Bloodshot #0 Discussion

[CallMeBloodshot]

Lets talk about this amazing issue

Great story, the art was just phenomenal. The way the art told the story was so expertly crafted it left me doing this: In fact, the art and the story were at perfect interplay here. Kindt let the art speak for itself, punctuating this issue with well deserved moments of pause every so often. Not to take away from Kindt, as his work here is just extraordinary. This story is from the perspective of Bloodshot's "creator", a man secretly trying to give Bloodshot a soul.

I have to say the ending confused me a bit, as I'm not entirely certain what that change in perspective means, along with what seems to be static perceived from both ends. I would definitely like to hear what others take from that final page. Maybe the nanites recognizing the "soul" of another. Did Rees' soul get absorbed by Bloodshot's nanites?

Up there with Valiant's best. I never thought there'd be an issue to rival Bloodshot #1 for me, but this might be my new favorite issue! These past three weeks have been the best weeks stretch of comics for me that I can remember. Two weeks ago we had Q&W #2, one of my new favorite issues. Last week Harby 15 became what I consider to be Dysart's best issue on the title, which is really saying something. And this week with Bloodshot zero, which quite frankly is a great meditation on the nature of sentience. What makes us who we are? Is it just a conscience or is it something more? 6/5 from

Side note: great day all around as my Bloodshirt t shirt arrived today. So i was able to show it off at my LCS when I picked up my comics today

[tchalla8]

I have to admit the vague nature of the narration led to quite a bit of confusion for me as well (versions of Bloodshot have been around since Vietnam?) It's going to require another read through for me before I can really decide if it worked or not. The set up was great. But yeah, the solution to the overall Bloodshot "problem"...not sure I understood the resolution for that. I also didn't get what happened when the most current iteration of Bloodshot woke up for the first time, and he started taking people out left and right without being under orders of any kind. But then again, I was reading it quick before I had to go back to work, so another pass at it might do the trick.

[Donovan]

What happened in panel 1 on pg 18? I'm guessing Bloodshot stole a the gun of a guy who had him in a headlock, and shot the guy by shooting through his own head by sticking the gun in his mouth?

If so, is he a left handed shooter? It just wasn't entirely clear to me.

Also, the 2nd Bloodshot was Vietnam - When was the first? The bloodshot with the tubes going into his chest?

[CallMeBloodshot]

What happened in panel 1 on pg 18? I'm guessing Bloodshot stole a the gun of a guy who had him in a headlock, and shot the guy by shooting through his own head by sticking the gun in his mouth?

If so, is he a left handed shooter? It just wasn't entirely clear to me.

Also, the 2nd Bloodshot was Vietnam - When was the first? The bloodshot with the tubes going into his chest?

Yeah that panel confused me too as it don't look like a gun but almost a pipe bomb in his mouth. I thnk the gun he grabbed with his other hand while he blew up the back of his head.

And yeah the first one was the one with the tubes, presumably WWII judging by the tank.

[Blood of Heroes]

I've only read it once, but it seems like every iteration of Bloodshot is black. In all the previous books he looks Caucasian. Did anyone else pick up on that?

[CallMeBloodshot]

I've only read it once, but it seems like every iteration of Bloodshot is black. In all the previous books he looks Caucasian. Did anyone else pick up on that?

Yeah. Meh, I could care less what his ethnicity is. I'm more interested in what you think of the ending haha

[tchalla8]

What happened in panel 1 on pg 18? I'm guessing Bloodshot stole a the gun of a guy who had him in a headlock, and shot the guy by shooting through his own head by sticking the gun in his mouth?

If so, is he a left handed shooter? It just wasn't entirely clear to me.

Also, the 2nd Bloodshot was Vietnam - When was the first? The bloodshot with the tubes going into his chest?

Yeah that panel confused me too as it don't look like a gun but almost a pipe bomb in his mouth. I thnk the gun he grabbed with his other hand while he blew up the back of his head.

Exact same panel where it went off the rails for me, too....

[MoonChild]

I prefer my BloodShot to be a dead Italian mobster but hey, sounds interesting! Will be picking up after work today.

[CallMeBloodshot]

What happened in panel 1 on pg 18? I'm guessing Bloodshot stole a the gun of a guy who had him in a headlock, and shot the guy by shooting through his own head by sticking the gun in his mouth?

If so, is he a left handed shooter? It just wasn't entirely clear to me.

Also, the 2nd Bloodshot was Vietnam - When was the first? The bloodshot with the tubes going into his chest?

Yeah that panel confused me too as it don't look like a gun but almost a pipe bomb in his mouth. I thnk the gun he grabbed with his other hand while he blew up the back of his head.

Exact same panel where it went off the rails for me, too....

You didn't like it?

[Donovan]

I'm just not understanding the need for him to have switched hands... It adds to the confusion.

As for the race issue, I've always thought he looked black - I can't explain it. Only as Bloodshot he was just drained of colour.

[MoonChild]

I'm just not understanding the need for him to have switched hands... It adds to the confusion.

As for the race issue, I've always thought he looked black - I can't explain it. Only as Bloodshot he was just drained of colour.

with straight hair?? If anything he looks part black because most Italians are part black from wayyy back.

[CallMeBloodshot]

Why does anyone even care about his ethnicity or race. And anyway why couldn't he be black? The guy is made up of several people, he's all of them really.

Anyway, does anyone have anything to say about the ending? I'm interested to here some opinions on that.

[MoonChild]

Why does anyone even care about his ethnicity or race. And anyway why couldn't he be black? The guy is made up of several people, he's all of them really.

Anyway, does anyone have anything to say about the ending? I'm interested to here some opinions on that.

Identity. Haven't read this issue so I have no idea about the "made up of several people".

[tchalla8]

What happened in panel 1 on pg 18? I'm guessing Bloodshot stole a the gun of a guy who had him in a headlock, and shot the guy by shooting through his own head by sticking the gun in his mouth?

If so, is he a left handed shooter? It just wasn't entirely clear to me.

Also, the 2nd Bloodshot was Vietnam - When was the first? The bloodshot with the tubes going into his chest?

Yeah that panel confused me too as it don't look like a gun but almost a pipe bomb in his mouth. I thnk the gun he grabbed with his other hand while he blew up the back of his head.

Exact same panel where it went off the rails for me, too....

You didn't like it?

off the rails meaning I couldn't clearly follow what was going on from that point on anymore. Up until then I was very much enjoying it.

[Blood of Heroes]

Why does anyone even care about his ethnicity or race. And anyway why couldn't he be black? The guy is made up of several people, he's all of them really.

Anyway, does anyone have anything to say about the ending? I'm interested to here some opinions on that.

It's not that I care what his race is, I want to know why it seems to have changed.
Is the Bloodshot we see at the end of the book the same man/body that we just saw puke nanites into Harada's mouth? If it's a different guy, how many have there been? What happened to the last guy or the one before that? He is seemingly indestructible, so what gives?

I'm not complaining about him being black. Give me a break.

[Blood of Heroes]

I'm just not understanding the need for him to have switched hands... It adds to the confusion.

As for the race issue, I've always thought he looked black - I can't explain it. Only as Bloodshot he was just drained of colour.

with straight hair?? If anything he looks part black because most Italians are part black from wayyy back.

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[MoonChild]

I'm just not understanding the need for him to have switched hands... It adds to the confusion.

As for the race issue, I've always thought he looked black - I can't explain it. Only as Bloodshot he was just drained of colour.

with straight hair?? If anything he looks part black because most Italians are part black from wayyy back.

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Image does not show but I sure do know that scene. true story.

[CallMeBloodshot]

Why does anyone even care about his ethnicity or race. And anyway why couldn't he be black? The guy is made up of several people, he's all of them really.

Anyway, does anyone have anything to say about the ending? I'm interested to here some opinions on that.

Identity. Haven't read this issue so I have no idea about the "made up of several people".

Well considering his memories are those of many people, and much of what we are is our experience, that's what I mean.

[BugsySig]

The art was great (in that one panel being discusses it took me a few looks, but the confusion comes because he is holding the gun in his mouth with both hands). I loved the layouts and backgrounds.

The story was good, but it really didn't add anything to the character of Bloodshot for me. It was too vague. I get the whole "soul" idea, and I can connect the dots to where that may be influencing the current events in Bloodshot's life. But is it Bloodshot himself who received a soul? Or is it the Nanites that received the soul?

And what about the Grey Goo flashback from the first arc? Where does that fit into everything? There obviously have been multiple Bloodshots, so who did those Nanites evolve within? Was it the Bloodshot from the end of this book, or is he the current Bloodshot? And why did PRS try to kill him during that incident, anyway?

[bygranddesign]

Excellent issue !!

Its one that I will be mulling over for some time ... just some quick thoughts

First off, I believe this iteration of bloodshot is not necessarily the one that is around today

it could be, it may not be

What the scientist did was re-program the nanites to capture the Soul of the soldier as he was dying/just before he dies.

So Bloodshot would have a soul .... and what kind of change would that bring to his behavior?

The scientist's journal is from 1992 ... so i'm assuming this re-programming of the nanites takes place then.

The body being used for bloodshot could have changed several times since then !!

I think the point is that after 20 years .... the nanites have been consuming souls ... and its the nanites that are rebelling against its programming

It's the nanites, the "goldies", which finally convinced "bloodshot" to fight back and not to be reprogrammed in 2012!!

In regards to the last page

it was meant to be ambiguous

Did Bloodshot ... now possessing a soul ... kill the scientist that re-programmed him ??

I think it was purposely left up to interpretation

Maybe Bloodshot killed the scientist ... but felt bad about it?

Or maybe, he felt compelled to save him, and he allowed him to escape?

I think open questions like that is good storytelling

[CallMeBloodshot]

Why does anyone even care about his ethnicity or race. And anyway why couldn't he be black? The guy is made up of several people, he's all of them really.

Anyway, does anyone have anything to say about the ending? I'm interested to here some opinions on that.

It's not that I care what his race is, I want to know why it seems to have changed.
Is the Bloodshot we see at the end of the book the same man/body that we just saw puke nanites into Harada's mouth? If it's a different guy, how many have there been? What happened to the last guy or the one before that? He is seemingly indestructible, so what gives?

I'm not complaining about him being black. Give me a break.

I'm not saying your racist I just think asking that question misses the point of the story. It's ambiguous as to what human body became Bloodshot, as its not really important. The body is the host of all these memories, and maybe even the "soul" of another man if you're into that kind of thing.

[BugsySig]

I do agree the end was open to interpretation. The General says "take him" not "kill him" so his fate is TBD.

[CallMeBloodshot]

The art was great (in that one panel being discusses it took me a few looks, but the confusion comes because he is holding the gun in his mouth with both hands). I loved the layouts and backgrounds.

The story was good, but it really didn't add anything to the character of Bloodshot for me. It was too vague. I get the whole "soul" idea, and I can connect the dots to where that may be influencing the current events in Bloodshot's life. But is it Bloodshot himself who received a soul? Or is it the Nanites that received the soul?

And what about the Grey Goo flashback from the first arc? Where does that fit into everything? There obviously have been multiple Bloodshots, so who did those Nanites evolve within? Was it the Bloodshot from the end of this book, or is he the current Bloodshot? And why did PRS try to kill him during that incident, anyway?

What makes you think there's a difference between the two? Once they're bonded, they are one. That's how I see it anyway.

[Blood of Heroes]

I'm just not understanding the need for him to have switched hands... It adds to the confusion.

As for the race issue, I've always thought he looked black - I can't explain it. Only as Bloodshot he was just drained of colour.

with straight hair?? If anything he looks part black because most Italians are part black from wayyy back.

[img]dennishoppertrueromance.jpeg[/img]

Image does not show but I sure do know that scene. true story.

that's because I'm too lazy to upload an image.

[wrunow]

I do agree the end was open to interpretation. The General says "take him" not "kill him" so his fate is TBD.

I thought this issue was spectacular. I would think that after all the speech from the General about pyramid builders and secrets he was killed at the end. Just my take on the issue.

I thought the idea of hiding his notes in the trash so if something happened to him they would just disappear was really original.

I think Kindt is a keeper, if this is what his writing on UNITY is gonna be like, we're in for a treat.