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I love this cover! I love how Valiant is thinking a little outside of the box with their Variant ideas rather than doing another sketch cover or just an alternate picture. I think that the Character design variants and this variant are great ideas that show that Valiant is thinking outside the box. :thumb:

This really fits with the book as well. I can easily imagine Pete drawing something like this while sitting through another boring lecture.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=41700 CBR says that it's a line-wide variant, so I'm not sure what that means. I hope it means that it's pretty easy to get.

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nutflush76 wrote:Image

I love this cover! I love how Valiant is thinking a little outside of the box with their Variant ideas rather than doing another sketch cover or just an alternate picture. I think that the Character design variants and this variant are great ideas that show that Valiant is thinking outside the box. :thumb:

This really fits with the book as well. I can easily imagine Pete drawing something like this while sitting through another boring lecture.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=41700 CBR says that it's a line-wide variant, so I'm not sure what that means. I hope it means that it's pretty easy to get.
Means you get one for every 125 Valiant books you buy that month (regardless of title). If you broke it up evenly between the 5 titles a retailer would have to order 25 of each to get 1.
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BugsySig wrote:
nutflush76 wrote:Image

I love this cover! I love how Valiant is thinking a little outside of the box with their Variant ideas rather than doing another sketch cover or just an alternate picture. I think that the Character design variants and this variant are great ideas that show that Valiant is thinking outside the box. :thumb:

This really fits with the book as well. I can easily imagine Pete drawing something like this while sitting through another boring lecture.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=41700 CBR says that it's a line-wide variant, so I'm not sure what that means. I hope it means that it's pretty easy to get.
Means you get one for every 125 Valiant books you buy that month (regardless of title). If you broke it up evenly between the 5 titles a retailer would have to order 25 of each to get 1.
Not necessarily 125.

VEI had 1:50 X-O #6 as a line-wide.

If it's 1:50, then it would be 10 copies of the 5 titles (or any combination that adds up to 50).

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With the current X-O fiasco, I might have to wait a bit to get these cheap...or maybe VEI will put em out for cover!

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greg wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
nutflush76 wrote:Image

I love this cover! I love how Valiant is thinking a little outside of the box with their Variant ideas rather than doing another sketch cover or just an alternate picture. I think that the Character design variants and this variant are great ideas that show that Valiant is thinking outside the box. :thumb:

This really fits with the book as well. I can easily imagine Pete drawing something like this while sitting through another boring lecture.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=41700 CBR says that it's a line-wide variant, so I'm not sure what that means. I hope it means that it's pretty easy to get.
Means you get one for every 125 Valiant books you buy that month (regardless of title). If you broke it up evenly between the 5 titles a retailer would have to order 25 of each to get 1.
Not necessarily 125.

VEI had 1:50 X-O #6 as a line-wide.

If it's 1:50, then it would be 10 copies of the 5 titles (or any combination that adds up to 50).
The article said 1:125
Valiant's Harbinger #8 Lemire Linewide Variant is available to retailers who cumulatively order 125 copies or more of Valiant's January titles in any combination.
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BugsySig wrote:
greg wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
nutflush76 wrote:Image

I love this cover! I love how Valiant is thinking a little outside of the box with their Variant ideas rather than doing another sketch cover or just an alternate picture. I think that the Character design variants and this variant are great ideas that show that Valiant is thinking outside the box. :thumb:

This really fits with the book as well. I can easily imagine Pete drawing something like this while sitting through another boring lecture.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=41700 CBR says that it's a line-wide variant, so I'm not sure what that means. I hope it means that it's pretty easy to get.
Means you get one for every 125 Valiant books you buy that month (regardless of title). If you broke it up evenly between the 5 titles a retailer would have to order 25 of each to get 1.
Not necessarily 125.

VEI had 1:50 X-O #6 as a line-wide.

If it's 1:50, then it would be 10 copies of the 5 titles (or any combination that adds up to 50).
The article said 1:125
Valiant's Harbinger #8 Lemire Linewide Variant is available to retailers who cumulatively order 125 copies or more of Valiant's January titles in any combination.
which if it follows the latest X-O #6 pattern...means there will be 500 of them on every shelf....
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You mean 625, your math is a little off! Haha

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tchalla8 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
greg wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
nutflush76 wrote:Image

I love this cover! I love how Valiant is thinking a little outside of the box with their Variant ideas rather than doing another sketch cover or just an alternate picture. I think that the Character design variants and this variant are great ideas that show that Valiant is thinking outside the box. :thumb:

This really fits with the book as well. I can easily imagine Pete drawing something like this while sitting through another boring lecture.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=41700 CBR says that it's a line-wide variant, so I'm not sure what that means. I hope it means that it's pretty easy to get.
Means you get one for every 125 Valiant books you buy that month (regardless of title). If you broke it up evenly between the 5 titles a retailer would have to order 25 of each to get 1.
Not necessarily 125.

VEI had 1:50 X-O #6 as a line-wide.

If it's 1:50, then it would be 10 copies of the 5 titles (or any combination that adds up to 50).
The article said 1:125
Valiant's Harbinger #8 Lemire Linewide Variant is available to retailers who cumulatively order 125 copies or more of Valiant's January titles in any combination.
which if it follows the latest X-O #6 pattern...means there will be 500 of them on every shelf....
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If they stick with this as the line wide, I will be greatly disappointed. A Lemire cover is the kind of thing that could bring new readers in. AND those who like Lemire are likely to like these VEI books. So they could be getting this awesome cover in the faces of people who would immediately identify the artist on ANY shelf and are apt to pick it up and try a book they've never tried. Instead, it won't be on many, if any shelves.


IMO, if they stick with this as the line-wide, they've let a great opportunity slip by.

Although I understand the need for variants, IMO, they aren't using them as effectively and as efficiently as they should.
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You do have a bit of a point 400yrs.

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400yrs wrote:If they stick with this as the line wide, I will be greatly disappointed. A Lemire cover is the kind of thing that could bring new readers in. AND those who like Lemire are likely to like these VEI books. So they could be getting this awesome cover in the faces of people who would immediately identify the artist on ANY shelf and are apt to pick it up and try a book they've never tried. Instead, it won't be on many, if any shelves.


IMO, if they stick with this as the line-wide, they've let a great opportunity slip by.

Although I understand the need for variants, IMO, they aren't using them as effectively and as efficiently as they should.
Couldn't agree more. At least make it a 1:1 Pullbox.
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BugsySig wrote:
400yrs wrote:If they stick with this as the line wide, I will be greatly disappointed. A Lemire cover is the kind of thing that could bring new readers in. AND those who like Lemire are likely to like these VEI books. So they could be getting this awesome cover in the faces of people who would immediately identify the artist on ANY shelf and are apt to pick it up and try a book they've never tried. Instead, it won't be on many, if any shelves.


IMO, if they stick with this as the line-wide, they've let a great opportunity slip by.

Although I understand the need for variants, IMO, they aren't using them as effectively and as efficiently as they should.
Couldn't agree more. At least make it a 1:1 Pullbox.

Screw all the confusing stuff - 1:50, 1:25, line-wide, line-wide-limbo-while-you-order, cross-dress, pullbox stuff.

Just make this a 50/50 split and call it a day. I don't think the printer or diamond could screw that up.
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400yrs wrote:Just make this a 50/50 split and call it a day.
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:hm:

I very much enjoy Lemire's writing. His art, not nearly as much . . . .
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400yrs wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
400yrs wrote:If they stick with this as the line wide, I will be greatly disappointed. A Lemire cover is the kind of thing that could bring new readers in. AND those who like Lemire are likely to like these VEI books. So they could be getting this awesome cover in the faces of people who would immediately identify the artist on ANY shelf and are apt to pick it up and try a book they've never tried. Instead, it won't be on many, if any shelves.


IMO, if they stick with this as the line-wide, they've let a great opportunity slip by.

Although I understand the need for variants, IMO, they aren't using them as effectively and as efficiently as they should.
Couldn't agree more. At least make it a 1:1 Pullbox.

Screw all the confusing stuff - 1:50, 1:25, line-wide, line-wide-limbo-while-you-order, cross-dress, pullbox stuff.

Just make this a 50/50 split and call it a day. I don't think the printer or diamond could screw that up.
Good point on possibly wasting these on variants. I get that the variants drive the retailer to order more copies, but a great cover might pull in more readers who wouldn't have otherwise read the book before. That, and I would really like to not have to pay extra for this cover!

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On second thought, I think that this would be more of something Faith might draw considering she is something of a "superfan".

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How about, STOP THE VARIANTS ALL TOGETHER. Sure it is the "hip" thing in comics right now, but really, in 1977 (as a wee lad, and up until recently) you had one cover and what mattered most was inside. Valiant is doing a truly impressive job on what is inside. Just pick the best out of 4-5 cover submissions each month, make the rest posters, chase art, etc. and get on with it! (and please, do not make a card set :hope:

P.S. I DO LIKE THE BALLPOINT COVER !

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Paradigm38 wrote: in 1977 (as a wee lad, and up until recently) you had one cover and what mattered most was inside.
Nope. Star Wars #1 is from 1977, and what matters most is whether it is the 35cent variant cover. :P

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Paradigm38 wrote:How about, STOP THE VARIANTS ALL TOGETHER. Sure it is the "hip" thing in comics right now, but really, in 1977 (as a wee lad, and up until recently) you had one cover and what mattered most was inside. Valiant is doing a truly impressive job on what is inside. Just pick the best out of 4-5 cover submissions each month, make the rest posters, chase art, etc. and get on with it! (and please, do not make a card set :hope:

P.S. I DO LIKE THE BALLPOINT COVER !
You know, I kind of agree with you, but it's fun, it draws people in, and it it helps stores offset some costs. I like the line wide variant idea better than a regular 1:100 since you can split the order up among 5 different titles rather than have 100 copies of harbinger #8 sitting on shelves which just makes it look like nobody is buying the title.

I have no problem with the variant covers, although I rarely buy them, and when they are done right, they really make a book desireable. Well the variant at least.

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Paradigm38 wrote: in 1977 (as a wee lad, and up until recently) you had one cover and what mattered most was inside.
Nope. Star Wars #1 is from 1977, and what matters most is whether it is the 35cent variant cover. :P
Come to think of it aren't there a bunch of Marvel 35 cent variants? Also, what about Whitman variants? I'm sure there are more, but that's all I can think of.

Variants aren't really all that new. It's just that the comic companies finally learned how to exploit them!

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nutflush76 wrote:
greg wrote:
Paradigm38 wrote: in 1977 (as a wee lad, and up until recently) you had one cover and what mattered most was inside.
Nope. Star Wars #1 is from 1977, and what matters most is whether it is the 35cent variant cover. :P
Come to think of it aren't there a bunch of Marvel 35 cent variants? Also, what about Whitman variants? I'm sure there are more, but that's all I can think of.

Variants aren't really all that new. It's just that the comic companies finally learned how to exploit them!
Historically, variants were used to test how well a price increase was going to go over, or how well-received a logo change would be (I had a Justice League #3 with Superman logo at one point, which, to be fair, also had different cover art). They weren't created specifically with the gotta-have-them-all crowd in mind but rather to acquire marketing data.
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Didn,t know that :thumb:

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nutflush76 wrote:Image.
This has got to be the most simplistic, yet , amazing variant cover I've ever seen, love lemire's writing, and his art imo is best suited for creator owned characters, but this sh!t is hot and original, and just really spot on...
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My store wont buy 100 copies they would ask 3.00 each book and Im not paying 300.00 for a book unless its four color turok
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