Harbinger #3, coupon detached but present, value?

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:25 pm

Here's a situation I've never encountered, so I thought I'd get some opinions. I just received Harbinger #1-3 from Neatstuff (paid .01 each plus the $1.50 S/H) and all three had the coupon present. However, the coupon in #3 was loose in the book, detached from the perforated part but it was still in there. What do you think this does to the value of the book? I assume that it's not worth as much as the coupon attached, but it should be worth more than a book with the coupon completely missing.

justin · Post by **justin** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:27 pm

Invisible 3M baby!

-A

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:35 pm

Invisible 3M baby!

Just say no to resto!

justin · Post by **justin** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:36 pm

architect wrote:Invisible 3M baby!

to be taken as a joke!

-A

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:40 pm

I knew you were foolin!

It's a shame, too, because it's a real nice copy of Harbinger #3, as well. No defects that I can see other than the detached coupon.

Emoticons are

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:40 pm

About as much as a book with the Marvel Stamp cut out, but present.

Fair? To me, yeah. I wouldn't pay more than $1 for it.

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:53 pm

I have to agree... it's not the coupon that adds the "extra dollars",
it's the knowledge that no one has ever used scissors on the book.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:03 pm

Hmmm... I'm confused. What preforated part? I've never seen a coupon with a preforation. I had to use a scissors to cut mine out.

Does this mean the coupon was in two pieces? Which piece was bound into the book, if any? Is the piece still bound into the book staples in with one of the staples?

Brother J wrote:Here's a situation I've never encountered, so I thought I'd get some opinions. I just received Harbinger #1-3 from Neatstuff (paid .01 each plus the $1.50 S/H) and all three had the coupon present. However, the coupon in #3 was loose in the book, detached from the perforated part but it was still in there. What do you think this does to the value of the book? I assume that it's not worth as much as the coupon attached, but it should be worth more than a book with the coupon completely missing.

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:50 pm

If the coupon is uncompleted, mauled or defective in any way that would made a third grade party like cgc reject given it a high grade then I would tend to also devalue the comic. From the sound of your original post, I believe it would be undesired by 90% of the board members who frequent this forum.

Not to be a downer but I'd either return the book for a refund or keep the book in hopes that one day coupon less Harbingers gather some value.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:25 pm

ckb wrote:Hmmm... I'm confused. What preforated part? I've never seen a coupon with a preforation. I had to use a scissors to cut mine out.

Does this mean the coupon was in two pieces? Which piece was bound into the book, if any? Is the piece still bound into the book staples in with one of the staples?

All the copies I secretly tore the coupons out o....er, bought, took home, and removed....I had to tear out raggedly.....there was no perforation that I could see (or still)

wrunow · Post by **wrunow** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:38 pm

On the coupons there is a dotted line that means cut here, it is not perforated, just looks like it to some.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:40 pm

wrunow wrote:On the coupons there is a dotted line that means cut here, it is not perforated, just looks like it to some.

Ohhhh....THAT'S what he's talking about? <smirk>

Yes, they all have the dashed line.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:54 pm

45 more to 1000.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:40 pm

Yeah, my bad, it was cut, not perforated. It was such a even cut along the dotted line, it looked that way to me. Sorry, guys!

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:48 pm

Does this mean the coupon was in two pieces? Which piece was bound into the book, if any? Is the piece still bound into the book staples in with one of the staples?

No, the coupon is loose inside the book, the stub 1/2 is still attached as is the little flap the coupon was attached to.

It's my fault, I've actually never see a detached coupon before and I couldn't figure out why someone would cut it and then leave it in the book.

Not to be a downer but I'd either return the book for a refund or keep the book in hopes that one day coupon less Harbingers gather some value.

No big deal, really. Considering what I paid ($1.51 each for Harbinger #1-3, Magnus #5 and X-O #1) I really don't have much room to complain. The description in the auction didn't even mention the coupon and since it was neatstuff, I figured any question about the book would probably go unanswered. The Harbinger #1, 2 and Magnus #5 all had coupons and cards intact so overall, I'm happy.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:23 pm

It's one of the wierdest things I have ever heard. Does the coupon cut match exactly with the stub? Is the paper stock the same.

Including a copy of a part of an incomplete book is a nice thing to do. Some people may even have copied their coupons before sending them, and put the copy in the book.

Bottom line is that it has to be considered "couponless".

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:29 pm

I take photocopes of coupons and micro-tape repair them into couponless books...you know, just so people can have the coupons....cool, huh?

Just call me Mr. Generous.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:46 pm

Here you go, Ckb. It's definitely the actual coupon, same paper stock and it looks like the cut matches, as well.

Bottom line, it's not worth much, but it's still a weird find to actually find a clipped coupon book with the coupon inside still.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:31 pm

It's like the biggest bummer I can imagine. The coupon isnt just missing, it's been cut off and left there to tease you. The agony.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:34 pm

My point was we did not know the panels on the coupons were going to be reprinted in Harb 0. So, keeping a copy of the image would have been wise if you weren't hoarding multiple copies.

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:I take photocopes of coupons and micro-tape repair them into couponless books...you know, just so people can have the coupons....cool, huh?

Just call me Mr. Generous.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:35 pm

ckb wrote:My point was we did not know the panels on the coupons were going to be reprinted in Harb 0. So, keeping a copy of the image would have been wise if you weren't hoarding multiple copies.

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:I take photocopes of coupons and micro-tape repair them into couponless books...you know, just so people can have the coupons....cool, huh?

Just call me Mr. Generous.

Uh...that was another joke.

You know, restoring the book?

Escaflown4 · Post by **Escaflown4** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:59 pm

This reminds me one time back in the mid 90's, I bought Cyberforce #1 in a similar fashion. If anyone remember, it was one of the Image issues that had the coupon to redeem Image #0. I didn't bother to check the coupon until I got home. It was horribly cut out, but it was there to tease me. What a waste of 3 bucks.

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:23 pm

I actually have a full set of the coupons/certificates that should have been used to send to get the Next Men 0 issue. I am not sure what happened but I never mailed them in.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:06 am

x-omatic wrote:I actually have a full set of the coupons/certificates that should have been used to send to get the Next Men 0 issue. I am not sure what happened but I never mailed them in.

Ehhhh...no, it was the certs (1-6) to get the Next Men trading CARDS. I still have a full set, but one of them got crunched...and I have NEVER, EVER seen another set.

I wonder how rare they are?

By the by....Next Men was really, REALLY good. Last good thing Byrne ever did.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:16 am

Anyone know the print run on those Image #0 books? You know, Image's rip off of the Valiant coupon idea. I see them in quarter and .50 boxes all the time, and I keep wondering if they are worth salvaging since they were send away books. They certainly don't seem to be hard to find.

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