Rank the early Valiant books.

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:17 pm

I'm a long time comics reader, but lost interest temporarily during my college years (Early 90's), hence I missed out on the Valiant Universe.

I'm now realizing what I missed.

I've gotten most of the issues of X-O & Eternal Warrior (Haven't read them all yet). I have Archer & Armstrong #'s 7-12. A pretty good run of Bloodshot. Three or four scattered issues of Shadowman. And I just bought the tpb of Solar this past weekend on ebay.

What else should I get?

You could help me out by ranking your favorite books from the following list:

X-O
Solar
Eternal Warrior
Archer & Armstrong
Bloodshot
Shadowman
Magnus
Harbinger
Rai
The H.A.R.D. Corps

Which were your favorites? Least Favorites?

Your rankings will help me determine what to get next.

Thanks.

1st Among Equals · Post by **1st Among Equals** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:19 pm

From 1-10?

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:24 pm

Best to "worst":

Harbinger #1-7
Solar #1-10
Rai #1-7 (this really is one continuous story.)
Unity
Magnus #1-12
Archer & Armstrong #0-12
Shadowman #1-16
X-O Manowar #1-6
Harbinger #10-25
Magnus #13-14
X-O #14-15
Solar #14-15

Yeah, that's about right.

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:26 pm

1st Among Equals wrote:From 1-10?

Yeah, that'd be helpful.

or best to least favorite.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:27 pm

Harbinger
Solar
X-O
Archer & Armstrong
Shadowman
Eternal Warrior
Bloodshot
Magnus
Rai
The H.A.R.D. Corps

Darth Kramer · Post by **Darth Kramer** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:43 pm

Magnus
Solar
Shadowman
Harbinger
Archer & Armstrong
Rai
X-O
Eternal Warrior
HARD Corps.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:45 pm

1.Magnus
2.Rai
3.Solar
4.Harbinger
5.Shadowman
6. X-O
7.Eternal Warrior
8.Archer & Armstrong
9.Bloodshot
10.The H.A.R.D. Corps

Knob · Post by **Knob** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:06 pm

1. Magnus
2. Harbinger
3. X-O
4. A&A
5. Solar
6. Rai
7. Shadowman
8. Eternal Warrior
9. Bloodshot
10. I like all the other series about the same, good here and there but no really long great runs

1st Among Equals · Post by **1st Among Equals** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:06 pm

1.X-O
2.Shadowman
3.Bloodshot
4.Etenal Warroir
5.Harbinger
6.Solar
7.Magnus
8.H.A.R.D. Corps
9.Archer and Armstrong
10.Rai

Ben(inabox) · Post by **Ben(inabox)** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:19 pm

Harbinger
Rai
Eternal Warrior
Archer & Armstrong
Shadowman
X-O
Magnus
Solar
Bloodshot
The H.A.R.D. Corps

Chuck · Post by **Chuck** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:21 pm

Similar to Zeph's but just mainly Pre-Unity

Solar Alpha and Omega
Solar #1-10 (Main Story)
Harbinger #1-7
X-O Manowar #1-6
Rai #1-7 (6 and 7 & not pre-U)
Magnus #1-12
Archer & Armstrong #1-8 (not pre-U)
Shadowman #1-3

sanman · Post by **sanman** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:34 am

From best to least favorite as far as the first 10 issues or so go...

Magnus
X-O
Solar
Rai
Harbinger
Eternal Warrior
Shadowman
Archer & Armstrong
Bloodshot
The H.A.R.D. Corps

myron · Post by **myron** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:42 am

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Best to "worst":

Harbinger #1-7
Solar #1-10
Rai #1-7 (this really is one continuous story.)
Unity
Magnus #1-12
Archer & Armstrong #0-12
Shadowman #1-16
X-O Manowar #1-6
Harbinger #10-25
Magnus #13-14
X-O #14-15
Solar #14-15

Yeah, that's about right.

maybe include EW 1-8 too?

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:13 am

Rule of thumb........buy and read ALL the preunity/unity books. All the titles were good for at least one or two more issues after unity and several were good for even more.

These are my favorite preunity titles in order with the best reading of each if memory is accurate.

Solar 1-18
A&A 1-12
Magnus 0-20
Rai 1-8
Unity 0-1
Eternal Warrior 1-8
Harbinger 0-14
Shadowman 1-14
XO 1-15

Good postunity titles as well.

Bloodshot 1-3
HardCorps 1-4

Some early issues of Turok were very good as well but can't remember the issues #'s.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:14 am

You are asking the wrong question if you are asking which titles are best, because ALL of the titles take a nosedive in quality as they progress.

If you want to know what titles stay pretty good throughout, that is a different question.

If you want to know which runs within each title are the best, then Zeph and Myron are approximately correct, though I would put Eternal Warrior 6 and 7 pretty high up in the list myself:

myron wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Best to "worst":

Harbinger #1-7
Solar #1-10
Rai #1-7 (this really is one continuous story.)
Unity
Magnus #1-12
Archer & Armstrong #0-12
Shadowman #1-16
X-O Manowar #1-6
Harbinger #10-25
Magnus #13-14
X-O #14-15
Solar #14-15

Yeah, that's about right.
maybe include EW 1-8 too?

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:51 am

Dr. Solar wrote: I would put Eternal Warrior 6 and 7 pretty high up in the list myself:

Darque torturing a past Geomancer underground & the Bagh-nahka (spelling?)...... a must read! also two of the best Valiant covers.

Two of my hoard books.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:09 am

Try to grab runs of the books on eBay... it will save you time and cash.

Im an X-O fan. But any of the early books are fun.. and if you can, try to read them in order up through Unity

There is a reading list somewhere here on the site...some one should link that in a short time

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:05 am

IanAlexavier wrote:Try to grab runs of the books on eBay... it will save you time and cash.

Im an X-O fan. But any of the early books are fun.. and if you can, try to read them in order up through Unity There is a reading list somewhere here on the site...some one should link that in a short time

I think it is better to read by title, then stop periodically, then read another title. But really, I like to read it from start to finish.

The only time when I consider "the reading order list", is when the stories crossover. Unity (obviously), the is a early Solar XO corssover story arc (XO #13 and Solar #17, I am going from memory here), and there is a Shadowman XO story crossover also. I during the Malev war it might be better to switch off form Rai and magnus.

Just my opinion.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:11 am

Elveen wrote:
IanAlexavier wrote:Try to grab runs of the books on eBay... it will save you time and cash.

Im an X-O fan. But any of the early books are fun.. and if you can, try to read them in order up through Unity There is a reading list somewhere here on the site...some one should link that in a short time
I think it is better to read by title, then stop periodically, then read another title. But really, I like to read it from start to finish.

The only time when I consider "the reading order list", is when the stories crossover. Unity (obviously), the is a early Solar XO corssover story arc (XO #13 and Solar #17, I am going from memory here), and there is a Shadowman XO story crossover also. I during the Malev war it might be better to switch off form Rai and magnus.

Just my opinion.

I've got my own reading order, too, but really, once you go 6 months beyond Unity, it doesn't really matter

JustCallMeAric · Post by **JustCallMeAric** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:26 pm

Solar
Archer & Armstrong
X-O
Harbinger
Shadowman
Eternal Warrior
Magnus
Bloodshot
Rai
The H.A.R.D. Corps

I think A&A is one of the most original books Valiant did

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:15 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
If you want to know what titles stay pretty good throughout, that is a different question.

That is a good question.

So, which books did maintain quality for the longest period?

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:21 pm

Big Red wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
If you want to know what titles stay pretty good throughout, that is a different question.
That is a good question.

So, which books did maintain quality for the longest period?

IMO:

Bloodshot
Shadowman
Eternal Warrior

Lightning Strike · Post by **Lightning Strike** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:54 pm

Big Red wrote:I'm a long time comics reader, but lost interest temporarily during my college years (Early 90's), hence I missed out on the Valiant Universe.

I'm now realizing what I missed.

I've gotten most of the issues of X-O & Eternal Warrior (Haven't read them all yet). I have Archer & Armstrong #'s 7-12. A pretty good run of Bloodshot. Three or four scattered issues of Shadowman. And I just bought the tpb of Solar this past weekend on ebay.

What else should I get?

You could help me out by ranking your favorite books from the following list:

X-O
Solar
Eternal Warrior
Archer & Armstrong
Bloodshot
Shadowman
Magnus
Harbinger
Rai
The H.A.R.D. Corps

Which were your favorites? Least Favorites?

My favorites were X-O, early Solar issues, Harbinger, A & A, early Rai issues and Eternal Warrior. Here's how I would rank them:

X-O
Harbinger
Solar
Archer & Armstrong
Eternal Warrior
Shadowman
Rai
Bloodshot
Magnus
HARD Corps

Lightning Strike · Post by **Lightning Strike** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:55 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Best to "worst":

Harbinger #1-7
Solar #1-10
Rai #1-7 (this really is one continuous story.)
Unity
Magnus #1-12
Archer & Armstrong #0-12
Shadowman #1-16
X-O Manowar #1-6
Harbinger #10-25
Magnus #13-14
X-O #14-15
Solar #14-15

Yeah, that's about right.

That's a good list

Lightning Strike · Post by **Lightning Strike** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:56 pm

I guess I would just add that you can't go wrong with any Pre-Unity issues.

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