Confession time…

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:06 pm

Okay, this ought to be fun.

Here’s the place, now’s the time, to confess something about your interest in Valiant that you’ve never had the guts to say before. If you believe that X-O #68 was a brilliant way to end the ‘verse, or you think that Archer and Armstrong got better after BWS left, then let everyone know! (and no, saying “I liked Bad Penn" isn’t a revelation, as most of us did think it was pretty good stuff for post-Unity)

Now let’s all keep it friendly…no making fun of people for their choices. This is a time of acceptance, as long as the person is being honest. Feel free to respond with a

or a

, but don’t get too mean. Let’s air our dirty laundry!

If something is a major story spoiler, please let us know.

I’ll start:

I think Rai #0 is a little overrated. I like it, I champion it as a must-read, but when you think about it, a) it was plotted, not written, by Shooter, and we have no idea what they changed, and b) it’s all a set up to Rai and the Future Force, which was a huge disappointment.

SPOILER FROM AFTER MAGNUS #40 -- I liked the idea of Armstrong being the Eternal Geomancer. He had a very Buck-like attitude, and it explained a lot about why he and Gilad never got along. END SPOILER

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:13 pm

Shakespeare wrote: I’ll start:

I think Rai #0 is a little overrated. I like it, I champion it as a must-read, but when you think about it, a) it was plotted, not written, by Shooter, and we have no idea what they changed, and b) it’s all a set up to Rai and the Future Force, which was a huge disappointment.

Allow me to edit:

Shakespeare Remixed wrote: I’ll start:

I think Rai #0 is a 100% overrated. I hate it, and when you think about it, a) it was plotted, not written, by Shooter, and we have no idea what they changed, and b) it’s all a set up to Rai and the Future Force, which was a huge disappointment, to be nice.

Otherwise, spot on.

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:19 pm

Allow me to edit:

Shakespeare Remixed wrote: I’ll start:

I think Rai #0 is a 100% overrated. I hate it, and when you think about it, a) it was plotted, not written, by Shooter, and we have no idea what they changed, and b) it’s all a set up to Rai and the Future Force, which was a huge disappointment, to be nice.
Otherwise, spot on.

The above quote is not endorsed by Shakespeare nor are past results indicative of future performance, professional driver on a closed course, do not attept, if you have erections lasting for more than four hours, consult your physician.

IMJ · Post by **IMJ** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:38 pm

Shakespeare wrote:
Allow me to edit:

Shakespeare Remixed wrote: I’ll start:

I think Rai #0 is a 100% overrated. I hate it, and when you think about it, a) it was plotted, not written, by Shooter, and we have no idea what they changed, and b) it’s all a set up to Rai and the Future Force, which was a huge disappointment, to be nice.
Otherwise, spot on.
The above quote is not endorsed by Shakespeare nor are past results indicative of future performance, professional driver on a closed course, do not attept, if you have erections lasting for more than four hours, consult your physician.

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought that you were gonna tell us that you really didn't write all those plays!
-whew!- God, that woulda been heartbreaking....

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:23 pm

I would agree that Rai #1 is over-rated. I haven't quite got the animosity toward it that Unblessed does, but I don't like it very much.

It felt too forced. Too much crammed into so little space. If it had been a mini-series or somthing it would have been better I think.

Also, the world and space is a big place. It's not very convincing that all these character's futures would be so tightly knit together and everything would be so neat.

Aric blowing off Geoff's request was totally out of character.

Oh...and the whole "Armstrong walked off the panel and was never heard from again" is pretty lame. Same for the "Good Skin flew off the panel and was never seen again"

Other than that I liked it. Armorless Old Aric busting through the door and slicing up Harada was a huge shock and it's still powerful to read today.

The scene with Phil and Gayle was amazing.

I thought H.A.R.D Corps leaving earth was a really wierd and a really cool development....

which leads me to my own confession....

I liked Psi-Lords

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:30 pm

Tim Petty wrote: which leads me to my own confession....

I liked Psi-Lords

OMG....no way.

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:31 pm

Tim Petty wrote:
which leads me to my own confession....

I liked Psi-Lords

Allow me to do the honors

dac55 · Post by **dac55** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:32 pm

I thought that the last 4 books in Magnus sucked. And am glad I only traded for them because I would have never bought them if I had read them first.

David

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:36 pm

ok...ok..

here it goes....

how many times can Solar accidently give someone powers....

Erica.... ok

Bender.... ummm.... I guess.... (after all the trouble with Erica??????)

The dude on the cover with Phil and Gayle shouting with the Christmas Tree (he had a yellow containment suit????) ....... really..... You accidently gave someone else power...... again....

me no likeo-

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:36 pm

dac55 wrote:I thought that the last 4 books in Magnus sucked. And am glad I only traded for them because I would have never bought them if I had read them first.

David

You can thank Giffen for that.

dac55 · Post by **dac55** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:52 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
dac55 wrote:I thought that the last 4 books in Magnus sucked. And am glad I only traded for them because I would have never bought them if I had read them first.

David
You can thank Giffen for that.

At this time I would really like to thank Mr. Giffen for the crappy Magnus books.

David

myron · Post by **myron** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:51 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
dac55 wrote:I thought that the last 4 books in Magnus sucked. And am glad I only traded for them because I would have never bought them if I had read them first.

David
You can thank Giffen for that.

oh...and bad they were...

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:00 pm

scared me for life.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:24 pm

It was as if Giffen secrectly hated Magnus and set out to destroy everything that made the character great.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:13 am

IMJ wrote:When I saw the title of this thread, I thought that you were gonna tell us that you really didn't write all those plays!
-whew!- God, that woulda been heartbreaking....

Pfft... everyone knows that Edward de Vere really wrote all those plays and poems.

-slym (

)

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:15 am

My big confession is...

I actually hate Rai, I'm just in it for the money.

-slym

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:49 am

I really enjoyed the first dozen or so issues of HARD Corps. And I have not yet read an issue of Magnus.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:54 am

leonmallett wrote:I really enjoyed the first dozen or so issues of HARD Corps. And I have not yet read an issue of Magnus.

Same here, I really dig the early HARD Corps issues but it is no 'confession' for me. I like what I like... and it was the HARD Corps.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:03 am

I feel have detected a lot negativity about HARD Corps on the forums. Glad to know I am not alone Knightt!

Rufusharley · Post by **Rufusharley** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:56 am

I'm really not a big Harbinger fan.

I accept it only because it's one of the origionals. Again

. It's hard for me to really place my finger on what exactly i dislike about it. I hate to say it but i think it could have been written better. Or maybe it was hard to really get to know multiple main characters. But i liked HARD Corps so ..... i don't know...

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:01 am

leonmallett wrote:I feel have detected a lot negativity about HARD Corps on the forums. Glad to know I am not alone Knightt!

BOO YAA

Being in the Army just about 20 years now, I realized that there were not too many books about Army guys... and back then, I just thought it was cool, the whole concept everything. Perhaps there was not much purpose to it but I still liked it just fine.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:16 am

Haven't yet started reading Armorines, Knightt. Any thoughts? I know I will end up getting the series at some point I am sure.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:26 am

leonmallett wrote:Haven't yet started reading Armorines, Knightt. Any thoughts? I know I will end up getting the series at some point I am sure.

Hey I really liked them as well... even for Marines

But the idea to me was pretty sound but I think it was hard to weave military units into the Valiant universe effectively, still there was some pretty good elements to it though... as long as you have read some of the 'teen' numbered X-O Manowar books, Armorines makes sense... personally, I liked them as well. But as with HARD Corps and Armorines, the tail end of the books was crappy as with most Valiant books... the ending is painful, no pun intended.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:56 am

Cheers for the insight fella. As a civilian ('I'm a lover not a fighter' - and probably not a good one at that) it is interesting to read the view of someone with a military background in relation to books such as these.

Vault-Keeper · Post by **Vault-Keeper** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:00 am

I liked Valiant Vision.

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