Bound books

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:26 pm

IanAlexavier wrote:You mean to actually bind the book yourelf? Hmmm... I wonder how much it would cost for the machines and such, plus the starting materials to bind a book?

You guys go ahead and give it a whirl.. let me know how it goes

I already have my second job

Ill let Phantom take the lead here, i know he is leaps and bounds ahead when it comes to being good with his hands. So im told.

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:04 pm

machines ~ ha.
machines fear me.

I would blow my own trumpet if I had one.

Yes I am going to do it myself, after christmas.
Have two months to fully renovate a house and build a massive extention, which means it will take 3 months

Then start binding, Demon run frist. then so lesser runs. If it works, I will do valiant.
The only thing I cannot figure is lettering, so mine maybe blank but with stevetroppers cool dust jackets

I think hardcovers are the way to go. So coveniant for those who actually read the comics regulary.

Want to bind in golds, and some vvss.

But you never know, I Might be crap at it and not go ahead. But usually I am good at such things.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:21 pm

Im cheering for you, Phantom!

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:19 pm

The official Valiant bound books...

http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24559

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:34 pm

Thanks for the heads-up, Greg. Very nice set of books!

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:27 pm

I like how Library Binding has a nice PDF for their prices:

http://www.librarybinding.com/images/comicprices2.pdf

dave · Post by **dave** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:47 am

you are planning on binding golds and vvss???

Fanboy375 · Post by **Fanboy375** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:49 am

Neil,

What font did you use for your Flex Mentallo book? It looks GREAT!!!

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:40 am

Fanboy375 wrote:Neil,

What font did you use for your Flex Mentallo book? It looks GREAT!!!

Library just matched what i used on the design.
Though check your PM if you like that Flex Book you should check out the one Larry Young (of AiT fame) had doen at Capital, best die stamp ever.

-Neil

Fanboy375 · Post by **Fanboy375** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:01 am

I emailed Jim and this is what he said.

"The closest Font we have is Tempo Bold, 24 point for the spine and 48 point for the front cover. This will be hand set type and it ups the cost by $10 for the hand set and $4.95 to stamp the front cover.

There is no longer any yellow buckram as this was one of the colors that was discontinued."

whovianone · Post by **whovianone** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:58 am

Just picked up a full Howard The Duck reader run, and I'm thinking of binding them and one of my Valiant sets too. Might try first with Hard Corps.

Don't ask me why, probably just because it's one I have multiple copies of.

How much would two bound books, one with a Valiant logo stamp, and no other frills cost do you think? And, is it best to do 2 or 3 at a time to save on shipping or is shipping pretty decent?

Fanboy375 · Post by **Fanboy375** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:04 am

whovianone wrote:Just picked up a full Howard The Duck reader run, and I'm thinking of binding them and one of my Valiant sets too. Might try first with Hard Corps. Don't ask me why, probably just because it's one I have multiple copies of.

How much would two bound books, one with a Valiant logo stamp, and no other frills cost do you think? And, is it best to do 2 or 3 at a time to save on shipping or is shipping pretty decent?

It is best to due 3 to 4 at a time is my understanding.

Basic book is $15.00 from LBC (for about 20 to 25 comics). You DEFINITELY want Head/Tail Bands at $4.00.

The cost to use the spine die is $4.95. The die is one inch so the thickness needs to be at least 1.5 inches for the comics.

The cost to use the Cover die is $4.95. The die is 5 inches wide.

Shipping is extra

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:51 pm

whovianone wrote:Just picked up a full Howard The Duck reader run, and I'm thinking of binding them and one of my Valiant sets too. Might try first with Hard Corps. Don't ask me why, probably just because it's one I have multiple copies of.

How much would two bound books, one with a Valiant logo stamp, and no other frills cost do you think? And, is it best to do 2 or 3 at a time to save on shipping or is shipping pretty decent?

If you are doing HC I would also get the Harby crossover issues. makes it a 32 issue book. I know Steve Topper did his in 2 16 book sets. Me I rip all the ads and backcovers off to save space and got it into one Omnibus edition. Havent sent it in but its prepped.

I have books with both the head/tail bands and without. they dont really add anything of value but they do look better.
All together Fanboy had it priced out right you figure
15X2=30.00
4.95*1=4.95 Spine Logo or Front Cover
4.95*2=9.90 for Both

The best bet to start is anywhere between 2-4 books.
I ship to Waco using the priority boxes with no weight restriction. So shipping is 8.95 more for tracking and all the rest.

Library will call you back in a couple of weeks with a total of what everything costs including shipping back to you.

-Neil

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:34 pm

Whovi is getting the itch

Stick with us bro, you wont go wrong

I was a bit nervous my first time as well.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:19 pm

So Im getting ready to send in a few more books..and Im working on my Ninjak books.. Im seriously thinking about sending it in as one large volume.

It is 1.5 inches as it sits.. thats not too much is it?

To get it that low I had to go through and take out all the back covers and editorial pages.. I then went through and took out all of the double sided advert pages. I think I got them all LOL

What do you guys think?

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:37 pm

Since you removed all of the ads and got it down to 1.5 inches, it should be fine. The larger books I've done are with all ads and covers, etc. and makes for a hefty book. 1.5 inches is probably the best size -- lots of material without being cumbersome.

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:45 pm

Ill let Phantom take the lead here, i know he is leaps and bounds ahead when it comes to being good with his hands. So im told.

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So I met this guy trought the internet.
We meet up, with another friend of his

we talk
and such

Then he goes and tell the message board I am good with my hands

What was in that tea

'cause I cannot recall what happened

Separate topic. Cheers for the info. No bigger than 1.5 inch.
No rude comments. We are no talking about binding comics..
I do recall someone saying a minium size ~ what was it (or how many issues).
Ianaxexavier didn't you bid a run, but thought it was to small????

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:41 pm

Yes.. I separately bound psi lords and geomancer.. I should have combined them. Save yourself some cash and make those into one book.. Maybe even a flip book LOL..

I think one of the binding masters, Neil or Steve, has a pic in this thread of their combined book.. It looks real good!

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:42 pm

Steve Topper wrote:Since you removed all of the ads and got it down to 1.5 inches, it should be fine. The larger books I've done are with all ads and covers, etc. and makes for a hefty book. 1.5 inches is probably the best size -- lots of material without being cumbersome.

Thanks for the help... I think Ill go with that.. one big Ninjak book

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:01 am

IanAlexavier wrote:Yes.. I separately bound psi lords and geomancer.. I should have combined them. Save yourself some cash and make those into one book.. Maybe even a flip book LOL..

I think one of the binding masters, Neil or Steve, has a pic in this thread of their combined book.. It looks real good!

That would be steve.
As for binding, as my New X-Men by morrison run is one of my favorite runs of the book ever, i am going through Capital Bindery. As they already had a die created I want to use, it makes sense for me to pay their higher price as for this run I wanted Handlettering, Panel Bands, Head Tail Bands So in reality I am only paying about $15 more per book, plus there were some weird issues with the books being printed at different sizes and with Capital I can ensure that the books are trimmed to be the same size on my shelf and that the lettering will match up.

Though i have in my box ready to go once Ninjak, Unity, The Visitor.
I have also been hording Bloodshot #1 and am cutting off the chromium, that way once I get all three books done I can glue the chromium onto the front cover myself, I have been testing with the buckram and reading up on other forums on what glues work best. I think the results look really cool.

-Neil

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:07 am

That Bloodshot idea sounds cool!.. Im not sure if Id want to waste a good book to do that though

Fanboy375 · Post by **Fanboy375** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:53 am

ncameron wrote:
IanAlexavier wrote:Yes.. I separately bound psi lords and geomancer.. I should have combined them. Save yourself some cash and make those into one book.. Maybe even a flip book LOL..

I think one of the binding masters, Neil or Steve, has a pic in this thread of their combined book.. It looks real good!
That would be steve.
As for binding, as my New X-Men by morrison run is one of my favorite runs of the book ever, i am going through Capital Bindery. As they already had a die created I want to use, it makes sense for me to pay their higher price as for this run I wanted Handlettering, Panel Bands, Head Tail Bands So in reality I am only paying about $15 more per book, plus there were some weird issues with the books being printed at different sizes and with Capital I can ensure that the books are trimmed to be the same size on my shelf and that the lettering will match up.

Though i have in my box ready to go once Ninjak, Unity, The Visitor.
I have also been hording Bloodshot #1 and am cutting off the chromium, that way once I get all three books done I can glue the chromium onto the front cover myself, I have been testing with the buckram and reading up on other forums on what glues work best. I think the results look really cool.

-Neil

Check this out to go along with putting the bloodshot card on the front.

http://marvelmasterworksfansite.yuku.co ... nicer.html

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:27 pm

Couldn't the bindery add the chromium to the cover as well?

TravAzz · Post by **TravAzz** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:29 am

After nearly 4 months, my Valiant books were finally completed. They are being shipped out this morning and I should have them by Friday. They do have both the cover and spine stamp, so I will definitely post pics when they arrive!

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:46 am

TravAzz wrote:After nearly 4 months, my Valiant books were finally completed. They are being shipped out this morning and I should have them by Friday. They do have both the cover and spine stamp, so I will definitely post pics when they arrive!

cool.