Why buy the later issues of VALIANT?

[dellamorte]

I think Greg has the best idea. Read each book until you can't take any more then just stop. Some books you will probably make it til the end and some you won't even come close on.

[The Mighty Drew]

Well, I figured out what to do. I am going to try to be a VH1 completist, yet still try to be a cheap *SQUEE*. I found some VH1 stuff in the quarter boxes today, and the X-O trade Blue Variant at half cover price.

I mean, come on. Comics for a quarter? If I can get most of VH1 this way, then why the hell not. The key is just to have self control and not get too aggressive with it.

Of course, if a relaunch occurs in the midst of my laid-back collecting, I'm sure that I'll eat those words.

[Elveen]

I mean, come on. Comics for a quarter? If I can get most of VH1 this way, then why the hell not. The key is just to have self control and not get too aggressive with it.

VALIANTS for a quater, how can you go wrong

My LCS had a few old books for .50, but they were not in good condition...

but before I moved, a LCS by me had multiple copies of of valiants in NM condition... but they were buried in the back, under tons of long boxes...(and I had to do the lifting and digging) I am going back out to my old stomping ground for my fantasy football draft, I hope I can stop by and see if he still has his back issues.

In fact, I will go and check it out.

Hopefully I will be as lucky as you, oh mighty one.

[Daniel Jackson]

I mean, come on. Comics for a quarter? If I can get most of VH1 this way, then why the hell not. The key is just to have self control and not get too aggressive with it.

VALIANTS for a quater, how can you go wrong

My LCS had a few old books for .50, but they were not in good condition...

but before I moved, a LCS by me had multiple copies of of valiants in NM condition... but they were buried in the back, under tons of long boxes...(and I had to do the lifting and digging) I am going back out to my old stomping ground for my fantasy football draft, I hope I can stop by and see if he still has his back issues.

In fact, I will go and check it out.

Hopefully I will be as lucky as you, oh mighty one.

Just look at it as a kind of treasure hunt. Most shops will either have nothing or overpriced stuff, but once in a while you hit the jackpot.

[leonmallett]

Just look at it as a kind of treasure hunt. Most shops will either have nothing or overpriced stuff, but once in a while you hit the jackpot.

Was ebay devised primarily for VALIANT collectors to pore over?

[Brother J]

Just look at it as a kind of treasure hunt. Most shops will either have nothing or overpriced stuff, but once in a while you hit the jackpot.

Was ebay devised primarily for VALIANT collectors to pore over?

I know you were joking, but wasn't eBay created by some lady selling Beanie Babies?

[Schmakt]

it was PEZ dispensers, actually...

but the first item sold was a broken laser pointer for, like, $14.00...

[Elveen]

I mean, come on. Comics for a quarter? If I can get most of VH1 this way, then why the hell not. The key is just to have self control and not get too aggressive with it.

VALIANTS for a quater, how can you go wrong

My LCS had a few old books for .50, but they were not in good condition...

but before I moved, a LCS by me had multiple copies of of valiants in NM condition... but they were buried in the back, under tons of long boxes...(and I had to do the lifting and digging) I am going back out to my old stomping ground for my fantasy football draft, I hope I can stop by and see if he still has his back issues.

In fact, I will go and check it out.

Hopefully I will be as lucky as you, oh mighty one.

Just look at it as a kind of treasure hunt. Most shops will either have nothing or overpriced stuff, but once in a while you hit the jackpot.

ARRRR me matey... I'll be on the look out for some of that Valiant booty!

[Daniel Jackson]

I mean, come on. Comics for a quarter? If I can get most of VH1 this way, then why the hell not. The key is just to have self control and not get too aggressive with it.

VALIANTS for a quater, how can you go wrong

My LCS had a few old books for .50, but they were not in good condition...

but before I moved, a LCS by me had multiple copies of of valiants in NM condition... but they were buried in the back, under tons of long boxes...(and I had to do the lifting and digging) I am going back out to my old stomping ground for my fantasy football draft, I hope I can stop by and see if he still has his back issues.

In fact, I will go and check it out.

Hopefully I will be as lucky as you, oh mighty one.

Just look at it as a kind of treasure hunt. Most shops will either have nothing or overpriced stuff, but once in a while you hit the jackpot.

ARRRR me matey... I'll be on the look out for some of that VALIANT booty!

Just wait till you see a Harby Pink or Magnus #0 lying in some back issue bin with a buck a piece on both, you'll see what I mean then.

[dac55]

Well, I figured out what to do. I am going to try to be a VH1 completist, yet still try to be a cheap *SQUEE*. I found some VH1 stuff in the quarter boxes today, and the X-O trade Blue Variant at half cover price.

I mean, come on. Comics for a quarter? If I can get most of VH1 this way, then why the hell not. The key is just to have self control and not get too aggressive with it.

Of course, if a relaunch occurs in the midst of my laid-back collecting, I'm sure that I'll eat those words.

Same here MD. I only get the later books by trade or realy cheap. There not worth much in my book.

David

[Second_Death]

You need to at least try them anyway. If you decide that they are not what you expect from Valiant, just resell them to another fan for them to try.

[The Mighty Drew]

So today, I was at a local comic convention. I started my dig through various 50 cent boxes for all of the Valiants I missed.

I had a nice healthy stack of later X-O Manowar, Eternal Warrior, Bloodshot, and one or two Shadowman issues. Also found some VH2 stuff.

And I put almost all of it back.

I was sitting there, flipping through a couple of the later X-O and Eternal Warrior issues, and I had a moment of clarity.

"What the hell am I doing??????"

Granted, I'm at a place in my life right now where I shouldn't be spending any extra cash anyway, and I think that had alot to do with it as well. I was just flipping through it, and it seemed so far removed from what I had fallen in love with, that it just didn't seem to make any sense.

What I did do, was follow some advice that I read somewhere in this thread. There was a Bloodshot run that picked up from exactly where I left off. Numbers 15-21 to be exact. I also picked up the next issue of X-O I needed, Eternal Warrior Yearbook #2, and the Harbinger Trade. (For 50 cents!)

This seemed to make more sense to me. I think this is the best way for me to resume my Valiant collcting: sequentially from where I left off. Granted, it will take a hell of a lot longer, but It will be a good way for me to avoid buying poop.

Thanks for all the discussion and advice!

Drew

[leonmallett]

Mighty Drew - you sound SOOOO much more disciplined than me.

You do reinforce my view that there are better bargains to be found at cons/shows in the US than elsewhere (ie here in the UK). Oh well.

[tarheelmarine]

But now I am FULLY involved in the VALIANT universe... I have already decided that I need to have all the books (VH1), just so I can read them all.
My questions are:
1) do I need the variants (golds, plants, reds, ect) if I can read the book, do I need the same book with a differetn cover?

2) Am I eventually going to get into VH2 and the Acclaim stuff.


JSYK, I am still undecided on ? #1, and I can see myself getting into VH2 after my VH1 is done...

We'll see......

I agree about the getting all the issues, yep you have to go after golds and variants, and even though the CEAR is pricey I want one and will get one eventually.

My exposure to Vh2 was thru revelations and unity 2k because I got it for .50 a piece at a convention. Unless I see it at those prices, I won't mess with it in the future.

[leonmallett]

I agree about the getting all the issues, yep you have to go after golds and variants, and even though the CEAR is pricey I want one and will get one eventually.

My exposure to Vh2 was thru revelations and unity 2k because I got it for .50 a piece at a convention. Unless I see it at those prices, I won't mess with it in the future.

I've seen mention of the CEAR a few times - any chance of an explanation as to what this is, please?

We could do with a glossary for newbies like me!

[slym2none]

I agree about the getting all the issues, yep you have to go after golds and variants, and even though the CEAR is pricey I want one and will get one eventually.

My exposure to Vh2 was thru revelations and unity 2k because I got it for .50 a piece at a convention. Unless I see it at those prices, I won't mess with it in the future.

I've seen mention of the CEAR a few times - any chance of an explanation as to what this is, please?

We could do with a glossary for newbies like me!

Chaos Effect Alpha Red, the "red" variant of this book. It's a cousin to the Unity #0 Red, in the fact that there were only 5000 or less made of this "dealer incentive," and they are the only red variants VALIANT produced. For some reason, the CEAR tends to bring more money than a Unity Red - I guess because they rarely come up for sale.

BTW - there is some off-the-wall thread with terms that seem to be only used here in our little world here. Maybe someone else can link it up for me, it was started rather recently.....



-slym

[leonmallett]

Chaos Effect Alpha Red, the "red" variant of this book. It's a cousin to the Unity #0 Red, in the fact that there were only 5000 or less made of this "dealer incentive," and they are the only red variants VALIANT produced. For some reason, the CEAR tends to bring more money than a Unity Red - I guess because they rarely come up for sale.

BTW - there is some off-the-wall thread with terms that seem to be only used here in our little world here. Maybe someone else can link it up for me, it was started rather recently.....



-slym

Thanks Slym. now if we can get greg to sticky a glossary all will be resolved.

[Brother J]

Chaos Effect Alpha Red, the "red" variant of this book. It's a cousin to the Unity #0 Red, in the fact that there were only 5000 or less made of this "dealer incentive," and they are the only red variants VALIANT produced. For some reason, the CEAR tends to bring more money than a Unity Red - I guess because they rarely come up for sale.

According to Greg's numbers, Unity Red's print run is somewhere between 2,500 and 5,000, while the CEAR is 2,500 or less. So the CEAR is supposedly a little scarcer. That doesn't make up for the fact that the Unity Red is cooler, though!

[cobra_commander]

it seemed so far removed from what I had fallen in love with, that it just didn't seem to make any sense

Ditto

[cobra_commander]

Mighty Drew - you sound SOOOO much more disciplined than me

Yeah you sound REALLY disciplined Drew. Are you GERMAN or something?

[tarheelmarine]

Chaos Effect Alpha Red, the "red" variant of this book. It's a cousin to the Unity #0 Red, in the fact that there were only 5000 or less made of this "dealer incentive," and they are the only red variants VALIANT produced. For some reason, the CEAR tends to bring more money than a Unity Red - I guess because they rarely come up for sale.

According to Greg's numbers, Unity Red's print run is somewhere between 2,500 and 5,000, while the CEAR is 2,500 or less. So the CEAR is supposedly a little scarcer. That doesn't make up for the fact that the Unity Red is cooler, though!

Is unity red cooler? I don't know, maybe when I have a CEAR as well, I can say that, but until I do, I have to say that the CEAR is cooler.

[cobra_commander]

Is unity red cooler? I don't know, maybe when I have a CEAR as well, I can say that, but until I do, I have to say that the CEAR is cooler.

Sorry dude, got to vote against you on this one too. Unity Red. Cooler.

[tarheelmarine]

Is unity red cooler? I don't know, maybe when I have a CEAR as well, I can say that, but until I do, I have to say that the CEAR is cooler.

Sorry dude, got to vote against you on this one too. Unity Red. Cooler.

Coming from cc I am not surprised. CEAR is cooler to me cuz I don't own one.

Destro and Serpentor are on your trail now.

[cobra_commander]

Is unity red cooler? I don't know, maybe when I have a CEAR as well, I can say that, but until I do, I have to say that the CEAR is cooler.

Sorry dude, got to vote against you on this one too. Unity Red. Cooler.

Coming from cc I am not surprised. CEAR is cooler to me cuz I don't own one.

Destro and Serpentor are on your trail now.

I think I said something to upset THM...

[tarheelmarine]

your cool, it's friendly board banter.