Worst Universe

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:29 am

Theres plenty of discussion here about great universes that have sadly came to an end but let me pose this question to you Dead Universe devotees… Which is the worst?

Which dead universe simply made no sense, had no truly great heroes or stories to tell. Which universe had, in your opinion, no artistic merit?

I pose this question to you devotees and want, desire, even NEED to hear your complaints about the most pitiful universe!

Hopefully this will create a great little debate!

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:36 am

Based on reading only a couple of issues so far (so this opinion may change!

) - Triumphant.

Marketed as the 'collectors universe'; sub-Vertigo books with poor dialogue, mediocre art (at best) and seemingly no hook to grab me. Terrible!

I'll still acquire a set though...

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:14 am

Ominous Press.

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:25 am

leonmallett wrote:Based on reading only a couple of issues so far (so this opinion may change! ) - Triumphant.

Marketed as the 'collectors universe'; sub-Vertigo books with poor dialogue, mediocre art (at best) and seemingly no hook to grab me. Terrible!

I'll still acquire a set though...

ha ha collector's curse kicking in!

myron · Post by **myron** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:53 am

here's my vote:

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:16 pm

myron wrote:here's my vote:

Does that count? Surely a universe has to be 'alive' before 'death' can be pronounced...?

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:56 pm

myron wrote:here's my vote:

I guess that's one I've got four whole runs of.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:23 pm

Blackthorne

-slym

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:34 pm

Dreamwave. Pat Lee should never draw anything ever again.

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:07 pm

I have nearly a complete run of this one and spent less than $5 getting it (less shipping) - Triumphant.

Terrible stuff.

Once again, leonmallet chooses wisely in matters of the DU.

Jaknife · Post by **Jaknife** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:39 pm

that valiant universe was pretty crappy.

J-Scott-R · Post by **J-Scott-R** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:27 pm

Chiclo wrote:I have nearly a complete run of this one and spent less than $5 getting it (less shipping) - Triumphant.

Terrible stuff.

Once again, leonmallet chooses wisely in matters of the DU.

I agree, by far the worst of the DU's.

J-Scott-R · Post by **J-Scott-R** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:27 pm

Jaknife wrote:that valiant universe was pretty crappy.

Doorman · Post by **Doorman** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:26 pm

Allow me to echo: Triumphant ... although, I imagine Dagger is up there, too.

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:59 pm

J-Scott-R wrote:
Jaknife wrote:that valiant universe was pretty crappy.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:48 am

Chiclo wrote:I have nearly a complete run of this one and spent less than $5 getting it (less shipping) - Triumphant.

Terrible stuff.

Once again, leonmallet chooses wisely in matters of the DU.

I like to feel that I can recognise and be strangely attracted to *SQUEE* comics at times...

...luckily I also occasionally stumble on the gems of good stuff that the rest of you already knew about!

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:17 am

myron wrote:here's my vote:

Do we have a Stillborn Universes section?

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:13 am

Drift wrote:
myron wrote:here's my vote:

Do we have a Stillborn Universes section?

ha ha haaaa

Jaknife · Post by **Jaknife** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:20 pm

TKWill wrote:
J-Scott-R wrote:
Jaknife wrote:that valiant universe was pretty crappy.

mwahahahahahahahaha!!!

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Mon May 04, 2009 12:13 am

Well my

here, I would have to say Triumphant BUT only on the art, horrible art. I have read a few issues though and if I take the book seriously, it appears as if there is some decent story behind those childlike markings within panels.

Lightening comics is right up there as well !!

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Mon May 04, 2009 12:04 pm

Knightt wrote:Well my here, I would have to say Triumphant BUT only on the art, horrible art. I have read a few issues though and if I take the book seriously, it appears as if there is some decent story behind those childlike markings within panels.

I agree, I read a couple issues of the Chromium Man, plus a web page on the character, and I thought the concept was pretty good.

http://www.chromiumman.com/

turborip · Post by **turborip** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:37 pm

slym2none wrote:Blackthorne

-slym

Weren't they the ones that did all that 3D stuff back in the day?

My vote still goes to Trimphant. I couldn't get past the art to care about the story!

Doorman · Post by **Doorman** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:21 am

They did indeed do many 3-D comics but Blackthorne was a very diverse company.

They published all kinds of stuff.

movie/music/TV/cartoon adaptations - Rambo, Battletech, Transformers, GI Joe, California Raisins, Moonwalker, Star Wars

anthropomorphics - pre-teen dirty gene kangaroos, hamster vice, cold blooded chameleons, alien ducklings, nervous rex, midnite

parody - laffin' gas, failed universe, freak out on infant earths, man of rust

action/adventure - roachmill, labor force

underground - bizarre 3-d zone

fantasy - enchanted valley, goldyn

sci fi - beyond mars

classic reprints - dick tracy, brenda starr, jungle comics, planet comics

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed May 06, 2009 7:43 am

Doorman wrote:They did indeed do many 3-D comics but Blackthorne was a very diverse company.

They published all kinds of stuff.

movie/music/TV/cartoon adaptations - Rambo, Battletech, Transformers, GI Joe, California Raisins, Moonwalker, Star Wars

anthropomorphics - pre-teen dirty gene kangaroos, hamster vice, cold blooded chameleons, alien ducklings, nervous rex, midnite

parody - laffin' gas, failed universe, freak out on infant earths, man of rust

action/adventure - roachmill, labor force

underground - bizarre 3-d zone

fantasy - enchanted valley, goldyn

sci fi - beyond mars

classic reprints - dick tracy, brenda starr, jungle comics, planet comics

Blackthorne had quite a few good books, but they were overwhelmed by the number of stinkers they put out. I highly recommend Roachmill to any who like to collect cancelled titles. After the initial six issues by Blackthorne, the book was later picked up by Dark Horse. I enjoyed it.

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:19 am

Brother J wrote:
Doorman wrote:They did indeed do many 3-D comics but Blackthorne was a very diverse company.

They published all kinds of stuff.

movie/music/TV/cartoon adaptations - Rambo, Battletech, Transformers, GI Joe, California Raisins, Moonwalker, Star Wars

anthropomorphics - pre-teen dirty gene kangaroos, hamster vice, cold blooded chameleons, alien ducklings, nervous rex, midnite

parody - laffin' gas, failed universe, freak out on infant earths, man of rust

action/adventure - roachmill, labor force

underground - bizarre 3-d zone

fantasy - enchanted valley, goldyn

sci fi - beyond mars

classic reprints - dick tracy, brenda starr, jungle comics, planet comics
Blackthorne had quite a few good books, but they were overwhelmed by the number of stinkers they put out. I highly recommend Roachmill to any who like to collect cancelled titles. After the initial six issues by Blackthorne, the book was later picked up by Dark Horse. I enjoyed it.

I just grabbed a stack of Bthorne books and yes they did good and bad.
Lots of licensed 3-d books including Transformers.

However so far i think either Dagger of Greater Mercury are the stinkers.

I used to think it was Triumphant, but upon lookng further, bad art aside they actually had a concept that was thought out and executed to a degree of ok.