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Fun read, but was it just me or did they switch the two women in the last page when they made their introductions?

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teedot42 wrote:Fun read, but was it just me or did they switch the two women in the last page when they made their introductions?
Yeah...that was a pretty big goof I wouldn't expect from Warren and the boys. And noticeable too, not something small.

The rest of the issue was excellent I thought. A bit of a bridge issue into the big confrontation with PRS next month, but it fleshed out the supporting ladies quite a bit and gave us some interesting back story.

Big questions for me: 1) If PRS sent in Bloodshot, why send in Pulse to kill him? And 2) Who's body did the nanites evolve in? Was it Rai? The Bleeding Monk? Bloodshot himself? :?
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teedot42 wrote:Fun read, but was it just me or did they switch the two women in the last page when they made their introductions?
Same here. A surprising editorial oversight.

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It seems like the cover was originally drawn with Bloodshot facing the other way.
If you look at the writing on the pant leg of the girl hanging from Bloodshot's eye you will see the lettering is backwards. I looked at it in the mirror and it says sport.
I don't think anybody else mentioned that when the cover was released a couple months back.

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Man Of The Atom wrote:It seems like the cover was originally drawn with Bloodshot facing the other way.
If you look at the writing on the pant leg of the girl hanging from Bloodshot's eye you will see the lettering is backwards. I looked at it in the mirror and it says sport.
I don't think anybody else mentioned that when the cover was released a couple months back.
Funny you mention that. I spent a few seconds trying to read the text on the leg before just getting into the book. Good catch.

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An excellent issue (The aforementioned editorial oversight aside).

I'm glad I stuck onboard with this title. The storyline's developing well, and we're getting a good supporting cast.

BugsySig wrote: Big questions for me: 1) If PRS sent in Bloodshot, why send in Pulse to kill him? ?
Good question. I might have to give the issue a re-read, but when I first read that part of the book I assumed Pulse was simply there to incapacitate Bloodshot (Although she was told she's killing him)......But then I realized, with the nullification of the nanites (Due to Pulse), a shot to the head would have killed him.

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yeah, big colorist *SQUEE* up. Not the end of the world I suppose. Good question why they sent Pulse in to kill BS. I was going with the assumption that maybe BS had gone rogue or maybe it was just a way for PRS to test Pulse. But at the expense of killing BS? Maybe they were worried that BS would get infected by the "Grey Goo" or it would communicate with him or something.

Also, I don't understand why the EMT girl (Kara) would join up with BS and Pulse on their assault of PRS. It was good of her to keep with BS as long as she did but she didn't have a life before he dropped into her world?

This book is still #2 for me even if this was a strange transition issue.
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Zaphod wrote: Also, I don't understand why the EMT girl (Kara) would join up with BS and Pulse on their assault of PRS. It was good of her to keep with BS as long as she did but she didn't have a life before he dropped into her world?

This book is still #2 for me even if this was a strange transition issue.

Maybe they're using the angle of Kara's relative being sick as the reason Kara is sticking with Bloodshot (As she believes Bloodshot's nanites could cure her relative). That, and maybe she feels involved, and possibly fears being targeted if she goes back out on her own.

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Zaphod wrote:yeah, big colorist *SQUEE* up.
If lettering and word bubbles are last, then the colorist is not the source of the problem.

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Really enjoyed this issue! Bloodshot is definitely one of the best of the new books...right up there with X-O IMHO. Cannot wait to read issue #5 next month! I will probably re-read issues 1-4 a couple times between now and then. :clap:
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greg wrote:
Zaphod wrote:yeah, big colorist *SQUEE* up.
If lettering and word bubbles are last, then the colorist is not the source of the problem.
ummmm, yeah. whathesaid.

though the faces are a bit different and it seems more like the colorist messed up, imo.
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greg wrote:
Zaphod wrote:yeah, big colorist *SQUEE* up.
If lettering and word bubbles are last, then the colorist is not the source of the problem.

Agreed. When I read it, I thought, man the letterer screwed that up.
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I think they are making a mistake by not differentiating the past from the present more. I know they use different artists and the coloring is a bit different and the black borders are for the present, but there still isn't enough differentiation. This is the first issue that I've really felt that way where I couldn't feel the break, but I know others have noticed that problem on past issues.

In Immortal Iron Fist, there was never a problem distinguishing past from present. The colors were very different. Between the past/present problems and the lettering botch, something is slipping in editorial on this book. Which is kind of a bummer because this is a great book.

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400yrs wrote:I think they are making a mistake by not differentiating the past from the present more. I know they use different artists and the coloring is a bit different and the black borders are for the present, but there still isn't enough differentiation. This is the first issue that I've really felt that way where I couldn't feel the break, but I know others have noticed that problem on past issues.

In Immortal Iron Fist, there was never a problem distinguishing past from present. The colors were very different. Between the past/present problems and the lettering botch, something is slipping in editorial on this book. Which is kind of a bummer because this is a great book.

3/5
I think the art is pretty clear cut different, but if it wasn't clear then seeing Pulse as a young girl instead of a grown teenager should be a clear marker.

That or the fact that it says, "Three Years Ago" and then a few pages later it says, "Now". :kidaround:
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BugsySig wrote:
400yrs wrote:I think they are making a mistake by not differentiating the past from the present more. I know they use different artists and the coloring is a bit different and the black borders are for the present, but there still isn't enough differentiation. This is the first issue that I've really felt that way where I couldn't feel the break, but I know others have noticed that problem on past issues.

In Immortal Iron Fist, there was never a problem distinguishing past from present. The colors were very different. Between the past/present problems and the lettering botch, something is slipping in editorial on this book. Which is kind of a bummer because this is a great book.

3/5
I think the art is pretty clear cut different, but if it wasn't clear then seeing Pulse as a young girl instead of a grown teenager should be a clear marker.

That or the fact that it says, "Three Years Ago" and then a few pages later it says, "Now". :kidaround:

Yeah, I know, but it should be cut and dry with no ambiguity at all. People like you and me will read it no matter what, but stuff like that will instantly turn off people on the fringe. Generally, flipping back and forth on a comic to make sure your mind is on the right timeline and that I didn't miss the "Now" is not a good thing and I had to do that this issue.
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400yrs wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
400yrs wrote:I think they are making a mistake by not differentiating the past from the present more. I know they use different artists and the coloring is a bit different and the black borders are for the present, but there still isn't enough differentiation. This is the first issue that I've really felt that way where I couldn't feel the break, but I know others have noticed that problem on past issues.

In Immortal Iron Fist, there was never a problem distinguishing past from present. The colors were very different. Between the past/present problems and the lettering botch, something is slipping in editorial on this book. Which is kind of a bummer because this is a great book.

3/5
I think the art is pretty clear cut different, but if it wasn't clear then seeing Pulse as a young girl instead of a grown teenager should be a clear marker.

That or the fact that it says, "Three Years Ago" and then a few pages later it says, "Now". :kidaround:

Yeah, I know, but it should be cut and dry with no ambiguity at all. People like you and me will read it no matter what, but stuff like that will instantly turn off people on the fringe. Generally, flipping back and forth on a comic to make sure your mind is on the right timeline and that I didn't miss the "Now" is not a good thing and I had to do that this issue.
It seems to me that you're reaching here. This isn't the first comic book to have a flashback. If you are paying attention to what you are reading, it's not that hard to follow.
If you aren't paying attention, what the hell are you doing? :?

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Blood of Heroes wrote:
400yrs wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
400yrs wrote:I think they are making a mistake by not differentiating the past from the present more. I know they use different artists and the coloring is a bit different and the black borders are for the present, but there still isn't enough differentiation. This is the first issue that I've really felt that way where I couldn't feel the break, but I know others have noticed that problem on past issues.

In Immortal Iron Fist, there was never a problem distinguishing past from present. The colors were very different. Between the past/present problems and the lettering botch, something is slipping in editorial on this book. Which is kind of a bummer because this is a great book.

3/5
I think the art is pretty clear cut different, but if it wasn't clear then seeing Pulse as a young girl instead of a grown teenager should be a clear marker.

That or the fact that it says, "Three Years Ago" and then a few pages later it says, "Now". :kidaround:

Yeah, I know, but it should be cut and dry with no ambiguity at all. People like you and me will read it no matter what, but stuff like that will instantly turn off people on the fringe. Generally, flipping back and forth on a comic to make sure your mind is on the right timeline and that I didn't miss the "Now" is not a good thing and I had to do that this issue.
It seems to me that you're reaching here. This isn't the first comic book to have a flashback. If you are paying attention to what you are reading, it's not that hard to follow.
If you aren't paying attention, what the hell are you doing? :?

Getting it together.

Comics that rely on flashbacks each issue (as does this one) usually have something a bit more distinguishing. The good Brubaker Cap. The Immortal Iron Fist - Flashback intense and easier to read (and thus more enjoyable). Just sayin'. :?
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400yrs wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:
400yrs wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
400yrs wrote:I think they are making a mistake by not differentiating the past from the present more. I know they use different artists and the coloring is a bit different and the black borders are for the present, but there still isn't enough differentiation. This is the first issue that I've really felt that way where I couldn't feel the break, but I know others have noticed that problem on past issues.

In Immortal Iron Fist, there was never a problem distinguishing past from present. The colors were very different. Between the past/present problems and the lettering botch, something is slipping in editorial on this book. Which is kind of a bummer because this is a great book.

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I think the art is pretty clear cut different, but if it wasn't clear then seeing Pulse as a young girl instead of a grown teenager should be a clear marker.

That or the fact that it says, "Three Years Ago" and then a few pages later it says, "Now". :kidaround:

Yeah, I know, but it should be cut and dry with no ambiguity at all. People like you and me will read it no matter what, but stuff like that will instantly turn off people on the fringe. Generally, flipping back and forth on a comic to make sure your mind is on the right timeline and that I didn't miss the "Now" is not a good thing and I had to do that this issue.
It seems to me that you're reaching here. This isn't the first comic book to have a flashback. If you are paying attention to what you are reading, it's not that hard to follow.
If you aren't paying attention, what the hell are you doing? :?

Getting it together.

Comics that rely on flashbacks each issue (as does this one) usually have something a bit more distinguishing. The good Brubaker Cap. The Immortal Iron Fist - Flashback intense and easier to read (and thus more enjoyable). Just sayin'. :?
I actually found IIF pretty confusing at times. Espescially the stuff with Danny's father in Kun Lun as a kid juxtaposed to flashbacks of Danny in Kun Lun as a kid...couldn't tell them apart. Of course it is still one of my favorite books of the past five years.

I haven't had an issue with that in Bloodshot yet, though. To me the two artists are pretty vastly different and that is enough for me, even without the captions.
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Zaphod wrote:Good question why they sent Pulse in to kill BS. I was going with the assumption that maybe BS had gone rogue or maybe it was just a way for PRS to test Pulse. But at the expense of killing BS?
He's totally off the reservation. Kuretich clued him in, he went berserk on the transport plane, killed a lot of agents and crashed it.

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jmatt wrote:
Zaphod wrote:Good question why they sent Pulse in to kill BS. I was going with the assumption that maybe BS had gone rogue or maybe it was just a way for PRS to test Pulse. But at the expense of killing BS?
He's totally off the reservation. Kuretich clued him in, he went berserk on the transport plane, killed a lot of agents and crashed it.
I think he meant why they sent her in the first time, as a child.

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400yrs wrote: Getting it together.
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400yrs wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
400yrs wrote:I think they are making a mistake by not differentiating the past from the present more. I know they use different artists and the coloring is a bit different and the black borders are for the present, but there still isn't enough differentiation. This is the first issue that I've really felt that way where I couldn't feel the break, but I know others have noticed that problem on past issues.

In Immortal Iron Fist, there was never a problem distinguishing past from present. The colors were very different. Between the past/present problems and the lettering botch, something is slipping in editorial on this book. Which is kind of a bummer because this is a great book.

3/5
I think the art is pretty clear cut different, but if it wasn't clear then seeing Pulse as a young girl instead of a grown teenager should be a clear marker.

That or the fact that it says, "Three Years Ago" and then a few pages later it says, "Now". :kidaround:

Yeah, I know, but it should be cut and dry with no ambiguity at all. People like you and me will read it no matter what, but stuff like that will instantly turn off people on the fringe. Generally, flipping back and forth on a comic to make sure your mind is on the right timeline and that I didn't miss the "Now" is not a good thing and I had to do that this issue.
I have to agree here. The timeline differentiation could be more distinct. I LOVE how they've treated flashbacks in Harbinger. They are immediately discernible as a different place and time. Yes, we loyal fans will dig deeper and figure out what's going on in bloodshot, but why make those fringe readers work harder to "get it"?
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Blood of Heroes wrote:
jmatt wrote:
Zaphod wrote:Good question why they sent Pulse in to kill BS. I was going with the assumption that maybe BS had gone rogue or maybe it was just a way for PRS to test Pulse. But at the expense of killing BS?
He's totally off the reservation. Kuretich clued him in, he went berserk on the transport plane, killed a lot of agents and crashed it.
I think he meant why they sent her in the first time, as a child.
That's right. Why, as a child, did they want pulse to kill BS? That's a pretty big question. He was doing PRS work, so why would PRS send in another agent to kill him? Time will tell.

All in all, this book is moving up in my mind. I really enjoyed it today!

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And Pulse's powers don't just work on machines, apparently. She can also toast people's heads up close. :o


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