the store, not Valiant

[xodacia81]

I'm convinced that in this era, they are a success and half the negativity is from people using a 1992 rubric during a 2014 economy. The one shop here said "comics are dead. Nothing sells a hundred issues anymore." No *SQUEE*, Sherlock. Speculation time is long past.

Maybe if they* wouldn't be such Negative Nancies their customers would have more confidence in their product and they would make more sales


*the store, not Valiant

Thank you! I mean, really, right? But that's my area, for you. Circle the wagons and shoot inward.

[SJS4]

My LCS is small, and probably more of a game store (Magic: The Gathering) than a comic store, but their VEI sales definitely look better today than a year ago. When VEI first started i asked them to order it for me, and they got an extra issue or two of the #1's for the shelf. But normally when i wnt in to get my pull box there wouldn't be any follow up issues on the shelf (not an empty space....he just wasn't ordering any shelf copies). Then I noticed he started having 1 or 2 issues of each issue on the shelf, and then up to about 5 issues. People must be buying them because they are never in the back issue section. Then for Unity he bought a ton of them (like 50ish) including a lot of variants. He sold most of them, but there are still 5-6 of them on the shelf, a long with a couple extra #2's.

So anyway, my perception is that VEI has been a hit for him. Not on the level of the big Marvel or DC characters, but somewhere in that Buffy/Hellboy/Star Wars range.

[GGSAE]

Is DG perhaps the same as Defiant1? That would explain things. As far as I'm concerned, those who refuse to check for themselves don't get to offer reasons one way or the other.

He is. I wasn't around when he was one the boards, but what happened that he has so much hate for all things Valiant? Talk about needing to get a social life. If you spend that much time hating on a comic book company you have some serious personality issues.

And he admitted to having 12 online user names, lol.

People that use multiple accounts on the same forum are nuts.

+1

[mkb28]

With my job I get to travel through 7 states in the Midwest, so I visit a lot of different comic stores. It really is a mixed response when I ask how the new Valiant books are selling. Most say they have a couple of loyal buyers who buy everything, but I usually see lots of new VEI books in the back issues.

Before I switched over to DCBS to get my books, my LCS would order an extra VEI book or two for the shelf, but I see most of these in the back issues too. Now that I am no longer ordering them, I wonder if they will continue to order copies for the shelf display.

Mkb28