Chaos Effect

Foxtrot · Post by **Foxtrot** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:03:39 am

Hi all.

Most of my Valiant books go up to around the time of Chaos Effect. Which I felt was a good cutting off point. Dr Mirage I think goes past this as I really did enjoy that story.

Was wondering what series you could recommend to continue reading after Chaos Effect? Have to admit for me Solar and X-O were running out of steam a little before this crossover. Still enjoying Shadowman though and this would be one title I would look into buying some more issues past issue 28.

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:40:13 am

Other than Dr Mirage, Bloodshot was the only title I have read past CE. That was quite cool.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:49:35 am

Drift wrote:Other than Dr Mirage, Bloodshot was the only title I have read past CE. That was quite cool.

Agreed BloodShot for sure, I hear Shadowman is good to the end too, I still need to read that myself.

tmcneil82 · Post by **tmcneil82** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:42:08 am

AA, Bloodshot, Eternal Warrior, Shadowman

Solar and X-O are good for a WTF laugh

myron · Post by **myron** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:46:19 am

Drift wrote:Other than Dr Mirage, Bloodshot was the only title I have read past CE. That was quite cool.

Shadowman held up and I found Timewalker readable...EW had it's moments but some of the art was horrible...

JonesyAZ · Post by **JonesyAZ** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:08:41 am

myron wrote:
Drift wrote:Other than Dr Mirage, Bloodshot was the only title I have read past CE. That was quite cool.
Shadowman held up and I found Timewalker readable...EW had it's moments but some of the art was horrible...

I agree about the EW artwork; Paul Gulacy had his on and off moments, for sure. Still, I didn't find the art as bad as some of the later Visitor issues...yikes!

I would agree with the recommendations thus far, Foxtrot. Shadowman, Bloodshot, even Magnus for a little while...

I would say if you have the cash, try to at least read everything you can, but the recommendations are spot-on

I have a soft spot for H.A.R.D. Corps and Psi-Lords though...but they definitely aren't the best reads post-Chaos

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:06:14 am

tmcneil82 wrote:
Solar and X-O are good for a WTF laugh

Yeah, at least they are good for something....

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:23:46 am

bloodshot and mirage are the best after that point

myron · Post by **myron** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:45:02 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
tmcneil82 wrote:
Solar and X-O are good for a WTF laugh
Yeah, at least they are good for something....

low grade TP

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:31:58 am

myron wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
tmcneil82 wrote:
Solar and X-O are good for a WTF laugh
Yeah, at least they are good for something....
low grade TP

Hahahaha

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:36:25 am

Shadowman was very good until the end. I actually liked the end on Ninjak. And EW was good also.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:23:05 pm

So many opinions and when it comes down to it, this revolves around what you will enjoy. I can say without hesitation to read EVERYTHING. You might find great things within those pages and some others you will be disappointed. Everyone's read on the Valiant Universe is varied, so it is up to YOU to decide what was good and bad for 'you'.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:33:39 pm

JonesyAZ wrote: I have a soft spot for H.A.R.D. Corps and Psi-Lords though...but they definitely aren't the best reads post-Chaos

Me too.

I think Eternal Warrior and Bloodshot, and Turok held up quite well. Solar, Magnus, A&A, not so much.

I also thought Harbinger's cancellation was pretty merciful. It never got to the point where it was sucking terribly hard, but it almost did.

dave · Post by **dave** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:15:38 pm

The fun of reading everything, is you can post on the re-reading Valiant section and discuss how bad some of these were.

I just read my first Birthquake issue ever, and it was Magnus 49. It an improvement over the two issues that preceded it.

Some of the stuff is so bad that it's legendary!

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:33:36 pm

I stopped at Chaos Effect as well...

-slym

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:37:26 pm

tmcneil82 wrote:AA, Bloodshot, Eternal Warrior, Shadowman

Solar and X-O are good for a WTF laugh

Or, along with Magnus, a cry...although the "Geomancer" story in Magnus was damn cool.

dave · Post by **dave** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:40:04 pm

The four part Geomancer's Quest? If that's what you're referring to I just read it, and hated it! Good idea, poor execution.

Not to mention, Armstrong shows up, and then disappears again. He hasn't been in the next two books, or has it been three?

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:35:41 pm

dave wrote:The four part Geomancer's Quest? If that's what you're referring to I just read it, and hated it! Good idea, poor execution.

Not to mention, Armstrong shows up, and then disappears again. He hasn't been in the next two books, or has it been three?

Awww, I LOVED that story. There were plans for more, but...then Birthquake happened

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:44:33 pm

OK, maybe I'm confused but several people mentioned Archer & Armstrong as a not-so-good read after Chaos Effect. Didn't A&A end at Chaos Effect (i.e., A&A 26 the Chaos Effect issue was the last issue of A&A)?

So unless there was an extremely subtle joke that I missed, A&A was a non-existent read after Chaos Effect.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:50:52 pm

Steve Topper wrote:OK, maybe I'm confused but several people mentioned Archer & Armstrong as a not-so-good read after Chaos Effect. Didn't A&A end at Chaos Effect (i.e., A&A 26 the Chaos Effect issue was the last issue of A&A)?

So unless there was an extremely subtle joke that I missed, A&A was a non-existent read after Chaos Effect.

# 26 was indeed the last A&A...

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:52:10 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
Steve Topper wrote:OK, maybe I'm confused but several people mentioned Archer & Armstrong as a not-so-good read after Chaos Effect. Didn't A&A end at Chaos Effect (i.e., A&A 26 the Chaos Effect issue was the last issue of A&A)?

So unless there was an extremely subtle joke that I missed, A&A was a non-existent read after Chaos Effect.
# 26 was indeed the last A&A...

Hence no-so-good read after that

Foxtrot · Post by **Foxtrot** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:33:24 pm

Thanks for the recommendations. Will definitely keep going with some more Shadowman books. Out of all the Valiant series I read, that book was the most consistent, always an entertaining read.

dave · Post by **dave** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:11:24 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
Steve Topper wrote: So unless there was an extremely subtle joke that I missed, A&A was a non-existent read after Chaos Effect.
# 26 was indeed the last A&A...

Which is why it was so bad...

tmcneil82 · Post by **tmcneil82** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:29:33 pm

Tim wrote: I also thought Harbinger's cancellation was pretty merciful. It never got to the point where it was sucking terribly hard, but it almost did.

Really? Seriously? Zephyr was the main character for crying out loud. It was like the EIC was messing with the writer and told him not to use any good characters. Secret weapons had a better team by this point, and was a much better read. No one, ever, should be able to say that Secret Weapons was better than Harbinger, at any point, ever.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:38:43 am

tmcneil82 wrote:Really? Seriously? Zephyr was the main character for crying out loud. It was like the EIC was messing with the writer and told him not to use any good characters. Secret weapons had a better team by this point, and was a much better read. No one, ever, should be able to say that Secret Weapons was better than Harbinger, at any point, ever.

Well, Zephyr *did* lead the Harbinger resistance. So she had to develop leadership skills somewhere, right? It made logical sense; she just wasn't that interesting a main character, to me.