When Valiant makes a come back....

[inmyblood]

I hope they'll use the wide spectrum of colors they've used in the past. I enjoy looking at the bright colors that they used. It seems at the time no one else was doing that.

[magnusr]

I hope they'll use the wide spectrum of colors they've used in the past. I enjoy looking at the bright colors that they used. It seems at the time no one else was doing that.

Agree. And the new owners are among the biggest fans of the Valiant coloring with an impressive private collection.

/Magnus

[Vault-Keeper]

Agree. And the new owners are among the biggest fans of the VALIANT coloring with an impressive private collection.

/Magnus

Yeah...I'm glad I got a good assortment of colors off Hillman before that big deal went down.

(but not enough, of course...)

[Ian Sokoliwski]

Do you guys have any idea how rare it is to have colours and colouring commented on about funnybooks? I'm really impressed!

[magnusr]

Do you guys have any idea how rare it is to have colours and colouring commented on about funnybooks? I'm really impressed!

I would think it's getting better all the time. I used to be on the comicart-l email list (had to give it up, too much off-topics), and when I tried to bring up color art, I was almost rediculed. What none of the "snobs" realised was that not long ago, any comic art was frowned upon, just like they frowned upon color art. Then some people started recognicing its special qualities, but inking was still considered an uninteresting part of the whole. Then the inked art was recogniced, but not coloring. Now I see more and more discussions about the importance of the coloring. I think it's about to get the recognition it deserves.

/Magnus

[Ian Sokoliwski]

True, it is getting better. It is still notable when it is the subject of a discussion, though.

[greg]

True, it is getting better. It is still notable when it is the subject of a discussion, though.

Studying what made pre-Unity VALIANT books so great, it would be impossible
to overlook the impact of Janet "JayJay" Jackson's hand-painted colors.

They gave a "look" to the pages that enhanced the inks, rather than "filled them in".

Comic book coloring is either art or it's paint-by-numbers.
Many older comics look like coloring books filled in by semi-professionals,
and newer comics can literally look like they're just "filled in" digitally.

I don't know much about creating art, but I know that the sky is rarely
the same color from horizon to overhead, that walls usually have shading
somewhere on them, that a lightbulb affects colors and shadows in a room...
and a lot of current comics look like none of these things matter.
Wall=brown, sky=blue... and done.

JayJay's coloring work is art.

It set a standard for VALIANT that is a very high bar to reach.

Today, artists like Alex Ross and Mark Sparacio primarily
make me think of coloring... rather than pens and ink.

I don't know a lot about comic book art collecting...
but if the inks are so important... then why aren't all these
comic books being sold in black & white?

[slym2none]

Well said, almost eloquent, Greg!





-slym

[Daniel Jackson]

True, it is getting better. It is still notable when it is the subject of a discussion, though.

Studying what made pre-Unity VALIANT books so great, it would be impossible
to overlook the impact of Janet "JayJay" Jackson's hand-painted colors.

They gave a "look" to the pages that enhanced the inks, rather than "filled them in".

Comic book coloring is either art or it's paint-by-numbers.
Many older comics look like coloring books filled in by semi-professionals,
and newer comics can literally look like they're just "filled in" digitally.

I don't know much about creating art, but I know that the sky is rarely
the same color from horizon to overhead, that walls usually have shading
somewhere on them, that a lightbulb affects colors and shadows in a room...
and a lot of current comics look like none of these things matter.
Wall=brown, sky=blue... and done.

JayJay's coloring work is art.

It set a standard for VALIANT that is a very high bar to reach.

You're right, without a doubt she is one of the best colorists Valiant ever had. I remember in some of the early Valiant editorials Jim used to do, he mentions Janet and her Dr. Martin water coloring process and how original and unique it made the look of Valiant.

[slym2none]

True, it is getting better. It is still notable when it is the subject of a discussion, though.

Studying what made pre-Unity VALIANT books so great, it would be impossible
to overlook the impact of Janet "JayJay" Jackson's hand-painted colors.

They gave a "look" to the pages that enhanced the inks, rather than "filled them in".

Comic book coloring is either art or it's paint-by-numbers.
Many older comics look like coloring books filled in by semi-professionals,
and newer comics can literally look like they're just "filled in" digitally.

I don't know much about creating art, but I know that the sky is rarely
the same color from horizon to overhead, that walls usually have shading
somewhere on them, that a lightbulb affects colors and shadows in a room...
and a lot of current comics look like none of these things matter.
Wall=brown, sky=blue... and done.

JayJay's coloring work is art.

It set a standard for VALIANT that is a very high bar to reach.

You're right, without a doubt she is one of the best colorists VALIANT ever had. I remember in some of the early VALIANT editorials Jim used to do, he mentions Janet and her Dr. Martin water coloring process and how original and unique it made the look of VALIANT.

I believe this was mentioned at the VALIANT panel in NYC this year, DJ, something about how they had to change one of the processes of putting the books together because whatever they had to replace didn't let the look of JJ's original colours come through. So, the old VALIANT could have used an inferior machine/process/whatever and still had a good book, but they went the extra step and created a great one.





-slym (coulda used superior, but didn't want to sound pretentious)