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greg Doctor Holland, Man of the Datum


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: HARBINGER: THE BEGINNING - Recolored Pages - SNEAK PREVIEW |
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Valiant Entertainment is proud to present a sneak preview of recolored pages for the upcoming HARBINGER: THE BEGINNING hardcover to ValiantFans.com first! All digital recoloring was overseen by original Valiant colorists who had an insider's view on the original intention of Harbinger's creative team. The integrity of the original look was preserved, while adding depth, special effects, and corrections using the latest digital techniques. The melding of classic storytelling and modern execution more accurately showcases the original vision for Harbinger issues #0 - #7 than ever before.
HARBINGER: THE BEGINNING (JUN073932), published by Valiant Entertainment, is solicited in the June Previews (Volume XVII #6) and scheduled to arrive in comic book stores nationwide on August 29th, 2007. The book marks the milestone return of comics legend Jim Shooter and is a full-color 192 page hardcover with a suggested retail price of $24.95.
Harbinger #1 - Page One
Harbinger #1 - Page Five
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Edit, June 19, 2007: Additional pages posted at Broken Frontier:
http://www.brokenfrontier.com/headlines/details.php?id=2981
Harbinger #1 - Page One
Harbinger #1 - Page Two
Harbinger #1 - Page Three
Harbinger #1 - Page Four
Harbinger #1 - Page Five
Harbinger #1 - Page Six

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Lightning Strike Silent from '04 to '07, then he strikes!


Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 6827 Location: Physically: USA---Spiritually: Ireland
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: HARBINGER: THE BEGINNING - Recolored Pages - SNEAK PREVI |
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I have to say, the recoloring really makes the book look drastically different. The pages are crisper and more defined.
I can't wait to get my copy and compare the whole thing to the originals, and most especially that new story.
BTW Greg, are you still offering valiantfans.com space for $10 a year? |
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Heath Aww... I thought I was special...


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Greg and Dino! Great job on the computer coloring. I think it's some of the best computer coloring I've seen. It looks like great care was taken to stick with the original look and feel, but add a bit more flair to it too. I definitely like the recolored page 1 better than the original, but I think I like the original version of page 5 a little better - especially the explosion. The upper right panel is the only panel on that page that looks a lot better.
There was just something about that original water color by hand technique that I have always loved and so closely associated with Valiant.
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TKWill Don't squeeze the Deathmate!


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Stop it! This stuff keeps leaking out and I can hardly contain myself. It is bad enough I have to wait two months.
Thanks for the post Greg, the pages look amazing. |
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dellamorte Zombies and nightstand nightmares


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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For the most part I like it but it seems to take a little something away from the look. I love the old hand painted Valiant colors. I understand the change and it appears to be done well.
Oh and just a note for the editor, you might want to change up the colors on the cars just a bit. That's a lot of red and white. |
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TKWill Don't squeeze the Deathmate!


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, crap. That post is gonna get me in trouble.  |
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Dr. Solar Fortune & glory, kid. Fortune & glory.


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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This looks FANTASTIC!
VE did a great job at keeping to the original while really spicing up the color and making it pop! I can't wait to get this book and read through it.
A big THANK YOU to Dino, et al, for providing the material for the sneak peak, and for Greg for posting it up! |
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thePike Magnanimous Topic Flyer


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Oh wow... !
I know I'm new to the board but I've been a big valiant fan for years...
Seeing this stuff redone, and hoping it's the beginning of something great for the incredible universe that was valiant makes me shimmer... |
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Ryan About this 'Bo Blayton', who is he?


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the preview! I love the original colors, but these do add some sharpness and depth! Can't wait till August! |
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Lightning Strike Silent from '04 to '07, then he strikes!


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| dellamorte wrote: | For the most part I like it but it seems to take a little something away from the look. I love the old hand painted Valiant colors. I understand the change and it appears to be done well.
Oh and just a note for the editor, you might want to change up the colors on the cars just a bit. That's a lot of red and white. |
I think that was done intentionally to draw your attention away from the background and to the main characters. |
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BrianT Turok, or not to rock...


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. D.C. really cleaned up that river in the last ten years.
Looks incredible! Me like. |
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siren3-4 The best feeling I get is filling holes


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Looks great !! Thank for the preview !!!  |
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ManofTheAtom Currently serving suspension.

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| dellamorte wrote: | For the most part I like it but it seems to take a little something away from the look. I love the old hand painted Valiant colors. I understand the change and it appears to be done well.
Oh and just a note for the editor, you might want to change up the colors on the cars just a bit. That's a lot of red and white. |
I like the red car, it gives it a 3D "VALIANT Vision"esque effect that makes it pop out of the page, like it's flying out of it straight to you. |
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dellamorte Zombies and nightstand nightmares


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| ManofTheAtom wrote: | | dellamorte wrote: | For the most part I like it but it seems to take a little something away from the look. I love the old hand painted Valiant colors. I understand the change and it appears to be done well.
Oh and just a note for the editor, you might want to change up the colors on the cars just a bit. That's a lot of red and white. |
I like the red car, it gives it a 3D "VALIANT Vision"esque effect that makes it pop out of the page, like it's flying out of it straight to you. |
Not the red car center page but all the red cars on the road down below. |
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greg Doctor Holland, Man of the Datum


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| dellamorte wrote: | | ManofTheAtom wrote: | | dellamorte wrote: | For the most part I like it but it seems to take a little something away from the look. I love the old hand painted Valiant colors. I understand the change and it appears to be done well.
Oh and just a note for the editor, you might want to change up the colors on the cars just a bit. That's a lot of red and white. |
I like the red car, it gives it a 3D "VALIANT Vision"esque effect that makes it pop out of the page, like it's flying out of it straight to you. |
Not the red car center page but all the red cars on the road down below. |
They're not all red... the Sweet Pickles Bus is in there.  |
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ManofTheAtom Currently serving suspension.

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whovianone ...it hurts so much ...my brain hurts!


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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I love it all. I think if the rest is this good, I'll probably need an extra scotch-guarded copy to keep the drool from causing moisture damage!  |
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Todd Luck Doomed to forever roam the black halls


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, I knew I missed the old coloring on the Valiant books but I never realized how much. Part of the fun of the first couple years of Valiant were the orginal colors. I know there's some technical reason they can't use the originals here (even though some of those issues were reprinted in the 90's) but I wish they'd tried to make it look closer to the old comic. The modern McColoring I see on every comic out there now put on those classic comics makes me cringe. It just doesn't work for me. I'm glad I already decided to sit this one out. |
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greg Doctor Holland, Man of the Datum


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Todd Luck wrote: | | Wow, I knew I missed the old coloring on the Valiant books but I never realized how much. Part of the fun of the first couple years of Valiant were the orginal colors. I know there's some technical reason they can't use the originals here (even though some of those issues were reprinted in the 90's) but I wish they'd tried to make it look closer to the old comic. The modern McColoring I see on every comic out there now put on those classic comics makes me cringe. It just doesn't work for me. I'm glad I already decided to sit this one out. |
Your loss... personally, I like a blue sky.  |
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magnusr I would hang a left...


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Heath wrote: |
Thanks, Greg and Dino! Great job on the computer coloring. I think it's some of the best computer coloring I've seen. It looks like great care was taken to stick with the original look and feel, but add a bit more flair to it too. I definitely like the recolored page 1 better than the original, but I think I like the original version of page 5 a little better - especially the explosion. The upper right panel is the only panel on that page that looks a lot better.
There was just something about that original water color by hand technique that I have always loved and so closely associated with Valiant. |
I agree.
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betterthanezra Wanna see an unpublished Shadowman page?


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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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I like the change...
Period.
-Brian |
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I also like the crispness of it. |
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muzzsucker Turok, or not to rock...


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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:45 am Post subject: |
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The watercolor style is so Valiant and I will miss it but after seeing these I'm really excited for this book. The first and last panels for page 5 are my faves. Not showy sfx panels but crisp, strong story telling. Coloring serves the story. Thats what Valiant is about.  |
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*SQUEE* VanHooked on phonics


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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| Looks good to me! Thanks for the preview. |
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TKWill Don't squeeze the Deathmate!


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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| Since I have had a little time to settle dwon after seeing this I look at it with mixed feelings. I am going to miss the watercolor style that VALIANT is known for, like it has been mentioned on many threads including this one, it was a small part of what got me to read VALIANT all those years ago and in some way part of what brought me back. The other part of me is okay with seeing it go. While it is hard for me to say that, there is more of a market for this book with eye-popping color and sharp detail. It is simply what a great deal of the market demands. IMO this change is what is part of what will be needed to bring new readers in to our little corner of the "Dead Universe" which is something that VALIANT will need in those crucial first months. I personally like the change, I have grown accustomed to newer books having this feel, and I welcome the change with open arms. |
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