Accliam Turok: Joshua Fireseed

Turok:The Dinosaur Hunter · Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:25 pm

Anyone likes the Accliam comics of Turok. Also, how is Tal'Set related to Joshua, besides being Turok?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:00 pm

When Acclaim revamped Turok. They made a "Turok" lineage that starts with Tal'Set (The Valiant One). All other "Turoks" would decend from him through the Fireseed family.

After many generations of "Turoks", Joshua was handed the mantle by Carl Fireseed (his Uncle). Later on when Joshua died in 'Shadows Of Oblivion', the mantle was passed on to his sister Danielle and his younger brother Joseph.

*SQUEE* · Post by ***SQUEE*** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:16 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:When Acclaim revamped Turok. They made a "Turok" lineage that starts with Tal'Set (The Valiant One). All other "Turoks" would decend from him through the Fireseed family.

After many generations of "Turoks", Joshua was handed the mantle by Carl Fireseed (his Uncle). Later on when Joshua died in 'Shadows Of Oblivion', the mantle was passed on to his sister Danielle and his younger brother Joseph.

I am so glad I never read the Acclaim stuff.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:20 am

*SQUEE* wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:When Acclaim revamped Turok. They made a "Turok" lineage that starts with Tal'Set (The Valiant One). All other "Turoks" would decend from him through the Fireseed family.

After many generations of "Turoks", Joshua was handed the mantle by Carl Fireseed (his Uncle). Later on when Joshua died in 'Shadows Of Oblivion', the mantle was passed on to his sister Danielle and his younger brother Joseph.
I am so glad I never read the Acclaim stuff.

You should. Everyone is doing it.

Some of them are actually OK to pretty good.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:21 am

iggy101us wrote: Some of them are actually OK to pretty good.

Yeah, they didn't hit the ground running, but after awhile they came up with some pretty good concepts for several of the characters.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:45 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote: Some of them are actually OK to pretty good.
Yeah, they didn't hit the ground running, but after awhile they came up with some pretty good concepts for several of the characters.

I'll second that...

-Brian

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:55 pm

BloodSHot, Turok & Shadowman III are all great reads.

dave · Post by **dave** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:45 am

i liked the idea of bloodshot having to "add" flesh or whatever in order to rehab his body...kinda made more sense than the nanites always being able to reconstruct anything no matter the amount of tissue loss.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:25 pm

dave wrote:i liked the idea of bloodshot having to "add" flesh or whatever in order to rehab his body...kinda made more sense than the nanites always being able to reconstruct anything no matter the amount of tissue loss.

Well, if one such as the "original" Bloodshot were to eat a large enough amount of the right proteins, most tissue damage would be healed and replaced that way, not by the nanites just constructing new flesh.

-slym (remembers BS eating Chinese food right out of the carton in one issue)

dave · Post by **dave** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:09 pm

i eat chinese food right out of the carton too...

i just didn't remember it ever being mentinoed that BS (!) had to do anything to aid the nanites in "fixing" him...did they establish that? haven't read past CE and i wouldn't really remember anyway if they did, i don't get too wrapped up in that stuff

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:18 pm

dave wrote:i eat chinese food right out of the carton too...

i just didn't remember it ever being mentinoed that BS (!) had to do anything to aid the nanites in "fixing" him...did they establish that? haven't read past CE and i wouldn't really remember anyway if they did, i don't get too wrapped up in that stuff

I have only read BloodShot up to issue 12, so I'm not sure if this is how it's explained, it's just how I explain it to myself.

-slym (who needs MotA?)

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:04 pm

slym2none wrote:
dave wrote:i eat chinese food right out of the carton too...

i just didn't remember it ever being mentinoed that BS (!) had to do anything to aid the nanites in "fixing" him...did they establish that? haven't read past CE and i wouldn't really remember anyway if they did, i don't get too wrapped up in that stuff
I have only read BloodShot up to issue 12, so I'm not sure if this is how it's explained, it's just how I explain it to myself.

-slym (who needs MotA?)

::::Possible Spoilers:::: After Chaos Effect and just prior to Birthquake, there was a crossover with Secret Weapons where Ninjak had to reconfigure-for lack of a better term, and I might be a bit off-BS's blood/nanites. I recall something soon after where he had to "concentrate" to heal if the damage was severe enough.

But, SLYM? # 12? His day off? Come on, man! Read some more. It's one of the few titles that didn't totally suck by the end.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:55 pm

VH-1 Bloodshot carried around vitamins and supplements to assist the nanites in their reconstructive duties.

SPOILER (??)

After he lost a leg to Proteus, Bloodshot was able to use metal to help rebuild the missing limb.

Can we please not abbreviate it "BS," folks?

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:48 pm

xodacia81 wrote:SLYM? # 12? His day off? Come on, man! Read some more. It's one of the few titles that didn't totally suck by the end.

Don't you know? I am a reluctant post-Unity collector. I only have a handful of issues (besides a complete Rai run) past Unity at all, but multiples of a lot of the pre-Unity comics.

-slym (has "reader copies" of BS 0-12)

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:50 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:*VALIANT (1991-1996)* Bloodshot carried around vitamins and supplements to assist the nanites in their reconstructive duties.

SPOILER (??)

After he lost a leg to Proteus, Bloodshot was able to use metal to help rebuild the missing limb.

Can we please not abbreviate it "BS," folks?

I bet he still had to eat a lot of meat and other proteins, they just didn't show it. Again, that's how I help explain it to myself, but I'm not gonna go all "MotA" on anyone that disagrees!

And I like calling it BS.....

-slym (

)

dave · Post by **dave** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:47 pm

that is totally dc lite of you slym...you have no clue at all, i'm surprised your computer is even plugged in. sheesh.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:08 pm

slym2none wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:SLYM? # 12? His day off? Come on, man! Read some more. It's one of the few titles that didn't totally suck by the end.
Don't you know? I am a reluctant post-Unity collector. I only have a handful of issues (besides a complete Rai run) past Unity at all, but multiples of a lot of the pre-Unity comics.

-slym (has "reader copies" of BS 0-12)

Yes, come to think of it, I did. I've been a bit foggy, of late. However, there is just no excuse not to finish up Bloodshot if you are a RAI fan

dave · Post by **dave** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:40 pm

so, slym, do you ever get into arguments while "explaining it to yourself"?

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:46 pm

dave wrote:so, slym, do you ever get into arguments while "explaining it to yourself"?

Are... are you watching me?

-slym

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:47 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
slym2none wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:SLYM? # 12? His day off? Come on, man! Read some more. It's one of the few titles that didn't totally suck by the end.
Don't you know? I am a reluctant post-Unity collector. I only have a handful of issues (besides a complete Rai run) past Unity at all, but multiples of a lot of the pre-Unity comics.

-slym (has "reader copies" of BS 0-12)
Yes, come to think of it, I did. I've been a bit foggy, of late. However, there is just no excuse not to finish up Bloodshot if you are a RAI fan

Sure there is - I'm lazy and no-one has sent them to me.

-slym

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:48 pm

dave wrote:that is totally dc lite of you slym...you have no clue at all, i'm surprised your computer is even plugged in. sheesh.

You and your opinion are both wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

-slym

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:09 am

slym2none wrote:I bet he still had to eat a lot of meat and other proteins, they just didn't show it. Again, that's how I help explain it to myself, but I'm not gonna go all "MotA" on anyone that disagrees!

I don't disagree. Except he's able to use more than just meat and protein, at least short-term.

And I like calling it BS.....

-slym ( )

You're far from alone.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:17 am

And, so the voices in my head will stop chattering, v2's take on it:

Sorry for the unintentional hijacking of the Turok thread.

*SQUEE* · Post by ***SQUEE*** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:31 am

BloodOfHeroes wrote:And, so the voices in my head will stop chattering, v2's take on it:

Sorry for the unintentional hijacking of the Turok thread.

Is this Valiant still? I have all the issues but have not gotten around to reading past Chaos Effect for bloodshot as my issues are flat out mint. I normally wouldn't care but they look so pretty.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:06 am

*SQUEE* wrote:Is this Valiant still? I have all the issues but have not gotten around to reading past Chaos Effect for bloodshot as my issues are flat out mint. I normally wouldn't care but they look so pretty.

The VanHook issues are pretty much based in science (in an universe where you accept Harbingers, alien tech and advanced nanotech to begin with, that is). Moretti stepped up the action and espionage angle and dovetailed it all nicely into what had come before in his NINJAK work.

The second volume is Acclaim's "Valiant Heroes" universe and one of the best series--tale and art--ever produced. Well worth acquiring a full run, IMO.