Eternal Warrior - One of the Better Ideas

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:07 pm

When reading EW, the issues usually start with 2-3 pages of EW in the past. Usually, it's a significant event that Gilad experiences. For instance in issue #18, he ran into Judas right after he received the 30 pieces of silver.

Often, these opening pages in the past are my favorite part of the book. It's nearly always interesting. I'm actually a bit bummed when we come back to the present and it's not much more than EW fighting Darque or his henchmen or some other villains.

I think going back to the past is a great story-telling mechanism that shouldn't be restricted to only the first 2-3 pages of the issue. If you look at some of the truly great recent Marvel books like Captain America or Immortal Iron Fist, they are not afraid to use the past throughout the book.

The problem with EW in VH1 for me is that his past is intriguing, but in the present, he's only a fighter and not much else. Not a thinker who uses his past experience brilliantly..... in fact, he rarely ever mentions anything from his past in the current.

If VEI can find a writer who can use the past and write him as a strong character in the present, they may have something exciting. I'm surprised this wasn't picked up as a movie option rather than Harbinger.

The coloring should be a bit different as well looking at the past. Marvel often uses different artists and colorist for past sequences.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:02 pm

Agreed! EW was a fun read and the historical aspects was very interesting.

Yes, a EW movie would be a lot of fun. Someone get cracking on writing this one

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:46 pm

Highlander.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:49 pm

I always enjoyed how EW was ALWAYS at some crucial point in history and NOT in a Forest Gump style either. The past was always in relation to something in the current story and it worked out great.

Wasn't those original 30 pieces of silver part of a major story line at some point ? Necromatic energy or something ?

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:52 pm

ya it was when darque was feeding in La or something

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:18 pm

ckb wrote:Highlander.

True. I never saw it though. Any good?

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:19 pm

Knightt wrote:I always enjoyed how EW was ALWAYS at some crucial point in history and NOT in a Forest Gump style either. The past was always in relation to something in the current story and it worked out great.

Wasn't those original 30 pieces of silver part of a major story line at some point ? Necromatic energy or something ?

yep. Started in 16 or 17. It's Daque and his goons vs. EW and Geoff looking for the coins.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:24 pm

400yrs wrote:
Knightt wrote:I always enjoyed how EW was ALWAYS at some crucial point in history and NOT in a Forest Gump style either. The past was always in relation to something in the current story and it worked out great.

Wasn't those original 30 pieces of silver part of a major story line at some point ? Necromatic energy or something ?
yep. Started in 16 or 17. It's Daque and his goons vs. EW and Geoff looking for the coins.

And THAT is what I liked about it... present day story, grounded in history (or whomever re-wrote that history)

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:43 pm

400yrs wrote:
If VEI can find a writer who can use the past and write him as a strong character in the present, they may have something exciting. I'm surprised this wasn't picked up as a movie option rather than Harbinger.

It would need to be someone who had a depth of knowledge of American and World history. Maybe even a history teacher. I wish I knew one that also loved Valiant comics.

....... where can we find one?

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:15 am

Elveen wrote:
400yrs wrote:
If VEI can find a writer who can use the past and write him as a strong character in the present, they may have something exciting. I'm surprised this wasn't picked up as a movie option rather than Harbinger.

It would need to be someone who had a depth of knowledge of American and World history. Maybe even a history teacher. I wish I knew one that also loved Valiant comics.

....... where can we find one?

And he needs to be REALLY tall...

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:24 pm

Knightt wrote:
Elveen wrote:
400yrs wrote:
If VEI can find a writer who can use the past and write him as a strong character in the present, they may have something exciting. I'm surprised this wasn't picked up as a movie option rather than Harbinger.

It would need to be someone who had a depth of knowledge of American and World history. Maybe even a history teacher. I wish I knew one that also loved Valiant comics.

....... where can we find one?
And he needs to be REALLY tall...

Seems like there has to be at least one of these around here

THAT would be a cool project to work on

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:25 pm

I liked what Ostrander did in terms of showing the effects of Gils history on his present. As for somebody steeped in history...Elveen isn't the only one here. I guess its fisticuffs to determine the winner, lol.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:30 pm

400yrs wrote:
ckb wrote:Highlander.
True. I never saw it though. Any good?

The first movie was great, but the rest were just mediocre. Didn't watch too much of the TV series, so can't really comment on it much.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:57 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
400yrs wrote:
ckb wrote:Highlander.
True. I never saw it though. Any good?
The first movie was great, but the rest were just mediocre. Didn't watch too much of the TV series, so can't really comment on it much.

. Until the last season and a half, I found the series not only excellent but the best Highlander material out there.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:48 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
400yrs wrote:
ckb wrote:Highlander.
True. I never saw it though. Any good?
The first movie was great, but the rest were just mediocre. Didn't watch too much of the TV series, so can't really comment on it much.

Yes, if you haven't seen the original movie you should grab it. If you can find the version with the extra WW2 scenes that explain the origin of his secretary, Rachel, it adds a nice twist to the film.

It was my favorite film for a long time.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:06 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:The first movie was great, but the rest were just mediocre.

There could be only one Highlander movie.

/Magnus

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:21 am

magnusr wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:The first movie was great, but the rest were just mediocre.
There could be only one Highlander movie.

/Magnus

Hahaha...I was wondering when someone would say it......

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:05 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
magnusr wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:The first movie was great, but the rest were just mediocre.
There could be only one Highlander movie.

/Magnus
Hahaha...I was wondering when someone would say it......

Indeed, see the first one and then quit... If you see the others you will only be wasting time and you willbe disappointed at home the took a great concept and really messed it up.

The TV series was pretty good too.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:43 pm

IanAlexavier wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
magnusr wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:The first movie was great, but the rest were just mediocre.
There could be only one Highlander movie.

/Magnus
Hahaha...I was wondering when someone would say it......

Indeed, see the first one and then quit... If you see the others you will only be wasting time and you willbe disappointed at home the took a great concept and really messed it up.

Yeah, it's almost unbelievable how bad they got.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:26 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
IanAlexavier wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
magnusr wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:The first movie was great, but the rest were just mediocre.
There could be only one Highlander movie.

/Magnus
Hahaha...I was wondering when someone would say it......

Indeed, see the first one and then quit... If you see the others you will only be wasting time and you willbe disappointed at home the took a great concept and really messed it up.

Yeah, it's almost unbelievable how bad they got.

Indeed. "The Source" is so bad that a friend and I decided to call any truly rotten film or tv show "sourceable"...if that lets you know what I think of that steaming pile of crap.

dave · Post by **dave** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:21 pm

400yrs wrote: I think going back to the past is a great story-telling mechanism that shouldn't be restricted to only the first 2-3 pages of the issue. If you look at some of the truly great recent Marvel books like Captain America or Immortal Iron Fist, they are not afraid to use the past throughout the book.

The problem with EW in *VALIANT (1991-1996)* for me is that his past is intriguing, but in the present, he's only a fighter and not much else. Not a thinker who uses his past experience brilliantly..... in fact, he rarely ever mentions anything from his past in the current.

100%!

When Gil is introduced in Solar though, he does seem to be very much a product of his past. He appeared to be a walking Art of War encyclopedia and then they went completely away from that aspect of his character.

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:27 pm

Elveen wrote:
400yrs wrote:
If VEI can find a writer who can use the past and write him as a strong character in the present, they may have something exciting. I'm surprised this wasn't picked up as a movie option rather than Harbinger.

It would need to be someone who had a depth of knowledge of American and World history. Maybe even a history teacher. I wish I knew one that also loved Valiant comics.

....... where can we find one?

xodacia81 isn't a teacher but he's enough of an historian to count, I suppose.

ilan · Post by **ilan** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:34 pm

ckb wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
400yrs wrote:
ckb wrote:Highlander.
True. I never saw it though. Any good?
The first movie was great, but the rest were just mediocre. Didn't watch too much of the TV series, so can't really comment on it much.
Yes, if you haven't seen the original movie you should grab it. If you can find the version with the extra WW2 scenes that explain the origin of his secretary, Rachel, it adds a nice twist to the film.

It was my favorite film for a long time.

Yes I believe that is the directors cut, much better than the theatrical version. Great flick, loved the segues to the scenes in the past. And Queen did the music too, lights out. EW creators must've been thinking about Connor MacLeod at some point. I believe Highlander the series started airing around when EW 1 came out .. hmmm ....

chisumwomack · Post by **chisumwomack** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:05 am

It won an Academy Award. For best movie ever made.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:24 am

chisumwomack wrote:It won an Academy Award. For best movie ever made.

Hahah....is that a new category?

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