Just read the X-O/Solar "Seed of Destruction" stor

JonesyAZ · Post by **JonesyAZ** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:57 pm

I have to say that I really enjoyed this crossover, "Seed of Destruction" in the early X-O and Solar books. What really moved me about this story-arc was that I really felt sorry for the Spider Aliens. I know they are a race that has done a lot of damage for the Valiant universe, but given the fact that they wanted Shanhara's seed to create a spaceship to go home, and that Solar destroyed them all...it just made me feel really bad...hahahaha.

Has anyone else felt that way, or were you pretty happy with the Spider-Aliens getting their butts handed to them?

Man, if Valiant's stories keep being as good as this and the early Harbinger run, i'm definitely going to be a fan for life!

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:05 pm

JonesyAZ wrote:I have to say that I really enjoyed this crossover, "Seed of Destruction" in the early X-O and Solar books. What really moved me about this story-arc was that I really felt sorry for the Spider Aliens. I know they are a race that has done a lot of damage for the Valiant universe, but given the fact that they wanted Shanhara's seed to create a spaceship to go home, and that Solar destroyed them all...it just made me feel really bad...hahahaha.

Has anyone else felt that way, or were you pretty happy with the Spider-Aliens getting their butts handed to them?

Man, if Valiant's stories keep being as good as this and the early Harbinger run, i'm definitely going to be a fan for life!

If you read all the pre Unity books then you will be a fan for life.
What happens a few years down the line however may not

luckily though the quality of the first few years worth will stave away your desire to sell it all upon completion of reading and you will live happily ever after.

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:51 pm

early Solar especially! Loved that stuff, such a well constructed narrative in the first 10 or so issues!

Enjoy man, but as Draco said don't let the much later stuff bring you down.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:06 pm

the pre unity stuff is almost all gold

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:00 pm

superman-prime wrote:the pre unity stuff is almost all gold

Not almost!

Was there anything pre-unity you didnt like?

sanman · Post by **sanman** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:18 pm

JonesyAZ wrote:Man, if Valiant's stories keep being as good as this and the early Harbinger run, i'm definitely going to be a fan for life!

Sounds like you're new to the Valiant Universe--welcome.

I think tracking down a Unity set (as well as the rest of the PreUnity books) will be a real treat for you. The early Valiant runs helped cement my weekly enthusiasm for comics as a teen.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:46 pm

JonesyAZ wrote:I have to say that I really enjoyed this crossover, "Seed of Destruction" in the early X-O and Solar books. What really moved me about this story-arc was that I really felt sorry for the Spider Aliens. I know they are a race that has done a lot of damage for the Valiant universe, but given the fact that they wanted Shanhara's seed to create a spaceship to go home, and that Solar destroyed them all...it just made me feel really bad...hahahaha.

I'm sure Sven would appreciate your sentiments.....

hulk181man · Post by **hulk181man** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:52 am

JonesyAZ wrote:I have to say that I really enjoyed this crossover, "Seed of Destruction" in the early X-O and Solar books. What really moved me about this story-arc was that I really felt sorry for the Spider Aliens. I know they are a race that has done a lot of damage for the Valiant universe, but given the fact that they wanted Shanhara's seed to create a spaceship to go home, and that Solar destroyed them all...it just made me feel really bad...hahahaha.

Has anyone else felt that way, or were you pretty happy with the Spider-Aliens getting their butts handed to them?

Man, if Valiant's stories keep being as good as this and the early Harbinger run, i'm definitely going to be a fan for life!

Welcome to Valiant - enjoy the ride.

Speaking of X-O and seed stories, there was a Solar crossover in X-O 30 I always enjoyed. Plus the cover ranks among my favorites.

bamaphilosopher · Post by **bamaphilosopher** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:36 pm

I agree with everyone else about pre-Unity and Unity. Some of the best comics ever. By anyone.

In X-O, when they killed Shanhara (they went for sensationalism rather than story), alas, they started a downward spiral that got worse and worse, through killing off their best supporting characters (on a title that desperately needed supporting characters), to the X-O bike, to the Dallas dream-like ending, with some great art by Bart Sears and others but *SQUEE*-poor stories. It was a very unfortunate ending to what otherwise had been a fantastic comic.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:57 pm

bamaphilosopher wrote:
In X-O, when they killed Shanhara (they went for sensationalism rather than story), alas, they started a downward spiral that got worse and worse, through killing off their best supporting characters (on a title that desperately needed supporting characters), to the X-O bike, to the Dallas dream-like ending, with some great art by Bart Sears and others but *SQUEE*-poor stories. It was a very unfortunate ending to what otherwise had been a fantastic comic.

Totally agree with that.

Looking back it's hard to believe how fast Valiant managed to unravel just about every good thing Shooter accomplished. Sometimes I think Layton and Massarski just went out their way to do things just the opposite of what Jim would have done.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:31 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
bamaphilosopher wrote:
In X-O, when they killed Shanhara (they went for sensationalism rather than story), alas, they started a downward spiral that got worse and worse, through killing off their best supporting characters (on a title that desperately needed supporting characters), to the X-O bike, to the Dallas dream-like ending, with some great art by Bart Sears and others but *SQUEE*-poor stories. It was a very unfortunate ending to what otherwise had been a fantastic comic.
Totally agree with that.

Looking back it's hard to believe how fast Valiant managed to unravel just about every good thing Shooter accomplished. Sometimes I think Layton and Massarski just went out their way to do things just the opposite of what Jim would have done.

And that’s why I don’t own a complete run on any title. Most of my runs end around the serial number contest.

Today, however, I was in a LCS that I don’t frequent very often with several VH1 era books a 25 cent bin. Most of which had the later Acclaim V logo.

I plan to go back Wednesday with my check list. Any great finds would have been bought today, but I didn't have that much time to look.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:58 pm

sanman wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
bamaphilosopher wrote:
In X-O, when they killed Shanhara (they went for sensationalism rather than story), alas, they started a downward spiral that got worse and worse, through killing off their best supporting characters (on a title that desperately needed supporting characters), to the X-O bike, to the Dallas dream-like ending, with some great art by Bart Sears and others but *SQUEE*-poor stories. It was a very unfortunate ending to what otherwise had been a fantastic comic.
Totally agree with that.

Looking back it's hard to believe how fast Valiant managed to unravel just about every good thing Shooter accomplished. Sometimes I think Layton and Massarski just went out their way to do things just the opposite of what Jim would have done.
And that’s why I don’t own a complete run on any title. Most of my runs end around the serial number contest.

Today, however, I was in a LCS that I don’t frequent very often with several *VALIANT (1991-1996)* era books a 25 cent bin. Most of which had the later Acclaim V logo.

I plan to go back Wednesday with my check list. Any great finds would have been bought today, but I didn't have that much time to look.

The later books are pretty bad, I can't blame someone for not being interested in collecting them. But for a quarter a piece, it would be hard to pass that up.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:12 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:The later books are pretty bad, I can't blame someone for not being interested in collecting them. But for a quarter a piece, it would be hard to pass that up.

That’s what I’m thinking too. I did see a Unity 0, Unity Lost Chapter, and Visitor 13 that will be fun to pick up at the very least. I wanted to grab them today but I didn’t have any cash or enough time to go an ATM. I’ll let you guys know how I do...

JonesyAZ · Post by **JonesyAZ** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:24 pm

bamaphilosopher wrote:I agree with everyone else about pre-Unity and Unity. Some of the best comics ever. By anyone.

In X-O, when they killed Shanhara (they went for sensationalism rather than story), alas, they started a downward spiral that got worse and worse, through killing off their best supporting characters (on a title that desperately needed supporting characters), to the X-O bike, to the Dallas dream-like ending, with some great art by Bart Sears and others but *SQUEE*-poor stories. It was a very unfortunate ending to what otherwise had been a fantastic comic.

They killed Shanhara? Aw, BUMMER!!! What issue did that happen in?

Also, now that i've read the X-O "Retribution" trade paperback, I don't feel so bad for the Spider Aliens after all...lol.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:22 pm

JonesyAZ wrote:
bamaphilosopher wrote:I agree with everyone else about pre-Unity and Unity. Some of the best comics ever. By anyone.

In X-O, when they killed Shanhara (they went for sensationalism rather than story), alas, they started a downward spiral that got worse and worse, through killing off their best supporting characters (on a title that desperately needed supporting characters), to the X-O bike, to the Dallas dream-like ending, with some great art by Bart Sears and others but *SQUEE*-poor stories. It was a very unfortunate ending to what otherwise had been a fantastic comic.
They killed Shanhara? Aw, BUMMER!!! What issue did that happen in?

#28. It's the one with a naked Aric on the cover with pieces of the armor scattered all over.

JonesyAZ · Post by **JonesyAZ** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:08 pm

I think that's the highest numbered issue I own so far. So, what happens after Shanhara dies? Does X-O get the seedling?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:20 pm

JonesyAZ wrote:I think that's the highest numbered issue I own so far. So, what happens after Shanhara dies? Does X-O get the seedling?

Solar gets a mature seed for Aric from another X-O he defeated in a previous battle.

dave · Post by **dave** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:24 pm

Don't tell! Make him read it!

It's fun watching a new reader.

JonesyAZ · Post by **JonesyAZ** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:30 pm

Hahahahahaha...hey, I asked. In hindsight, I wish I didn't, cuz I spoiled myself. Ah well

So seriously...has anyone else ever felt bad for the Spider Aliens?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:33 pm

Not really.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:49 pm

JonesyAZ wrote:Hahahahahaha...hey, I asked. In hindsight, I wish I didn't, cuz I spoiled myself. Ah well

So seriously...has anyone else ever felt bad for the Spider Aliens?

Only Sven.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:02 am

sanman wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:The later books are pretty bad, I can't blame someone for not being interested in collecting them. But for a quarter a piece, it would be hard to pass that up.
That’s what I’m thinking too. I did see a Unity 0, Unity Lost Chapter, and Visitor 13 that will be fun to pick up at the very least. I wanted to grab them today but I didn’t have any cash or enough time to go an ATM. I’ll let you guys know how I do...

Went back to the shop Wednesday afternoon and I saw maybe 100 Valiant comics. Most of which were mid VH.1 issues but I bought 20 comics. I consecutively extended the following runs: Harbinger, X-O, HARD Corps, Magnus, and Solar.

Other than that, I picked up Unity #0, The Lost Unity Chapter, Turok #0, and Visitor #13. The ones I left behind would have been duplicates, in poor condition, or would have created big holes that I have no intention collecting. At 25 cents, though, I may pick up more at a later date. There were some later run Harbys that I probably should have picked up.

Oh, the shop I visited is called Magic Comics & Hobbies and is located at 727 Robert Blvd., Slidell, LA 70458. The phone number is 985-649-4171. If you are in the area it is a decent shop—the biggest Bronze Age selection I know of in the New Orleans metro area.

The Count · Post by **The Count** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:26 am

xodacia81 wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:Hahahahahaha...hey, I asked. In hindsight, I wish I didn't, cuz I spoiled myself. Ah well

So seriously...has anyone else ever felt bad for the Spider Aliens?
Only Sven.

Don't feel bad for that blood sucker!

I want all Spider Aliens DEAD, especially that buster sven.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:05 pm

Nope, no sympathy at all

JonesyAZ · Post by **JonesyAZ** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:48 pm

Y'know what...after reading more stories about them...yeah...they suck...lol. They can all die. The Solar The Destroyer three-issue "Valiant Vision" story was cool...lol

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