Wizard #184 CGC price guide featuring Torque

dino · Post by **dino** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:17 pm

Now can anyone explain the gag to me?

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:22 pm

Kip Winger was the singer/bass player of a really bad hair metal band in the late '80's. Knowing that still doesn't make that gag funny.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:32 pm

It's still pretty cool to get some notoriety.

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:33 pm

Zero wrote:It's still pretty cool to get some notoriety.

but why kip winger...not like Torque looked anything like him...

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:33 pm

What keeps a rag like Wizard going anyway? I figured it would go the way of Hero Illustrated by now.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:51 pm

myron wrote:
Zero wrote:It's still pretty cool to get some notoriety.
but why kip winger...not like Torque looked anything like him...

No idea there... I just thought it was good that the book got some extra pub.

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:54 pm

The pub is nice but why the joke? Does Wizard still have a hate for Valiant?

dino · Post by **dino** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:13 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:What keeps a rag like Wizard going anyway? I figured it would go the way of Hero Illustrated by now.

Actually, this issue of Wizard (the 2007 preview) is a pretty good read. It feels a little like Wizard from back in the day.

dellamorte wrote:The pub is nice but why the joke? Does Wizard still have a hate for VALIANT?

I think they always have some kind of gag for that feature.

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:59 pm

Mike Judge often makes fun of Winger.

In Beavis and Butthead, Stewart was a character who looked up to Beavis and Butthead but was quite lame. He wore a Winger t-shirt to counter their usual Metallica and AC/DC shirts.

John Redcorn on King of the Hill was a roadie for Winger before he had a spiritual vision and became a professional healer/male escort.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:57 pm

I have a hard time totally bashing wizard.

They are the only comic based magazine and there actually is a good amount of information you can get from it.

Wizard briought me up to speed with what was happening with Green Lantern and Identity Crisis as I was getting back into comics, even made me pick up the books in TPB form to read them. (and I'm a Marvel guy)

It would be nice to have a few magazines to choose from, competition is always a good thing, but it's all there is.

I do think that, with the easy access to ebay and sales prices, they could keep their price guide more accurate.

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:19 pm

Chiclo wrote:Mike Judge often makes fun of Winger.

In Beavis and Butthead, Stewart was a character who looked up to Beavis and Butthead but was quite lame. He wore a Winger t-shirt to counter their usual Metallica and AC/DC shirts.

John Redcorn on King of the Hill was a roadie for Winger before he had a spiritual vision and became a professional healer/male escort.

The Wizard employee who made this graphic must have thought
that Torque looks a lot like Kip Winger.
(Sadly, this probably means that guy was a huge Winger fan...
guilty by association to a reference only a fan should know...)

Here's what Kip Winger looked like in 1992 (same date as Harbinger 6):

(...and since Dee Snider (of Twisted Sister) was a Wizard employee in the 1990s,
I shouldn't rule out that the Wizard employee who made this graphic
was none other than Kip Winger himself.)

muzzsucker · Post by **muzzsucker** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:30 pm

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:31 pm

greg wrote:...and since Dee Snider (of Twisted Sister) was a Wizard employee in the 1990s,
I shouldn't rule out that the Wizard employee who made this graphic
was none other than Kip Winger himself.)

Dee Snider worked for Wizard?

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:21 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
greg wrote:...and since Dee Snider (of Twisted Sister) was a Wizard employee in the 1990s,
I shouldn't rule out that the Wizard employee who made this graphic
was none other than Kip Winger himself.)
Dee Snider worked for Wizard?

I think so... I remember seeing him in Wizard in the mid-1990s...
usually in photos of the staff playing games in the office aisles.

He showed up enough to make me think he was working there,
not just "dropping by" for the fun of it.

Anyone else remember those Wizard's with Dee Snider in them?

D-Lite · Post by **D-Lite** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:40 pm

dellamorte wrote:The pub is nice but why the joke? Does Wizard still have a hate for VALIANT?

You think they have a hate for Valiant? The recent Magnus and Harbinger sidebars suggest otherwise. And I'm amazed that they still have Valiant titles listed in the price guide. Lots and lots of other good books don't get listed at all, but they seem to support Valiant.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:52 am

siren3-4 wrote:I have a hard time totally bashing wizard.

They are the only comic based magazine and there actually is a good amount of information you can get from it.

Is CBG (Comic Buyer's Guide) no longer being published? The last time I bought Wizard, I felt like I had totally wasted my money.

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:15 pm

Heath wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:I have a hard time totally bashing wizard.

They are the only comic based magazine and there actually is a good amount of information you can get from it.
Is CBG (Comic Buyer's Guide) no longer being published? The last time I bought Wizard, I felt like I had totally wasted my money.

CBG is still around, I believe it's "Comic Buyer's Monthly"...
same size as Wizard, but thicker and primarily on newsprint.
(Krause Publications)

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:50 pm

Heath wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:I have a hard time totally bashing wizard.

They are the only comic based magazine and there actually is a good amount of information you can get from it.
Is CBG (Comic Buyer's Guide) no longer being published? The last time I bought Wizard, I felt like I had totally wasted my money.

Me too, what a rag...

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:53 pm

greg wrote:
Heath wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:I have a hard time totally bashing wizard.

They are the only comic based magazine and there actually is a good amount of information you can get from it.
Is CBG (Comic Buyer's Guide) no longer being published? The last time I bought Wizard, I felt like I had totally wasted my money.
CBG is still around, I believe it's "Comic Buyer's Monthly"...
same size as Wizard, but thicker and primarily on newsprint.
(Krause Publications)

I didn't know that, I will have to check it out.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:56 pm

Heath wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:I have a hard time totally bashing wizard.

They are the only comic based magazine and there actually is a good amount of information you can get from it.
Is CBG (Comic Buyer's Guide) no longer being published? The last time I bought Wizard, I felt like I had totally wasted my money.

I look at it more like this . .

I had to stop buying all the DC titles after IC but In still kind of wonder what is happening in the books. I can count on Wizard to run some kind of article or update telling me what is going on.

They also rate TPB's that come out (like movie reviews) and that has helped m,e discover books that I wouldn't have read otherwise, Invincible, Fables . . .

So I feel like I do get something for the $ I dish out.

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:32 pm

D-Lite wrote:
dellamorte wrote:The pub is nice but why the joke? Does Wizard still have a hate for VALIANT?
You think they have a hate for VALIANT? The recent Magnus and Harbinger sidebars suggest otherwise. And I'm amazed that they still have VALIANT titles listed in the price guide. Lots and lots of other good books don't get listed at all, but they seem to support VALIANT.

I haven't read Wizard in a decade so I don't know what's going on now. I based the hate comment on the constant bashing they did after Valiant seemed to falter in the mid '90's. And while no press is bad I'd like to see a serious look at Valiant from them since so many people seem to listen to what they say good or bad.

dino · Post by **dino** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:32 am

D-Lite wrote:
dellamorte wrote:The pub is nice but why the joke? Does Wizard still have a hate for VALIANT?
You think they have a hate for VALIANT? The recent Magnus and Harbinger sidebars suggest otherwise. And I'm amazed that they still have VALIANT titles listed in the price guide. Lots and lots of other good books don't get listed at all, but they seem to support VALIANT.

Rufusharley · Post by **Rufusharley** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:36 am

dino wrote:
D-Lite wrote:
dellamorte wrote:The pub is nice but why the joke? Does Wizard still have a hate for VALIANT?
You think they have a hate for VALIANT? The recent Magnus and Harbinger sidebars suggest otherwise. And I'm amazed that they still have VALIANT titles listed in the price guide. Lots and lots of other good books don't get listed at all, but they seem to support VALIANT.

How current is that?

dino · Post by **dino** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:49 am

Rufusharley wrote:
dino wrote:
D-Lite wrote:
dellamorte wrote:The pub is nice but why the joke? Does Wizard still have a hate for VALIANT?
You think they have a hate for VALIANT? The recent Magnus and Harbinger sidebars suggest otherwise. And I'm amazed that they still have VALIANT titles listed in the price guide. Lots and lots of other good books don't get listed at all, but they seem to support VALIANT.

How current is that?

This month. Same issues as Torque.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:08 am

dino wrote:
Rufusharley wrote:
dino wrote:
D-Lite wrote:
dellamorte wrote:The pub is nice but why the joke? Does Wizard still have a hate for VALIANT?
You think they have a hate for VALIANT? The recent Magnus and Harbinger sidebars suggest otherwise. And I'm amazed that they still have VALIANT titles listed in the price guide. Lots and lots of other good books don't get listed at all, but they seem to support VALIANT.

How current is that?
This month. Same issues as Torque.

Don't forget though Rufus, its in the alternate wizard-pricing universe...so subtract around 50% to get the true price of a book