Predator vs Magnus Original Art - WOW!

[Crow331]

Wow, does this look awesome or what??

Dave Dorman - For Sale $3,500

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiec ... GSub=78979

[iggy101us]

[jay]

Good looking art.

[Brother J]

ok, I'm a pretty frugal guy, but if I had $3,500 to spare, I'd buy that!

[Crow331]

I was never a fan of this cover when it came out. That's because the printed cover did not do this painting justice.

I really love it. Amazing work!

The King Kong one with the plane is another amazing painting, if you take a look at Dave's gallery.

[Daniel Jackson]

Awesome work of art and hefty price tag to match.

[magnusr]

ok, I'm a pretty frugal guy, but if I had $3,500 to spare, I'd buy that!

+1

/Magnus

[JustCallMeAric]

That price tag makes me think that he doesn't really want to sell it

[robb77]

very cool

[Lightning Strike]

Wow, does this look awesome or what??

Dave Dorman - For Sale $3,500

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiec ... GSub=78979

That is freaking cool!

[dave]

Some guy named Dan is asking questions about it...hmmm

[sonicdan]

I wonder who that is!?
DAN

[comicsyte95]

ok, I'm a pretty frugal guy, but if I had $3,500 to spare, I'd buy that!

+1

/Magnus

+2

[Crow331]

Compared to other prices currently floating out there from artists, I don't think this price is that unreasonable. For a half a second, I considered buying it, but then I came to my senses

If anyone is seriously considering it, I would think that it could be had for $3K if you ask him nicely

[Lightning Strike]

Compared to other prices currently floating out there from artists, I don't think this price is that unreasonable.

Agreed! I haven't bought anything that pricey, but if I did and I had the money to do it, this would be the item. That thing is smoking cool!

[jay]

Its hard to price this one in my opinion and I'm not a potential buyer for it. Its a little outside the Valiant canon. I could definately see someone justifying pulling the trigger if it was in the 1500 to 2K range as good as it looks with its crossover appeal and if it is oversized artwork. It has carryover appeal to another genre and also has appeal from the goldkey magnus standpoint (not to mention valiant). $3500 is still high for me to consider it from a purely Valiant cover standpoint.

What do you folks think? $1500 definately sounds like a decent price for the original art and $2500 on the high side to me. I personally would take an early Magnus cover over this one though (someone on here knows which one I'm talking about).

[Lightning Strike]

Its hard to price this one in my opinion and I'm not a potential buyer for it. Its a little outside the Valiant canon. I could definately see someone justifying pulling the trigger if it was in the 1500 to 2K range as good as it looks with its crossover appeal and if it is oversized artwork. It has carryover appeal to another genre and also has appeal from the goldkey magnus standpoint (not to mention valiant). $3500 is still high for me to consider it from a purely Valiant cover standpoint.

What do you folks think? $1500 definately sounds like a decent price for the original art and $2500 on the high side to me. I personally would take an early Magnus cover over this one though (someone on here knows which one I'm talking about).

I thinks it's definitely worth at least $2500 but probably closer to $3000

[jay]

Its hard to price this one in my opinion and I'm not a potential buyer for it. Its a little outside the Valiant canon. I could definately see someone justifying pulling the trigger if it was in the 1500 to 2K range as good as it looks with its crossover appeal and if it is oversized artwork. It has carryover appeal to another genre and also has appeal from the goldkey magnus standpoint (not to mention valiant). $3500 is still high for me to consider it from a purely Valiant cover standpoint.

What do you folks think? $1500 definately sounds like a decent price for the original art and $2500 on the high side to me. I personally would take an early Magnus cover over this one though (someone on here knows which one I'm talking about).

I thinks it's definitely worth at least $2500 but probably closer to $3000

This is the what topics on this board should be, solid discussions about art and price (thanks lightning ) That said, based on what? Its not pre-unity or even an early cover. It isn't by a valiant mainstay artist. Lapham was selling Harbinger covers for less than this not too long back, which were some of the last big time early covers that have come out.
Also, one of the last early covers I picked up was not too long ago and in another title run and it was significantly under this price. This one appears to be painted, so the closest Valiant artwork for reference would be the Colon pages, which granted are not covers, but again, price wise are not in the same range. Being painted, arguably could up the price, but again, its a trade cover, and somewhat outside of the normal continuity. If there is a buyer that sees it as a must have, then any price is reasonable, I just can't see valuing it at $3000 for Valiant collecting. I think $2500 would be the upper limit of valuation and $1500 to $2000 would be closer to the right ballpark.

Again, lets get some more thoughts. Lightning change my mind and/or tell me why I am wrong.

[magnusrobot12]

an original oil for $3500 is not that bad. i know its expensive but art is subjective and, in the grand scale of things, 3500 is not a lot of money for original art. If you like magnus and predator, this will be your cup of tea.

[Crow331]

Exactly ... do a search around for ANY "painted" covers and you will find them all in this price range or more. Add in the fact that it's Dave Dorman, a fairly popular artist who has most of his art in this range, and if it's Star Wars, much higher than this even!

Add in the re-launch of Magnus and the buzz going around the new Dark Horse books in general and I can certainly see why this price is fair. I almost would pay it, but not quite. I also think that, like most artists, this piece can be haggled lower, especially since I don't think it's any coincidence that he's trying to sell it now, hoping to maximize it's value with the Magnus re-launch.

[jay]

So the medium/painted nature of the art is pushing the price up by 4 to 5 times price? I agree that if someone wants to buy a piece and it is a must have, that any price is reasonable. Either the quality of artwork, the medium, the artist, the subject, or the time period pushes the price of a page. It looks like to me that the the fact that it is painted is the driving force on desirability on this page.

I was taking into account it being a painted cover in my price estimation. If it was a pencil and ink cover, mid 1994, I think the range would be closer to $400 to $600, maybe $650/750 if you were in a bidding war on feebay. i think the painted nature of the cover adds about a grand to that price. I don't think it carries it up 2 grand. I would rather have a pre-Malev war Magnus cover than the painted cover.

[Lightning Strike]

Its hard to price this one in my opinion and I'm not a potential buyer for it. Its a little outside the Valiant canon. I could definately see someone justifying pulling the trigger if it was in the 1500 to 2K range as good as it looks with its crossover appeal and if it is oversized artwork. It has carryover appeal to another genre and also has appeal from the goldkey magnus standpoint (not to mention valiant). $3500 is still high for me to consider it from a purely Valiant cover standpoint.

What do you folks think? $1500 definately sounds like a decent price for the original art and $2500 on the high side to me. I personally would take an early Magnus cover over this one though (someone on here knows which one I'm talking about).

I thinks it's definitely worth at least $2500 but probably closer to $3000

This is the what topics on this board should be, solid discussions about art and price (thanks lightning ) That said, based on what? Its not pre-unity or even an early cover. It isn't by a valiant mainstay artist. Lapham was selling Harbinger covers for less than this not too long back, which were some of the last big time early covers that have come out.
Also, one of the last early covers I picked up was not too long ago and in another title run and it was significantly under this price. This one appears to be painted, so the closest Valiant artwork for reference would be the Colon pages, which granted are not covers, but again, price wise are not in the same range. Being painted, arguably could up the price, but again, its a trade cover, and somewhat outside of the normal continuity. If there is a buyer that sees it as a must have, then any price is reasonable, I just can't see valuing it at $3000 for Valiant collecting. I think $2500 would be the upper limit of valuation and $1500 to $2000 would be closer to the right ballpark.

Again, lets get some more thoughts. Lightning change my mind and/or tell me why I am wrong.

I'll try

First, it's a painted cover to a rare tpb by an excellent artist.

Second, it not only is coveted by Valiant fans, but also by sci-fi/Predator fans, so it covers a larger collector fan base.

[jay]

Again, great discusion guys, keep it going.

[jay]

Good points Lightning. I think if anything, the larger collector base of Predator/sci fi folks and the relaunch is an argument for the price being pushed above $2000, especially with a new movie in the works and the new Darkhorse comics coming out.

Crow, spot on about painted art that has been published increasing the value and the fact that it is by an artist who is known. I don't know if this pushes the art up that high though and star wars art opens a whole new can of worms when it comes to collectors.

Keep em coming!

[magnusr]

Good points Lightning. I think if anything, the larger collector base of Predator/sci fi folks and the relaunch is an argument for the price being pushed above $2000, especially with a new movie in the works and the new Darkhorse comics coming out.

Crow, spot on about painted art that has been published increasing the value and the fact that it is by an artist who is known. I don't know if this pushes the art up that high though and star wars art opens a whole new can of worms when it comes to collectors.

Keep em coming!

Great points all. Can add that this is an image that has been used a lot. But in the end it all comes down to what someone is willing to pay. Most artists sell their art at market value. They get all their art sold and depending on all the factors mentioned above they hopefully make a bunch of money. Others, like Dave Dorman, set their price and get to keep a lot of their art. Sometimes it's a money-losing tactic, sometimes the contrary, but it is their choice.

Then there is only a straight-forward question for the potential customer - is it worth it to me? All the factors mentioned above decides the possible resale value, which can be good to know as an emergency fall-back, but primarily it is about what the buyer has to give up to get the art (except if one wants to count on the risk of the artist changing his tactic in the future which might lead to the frustrating situation of having bought at the highest price the art will ever see).

For me, this piece of art is worth it and I have now reserved it. It will eat my art budget for a long, long time, but I got a payment plan that works for me. I'm happy Thanks for the link, Crow.

/Magnus