VALIANT Entertainment Licensed Comics

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:57 pm

Should VE license concepts from video games or TV shows to turn into comics?

If so, which ones should they go after?

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:28 am

Does DC have the rights to [adult swim]? I know they were doing the Space Ghost comics several years ago.

A good portion of the [as] fans seem to be appreciative of comic books.

In particular, I would think Venture Brothers would be a good comic product. Although the show is dead, Stroker and Hoop would make for an excellent comic.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:30 am

Hm... DC tends to make comics based on the Cartoon Network stuff, so who knows.

Thomas Crown · Post by **Thomas Crown** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:44 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:Should VE license concepts from video games or TV shows to turn into comics?

If so, which ones should they go after?

I have been doing a *SQUEE* load of research on trying to figure out how feasible VE is going to be. From the looks of it they have Venture Capital money Jason's Dad is a share holder in a VC firm so they can probably bleed a lot of money. For how long? Only they know and that's a different discussion, one of these days I'll post the numbers I have started to put together (they are in the red right now). However, look at it this way. If you add in any licensing of products as potential revenue I'm sure they can bleed $10 Million B4 the inventors start saying " What the f*ck".

Again this is only speculation based on my understanding of the inner workings of small/mid sized businesses so DO NOT takes this as fact.

Investors will want to see a return at some point, and licensing is an excellent way of achieving this. I’ll sleep on it and tell you tomorrow what properties I think they should license. But one of my first strategies would be to release a bunch of graphic novels to:

1. Get the buzz going on the return of Valiant
2. Generate much needed revenue
3. If revenue is BADLY needed release licensed products.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:55 am

Saw the title of the thread and thought we might be learning somethin. oh well.

Thomas Crown - you use your research and info and stuff to make me worry that a new VALIANT may not happen....

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:42 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:Hm... DC tends to make comics based on the Cartoon Network stuff, so who knows.

Isn't DC and Cartoon Network both owned by the same parent company - Warner Bros? So I would imagine any WB licensed material is out.

But should they even pursue material to license? Personally, I say no. Especially not cheezy stuff Nintendo or professional wrestling. The comic biz just isn't what it used to be and you can't publish a comic based on something else that is hot and the comic automatically be hot as well.

But there is an area that I think could be tapped for a potentially successful line of licensed comic books: 80's nostalgia. Specifically, 80's TV nostalgia. Or am I the only person that would buy a Knightt Rider or A-Team or Dukes of Hazzard comic book? Not silly looking kiddie books. But books that stay true to the source material, yet have dynamic artwork and witty writing. Could you imaging Ed Brubaker or JMS writing Knightt Rider with Jim Cheung drawing it? Or Peter David writing Dukes Of Hazzard and art by Lee Weeks? Or A-Team with Warren Ellis writing and Sean Chen drawing?

Am I the only one that thinks this is a good idea?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:45 am

80's nostalgia might work.

Top Cow has the A-Team license, though, and they're working on the movie.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:09 am

Heath wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:Hm... DC tends to make comics based on the Cartoon Network stuff, so who knows.
Isn't DC and Cartoon Network both owned by the same parent company - Warner Bros? So I would imagine any WB licensed material is out.

But should they even pursue material to license? Personally, I say no. Especially not cheezy stuff Nintendo or professional wrestling. The comic biz just isn't what it used to be and you can't publish a comic based on something else that is hot and the comic automatically be hot as well.

But there is an area that I think could be tapped for a potentially successful line of licensed comic books: 80's nostalgia. Specifically, 80's TV nostalgia. Or am I the only person that would buy a Knightt Rider or A-Team or Dukes of Hazzard comic book? Not silly looking kiddie books. But books that stay true to the source material, yet have dynamic artwork and witty writing. Could you imaging Ed Brubaker or JMS writing Knightt Rider with Jim Cheung drawing it? Or Peter David writing Dukes Of Hazzard and art by Lee Weeks? Or A-Team with Warren Ellis writing and Sean Chen drawing?

Am I the only one that thinks this is a good idea?

Er, Sean Chen drawing A-Team? I wonder what Sean Chen thinks about this idea?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:12 am

cobra_commander wrote:Er, Sean Chen drawing A-Team? I wonder what Sean Chen thinks about this idea?

He'll pity the fool who... um... er... I got nothing.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:43 am

I know exactly what license VALIANT should go for...

The Greatest American Hero.

Thomas Crown · Post by **Thomas Crown** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:11 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:I know exactly what license VALIANT should go for...

The Greatest American Hero.

I think a company already has GI Joe all locked down Devil's Own I think they are called.

Thomas Crown · Post by **Thomas Crown** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:18 am

leonmallett wrote:Saw the title of the thread and thought we might be learning somethin. oh well.

Thomas Crown - you use your research and info and stuff to make me worry that a new VALIANT may not happen....

Ha Ha

I'm such a pessimist sorry about that Leo. So far there is nothing saying it can't work they just need some decent pockets. I think there is a WAY better chance of this working because Valiant was a Universe and it has some fan base. If this was some random company starting from scratch trying to create a full universe I would say "good luck" it's a long road.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:21 am

Thomas Crown wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:I know exactly what license VALIANT should go for...

The Greatest American Hero.
I think a company already has GI Joe all locked down Devil's Own I think they are called.

Er, that's not the Greatest American Hero

Greatest American Hero@Wikipedia

Hinkley is a schoolteacher who encounters aliens who give him a special bright red suit which endows him with superhuman abilities. The novelty of the show was based on Hinkley's inability to properly learn to use the suit, and even learn its various capabilities, other than by trial and error, due to his having clumsily lost the instruction manual.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:33 am

Well, it seems Serenity/Firefly has a large enough "cult" following...

-slym

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:41 am

slym2none wrote:Well, it seems Serenity/Firefly has a large enough "cult" following...

-slym

Yeah, but Dark Horse has that one as they have a long lasting relationship with Fox.

I think Universal doesn't have anything going on with comic book publishers except for Dynamite's Battlestar Galactica comics.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:57 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:
slym2none wrote:Well, it seems Serenity/Firefly has a large enough "cult" following...

-slym
Yeah, but Dark Horse has that one as they have a long lasting relationship

Oops... didn't know that!

-slym (hasn't been in a comic shop in months...)

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:03 pm

Thomas Crown wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:I know exactly what license VALIANT should go for...

The Greatest American Hero.
I think a company already has GI Joe all locked down Devil's Own I think they are called.

GI Joe was "A Real American Hero."

Yo, JOE!!

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:16 pm

Thomas Crown wrote:...this is only speculation based on my understanding of the inner workings of small/mid sized businesses so DO NOT takes this as fact.

There's a lot of that going around lately.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:10 pm

Heath wrote:
Thomas Crown wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:I know exactly what license VALIANT should go for...

The Greatest American Hero.
I think a company already has GI Joe all locked down Devil's Own I think they are called.
GI Joe was "A Real American Hero."

Yo, JOE!!

Now he knows...

And knowing is half the battle!

G I JOOOOOOOOOE!!

Thomas Crown · Post by **Thomas Crown** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:01 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
Heath wrote:
Thomas Crown wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:I know exactly what license VALIANT should go for...

The Greatest American Hero.
I think a company already has GI Joe all locked down Devil's Own I think they are called.
GI Joe was "A Real American Hero."

Yo, JOE!!
Now he knows...

And knowing is half the battle!

G I JOOOOOOOOOE!!

- Aiight I'm walking away from this conversation now, i got so schooled.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:06 pm

Thomas Crown wrote:- Aiight I'm walking away from this conversation now, i got so schooled.

Nah, don't go. Post what you were gonna post.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:12 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:
Thomas Crown wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:I know exactly what license VALIANT should go for...

The Greatest American Hero.
I think a company already has GI Joe all locked down Devil's Own I think they are called.
Er, that's not the Greatest American Hero

Greatest American Hero@Wikipedia

Hinkley is a schoolteacher who encounters aliens who give him a special bright red suit which endows him with superhuman abilities. The novelty of the show was based on Hinkley's inability to properly learn to use the suit, and even learn its various capabilities, other than by trial and error, due to his having clumsily lost the instruction manual.

I LOVED that show so much!

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:17 pm

I was thinking along the lines of Charles in Charge or Threes Company..hahah Just teasing.. or was that really Harbinger (Sting in Charge) and Trinity Angels?? LOL

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:51 pm

leonmallett wrote:
I LOVED that show so much!

I think it fits perfectly with VALIANT.

Another good license would be The Powers of Matthew Star.

And what about Misfits of Science?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:00 am

Oooooooh... how about AUTOMAN?!?

VALIANT Entertainment should go after Automan, Greatest American Hero, Misfits of Science, and Powers of Matthew Star for a line of licensed comics set in a real world setting.

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