Boda'a CGC eBay Auction

BodaZoffa · Post by **BodaZoffa** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:12 am

Here are the remaing CGC comics up for bid on eBay...

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V ... =3&rows=50

Thanks for bidding..... Boda

dino · Post by **dino** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:14 am

Nice auctions boda, I've got my eye on one

BodaZoffa · Post by **BodaZoffa** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:17 am

dino wrote:Nice auctions boda, I've got my eye on one

Let me guess.... Ninjak Gold? I have never seen a 9.8 of this up on eBay ever, so I am curious as to how it will do.

Boda

dino · Post by **dino** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:20 am

Nope not Ninjak Gold, I've never seen one either but I don't think it'll do $300. Mind you if we keep talking about how this is the only one that has ever been made avaliable to the public either on this board or on ebay, well then it might do some business. I've got my eye on something else though, I added it to my watch list so you should be able to tell.

soundoftheuniverse · Post by **soundoftheuniverse** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:30 am

I decided to lay down a few bids.

Boda you can go ahead and get the books packaged up for me

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:06 pm

Got my Harb #3, and since I can't leave feedback on eBay...consider this a big fat positive for Boda! Super fast shipping, good packaging, case in great shape! Thanks!

Now...I have some questions I'd like to discuss with you, Boda, if I may...did you send this book in raw yourself? Or did you pick it up? I ask because of the light 2 inch impact bend, along with a smaller bend, and a ding, in the bottom right corner, front to back. There's also that small scratch hole in the back cover.

I'm TOTALLY amazed this got a 9.4, I'd NEVER have sent this one in...if you did...what was the criteria by which you sent it? I'm curious...it seems I'm a stricter grader than even CGC....

and I may have screwed myself out of thousands of dollars over the years because of it.

ugh.

Eric Jackson · Post by **Eric Jackson** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:07 am

did it come in with a green label? Reading the grading section at the cgc web site i get the idea that the back isn't really taken into consideration. Read the section on the green label.

http://www.cgccomics.com/grading/

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:46 am

Eric Jackson wrote:did it come in with a green label? Reading the grading section at the cgc web site i get the idea that the back isn't really taken into consideration. Read the section on the green label.

http://www.cgccomics.com/grading/

I am fairly certain that the ENITRE book is taken into consideration when grading a book. No matter what label it gets or what the grade is. Back cover, centerwrap...3rd wrap....the ads.....the letter page...everything..

Brett · Post by **Brett** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:16 am

It is entirely possible that this happened during the slabbing process or while in transit after being slabbed.

I had an early 70's ASM that was dead NM when I sent it in, but when it came back, the lower right corner was actually crushed by the slab all the way from front cover to back.

I've also heard of graded books getting impacts on the corners from being banged around in the slab.

ryostar · Post by **ryostar** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:23 pm

I think CGC graders all have a different view of VF-MINT grades. The last few CGC books I received off ebay were overgraded badly! dinged corners & too many stress lines!!

BodaZoffa · Post by **BodaZoffa** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:10 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Got my Harb #3, and since I can't leave feedback on eBay...consider this a big fat positive for Boda! Super fast shipping, good packaging, case in great shape! Thanks!

Now...I have some questions I'd like to discuss with you, Boda, if I may...did you send this book in raw yourself? Or did you pick it up? I ask because of the light 2 inch impact bend, along with a smaller bend, and a ding, in the bottom right corner, front to back. There's also that small scratch hole in the back cover.

I'm TOTALLY amazed this got a 9.4, I'd NEVER have sent this one in...if you did...what was the criteria by which you sent it? I'm curious...it seems I'm a stricter grader than even CGC....

and I may have screwed myself out of thousands of dollars over the years because of it.

ugh.

I sent this book into CGC raw. My experience with CGC is that they DO grade Valiants a little differently. Some will argue this, but I think CGC is aware of the binderary deffects that most early Valiants have (ie. small splits in the spine towards the edges.)

Here is my check list for pre-grading Valiants before sending them into CGC, as they tend to have different "issues" of problems from other comics. These are the smaller details, after seeing that there are no obvious deffects with the issue....

1. Check the Valiant lable on the upper left side of the comic. The white around the Valiant star tends to get dirty from rubbing against other books. If this is dirty, I put it in the "no go" pile right off the bat.

2. Hold the comic to the light at a slant. You will be able to see spine splits, grooves, impressions, etc. more easily this way.

3. Look at the top of the book, pages & all. Look for yellow or brown discolorization from the top of the book being exposed to the sun, while being stored in an open comic box. (I've had a few X-O Gold's go down the crapper due to this.)

4. If you have spine splits or corner tears (Valiant corners), CGC is very forgiving of this. They must me SHARP splits or tears, though, with NO "wear down" on them.

5. Check the inside of the comic!!!! Very common mistake made by people. They assume that if the cover looks great, the inside is great too. Wrong....! Also, make sure to check the back of the comic with the same scrutiny as the front. Many people judge the condition of the comic without taking it out of the sleeve.

6. Wear gloves when handeling your comics during inspection. If you have sweaty hands, like me, you will leave marks on the comic while inspecting it.

7. Be INCREDIBLY critical in your grading of issues with mostly white or yellow covers... EW #1, Solar #2, Rai #0, Solar #7, etc. White covers are like death to a comic for grading purposes.

Hope this helps...

Also keep in mind that comic grading is a Voodoo art. I have never seen an area where difference of opinion is a corner stone of quality, like in comic grading. That 9.4 you own, might have gotten a 9.8 by another grader. Keep in mind that everything above a 9.6, you are basically paying for a label.

Boda

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:10 pm

Brett wrote:It is entirely possible that this happened during the slabbing process or while in transit after being slabbed.

I had an early 70's ASM that was dead NM when I sent it in, but when it came back, the lower right corner was actually crushed by the slab all the way from front cover to back.

I've also heard of graded books getting impacts on the corners from being banged around in the slab.

Yeah, X-O and I discussed this, and it's not that. The impact 'isn't right' for it to have happened in the slab.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:14 pm

BodaZoffa wrote:
Also keep in mind that comic grading is a Voodoo art. I have never seen an area where difference of opinion is a corner stone of quality, like in comic grading. That 9.4 you own, might have gotten a 9.8 by another grader. Keep in mind that everything above a 9.6, you are basically paying for a label.

Boda

Ok, but did it have the damage I'm describing BEFORE you sent it in? There's no way anyone....ANYONE...would have graded this a 9.8 and been honest. No way.

Sooooo....was it scratched and ding'd BEFORE you sent it in? Or did CGC do it? The book's just NOT a 9.4, it's about a 9.0.

<scratching my head>

BodaZoffa · Post by **BodaZoffa** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:38 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
BodaZoffa wrote:
Also keep in mind that comic grading is a Voodoo art. I have never seen an area where difference of opinion is a corner stone of quality, like in comic grading. That 9.4 you own, might have gotten a 9.8 by another grader. Keep in mind that everything above a 9.6, you are basically paying for a label.

Boda
Ok, but did it have the damage I'm describing BEFORE you sent it in? There's no way anyone....ANYONE...would have graded this a 9.8 and been honest. No way.

Sooooo....was it scratched and ding'd BEFORE you sent it in? Or did CGC do it? The book's just NOT a 9.4, it's about a 9.0.

<scratching my head>

I don't remember exactly, but I do know this.... If it had that kind of damage on it, I would have not sent it in to be graded. I only send in a comic if I think it will get a 9.6 or higher (unless it is a Silver Age). So it is very possible that this was done between grading & encapsuling. But to say it again, I can not be 100% certain. I sent these in over 3 months ago.

Hope that helps.... Boda

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:46 pm

BodaZoffa wrote:
I don't remember exactly, but I do know this.... If it had that kind of damage on it, I would have not sent it in to be graded. I only send in a comic if I think it will get a 9.6 or higher (unless it is a Silver Age). So it is very possible that this was done between grading & encapsuling. But to say it again, I can not be 100% certain. I sent these in over 3 months ago.

Hope that helps.... Boda

Thanks boss...that's what I figured, it just didn't make sense. For those wondering, the 'impact spread' is much too broad for it to have occurred (unless I absolutely don't know what I'm talking about) in the slab. This is the kind of damage you get when you're handling a book, and it drops and lands on the corner, from a height of maybe 3-4 feet, but on a softer surface (like a carpet) which radiates the kinetic energy of the blow out, causing less harsh, but more widespread, damage.

The scratch, I can't account for.

Very bizarre.

ryostar · Post by **ryostar** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:39 pm

They should switch to the 2 flatsinner holder. No resessed corners to bump around on. AS long as the seals are close to all the edges, it can't be damaged.

BodaZoffa · Post by **BodaZoffa** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:41 pm

Auction ends tonight. There are some really great prices on these still left. All profits will go towards my dinning room set, which will make the Misses happy. Do a brother some good, so this Misses doesn't beotch slap me around toight.....

Boda

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:46 pm

BodaZoffa wrote:Auction ends tonight. There are some really great prices on these still left. All profits will go towards my dinning room set, which will make the Misses happy. Do a brother some good, so this Misses doesn't beotch slap me around toight.....

Boda

Does the smiley mean you kinda like it when she does that?

BodaZoffa · Post by **BodaZoffa** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:36 pm

DawgPhan wrote:
BodaZoffa wrote:Auction ends tonight. There are some really great prices on these still left. All profits will go towards my dinning room set, which will make the Misses happy. Do a brother some good, so this Misses doesn't beotch slap me around toight.....

Boda
Does the smiley mean you kinda like it when she does that?

Depends on where she slaps me, & what she she says when she does it....

soundoftheuniverse · Post by **soundoftheuniverse** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:18 pm

Quietly optimistic, although I'm sure there are some decent snipe's placed.

I'll be snugglin with my baby in the hospital. *cheers!*

BodaZoffa · Post by **BodaZoffa** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:56 pm

It looks like the Ninjak Gold CGC 9.8 is getting some attention. There are a large number of watchers on this one (I won't expose the number for purposes of integrity).

I am really curious to see how this does, as I have never seen one up for auction before.

Boda

BodaZoffa · Post by **BodaZoffa** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:08 am

Thanks all for bidding....

Looks like I will be able to get the dinning room set, & make the misses happy.

Look for another auction in Dec.

Boda

soundoftheuniverse · Post by **soundoftheuniverse** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:10 pm

Hey Boda do you combine on the shipping for these? Looks like I won the one I wanted ... Solar 4's ok too I guess

tbrezz · Post by **tbrezz** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:49 pm

Got me one. Something a little pink

. My first Harby 0

. I might cry. Thanks for putting it up. I'll let you know when I get it. Hope you get a real fancy dinning room set keep the wife real happy

BodaZoffa · Post by **BodaZoffa** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:10 pm

Soundoftheuniverse.... you got a PM.

tbrezz.... got your payment today. Your's will be mailed out tommorrow morning.

Thanks for the bids, fellas.... Boda