What Valiant Re-Launch Plan Would You Support?

[shaxper]

Since the majority of the board has been so quiet on this one, let us know your thoughts so we can choose a decisive direction. There's a lot of thought generating happening in the members-only catagory, but it can't move beyond the drawing board without the support of others, whether creatively, economically, or (preferably) both.

[shaxper]

The plan is to get a universe of comics going that would continue the quality and spirit of Valiant. How, exactly, we do that is what's up for debate.

If you're asking about what we've been working on thus far, just check out the "Registered Members Only" area (viewable only to logged in users)

[comicguy]

I would be happy to contribute story ideas but I am not overly creative but I will but some money where my mouth is

[shaxper]

I would be happy to contribute story ideas but I am not overly creative but I will but some money where my mouth is

Well any and all suggestions are welcome. You could be like the guy in the 1970s who said "Don't kill off that Wolverine character. I like him cuz he's Canadian".


...Okay, it was John Byrne. But that's beside the point

[Todd Luck]

Can you please define what the questions mean by "original premise" before I vote?

[Jaknife]

original premise of the valiant universe. at least thats how i interpreted it.

[shaxper]

Oops. No, "original premise" as in a new premise. Distinct from the Old Valiant universe. The Valiant universe is option #1. Sorry for the confusion.

[Jaknife]

because Bloodshot 2004 was simply started, as opposed to thought out. by the time we began talking it out, forty members were working on 8 pages. chaos.

[shaxper]

If we cannot even get 'together' on writing a single Bloodshot 2004 issue, how do you guys propose to put comics together ? Money, planning, ideas and everything through the internet ? It is a huge cluster-fudge. Just curious.

If you're that curious, check out the entire section of the forum we have committed to it and see what's happening.

[X-O MattOwar]

If by some joint effort we could aquire an original character that would lend instant street cred to the project but its not a neccessity. I think the the focus for now is to create the same feel the Valiant universe had in an original universe.

[shaxper]

Something isn't adding up here. We have at least ten people working on the original premise in the other forum, so we must have more than five that would support it creatively.

If anyone hasn't seen Bob Layton's post in the other "let's restart Valiant" thread, he advises against purchasing Valiant characters at this time. Then again, he chalks any idea up as being "doomed to failure". But his point was that Acclaim will want a return on the characters they paid too much for right now, but they should go cheap when Acclaim collapses and the rights are acquired by creditors. If we could get an original premise going (big IF), we'd be in a position to pick up those characters with a real, working company to show for it, when that time came.


Anyway, if he majority is still inclined to start with a VH1 character or two, let's see someone initiate a plan for doing that. I'd definitely support it. But until we see an indication that it's doable, I do want to continue working on the new universe and characters. I believe it only makes sense.

[shaxper]

Well said, Knightt.

[DawgPhan]

Yeah I still have not made up my mind on this..I would like to see the comics that I love printed again, but I also we all know what happened with vh2 and vh3 and who says that we could do as good as that much less better....It would be cool to start our own universe and then in the future if there was a person who could fight robots I think that I know where we could go. I tend to agree with Knight on the fact that the Valiant collapse so not that long ago and people might still be upset. I think that first we would probably need to look at some cost analysis and see how many issues you would need to sell to break even...If we need to sell 5000 issues to break even I think that we are going to have a very hard time doing anything anyway. So lets see...for know I am going to have to go with not restarting the Valiant universe...hell who even knows if someone could get the rights...Arent most of them tied up in limbo right now...and MRF looks like someone is trying to make money off of him right now so I doubt that we could get him...also if those MRF hardcovers do well they might do some others and then we could for sure not get them...right now I am goign with our own universe based on some of the principles of the Valiant universe....good stories and not a lot of superheroes...no people flying around all the time and monsters always attacking the cities....

[Jaknife]

where did layton post this information?

[Rai-fan]

Hate to say it, but I wouldn't support a re-launch. 1) personal reasons--I'm about to start grad school & thus be broke &

2) (more importantly) I can't imagine it not being horrible.

Again, look at VH2/VH3. While I love about 25% of those books, the rest were wretched. And most die-hard fans on this board seem to think all of VH2/3 was an abomination.

Even _with_ the "dream-team" of Shooter/Starlin on U2K.

If U2K sales couldn't even support one 6 issue mini, there's no way 1-2 monthlies would have worked.

Bottom line: it's too soon. Wait another 8-10 years for mainstream fanboy nostalgia to kick in and the general comic book market to rebound & we'll see.

[shaxper]

That's certainly a fair point, and I appreciate your expressing it. A little healthy reality is always a good idea when considering an important decision.