The Many Dead Universes Of Marvel

omega_override · Post by **omega_override** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:24 am

So I was preening through a 25 cent comic book bin a day ago and I came across yet another dead marvel imprint; M-Tech. It featured revivals of X-51: The Machine Man, Deathlock, and Warlock and was also prefaced by an X-Men event called "Rage Against The Machine" in 1999 (I recall the Uncanny X-Men #371 cover with a chained up Warlock quite vividly from my youth)

So this makes eight total dead imprints for Marvel I believe, not including the Malibu's own Ultraverse and Bravura lines (the others being 2099, Frontier, Marvel UK, Clive Barker's Razorline, MC-2, STAR, and Epic) **also not completely sure if I should add "New Universe" to that list since it's more or less revived(?)**

Seriously, what is up with this company that it has eight different dead imprints to it's name? Granted, the cancellations of Razorline and 2099 can be attributed to the comics crash of the late nineties, much like Ultraverse and Bravura

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:52 am

omega_override wrote:So I was preening through a 25 cent comic book bin a day ago and I came across yet another dead marvel imprint; M-Tech. It featured revivals of X-51: The Machine Man, Deathlock, and Warlock and was also prefaced by an X-Men event called "Rage Against The Machine" in 1999 (I recall the Uncanny X-Men #371 cover with a chained up Warlock quite vividly from my youth)

So this makes eight total dead imprints for Marvel I believe, not including the Malibu Ultraverse and Bravura (the others being 2099, Frontier, Marvel UK, Clive Barker's Razorline, MC-2, STAR, and Epic) **also not completely sure if I should add "New Universe" to that list since it's more or less revived(?)**

Seriously, what is up with this company that it has eight different dead imprints to it's name?

You forget Marvel Alterniverse:

http://www.comics.org/brand/63/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So the count rises....

omega_override · Post by **omega_override** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:56 am

leonmallett wrote: You forget Marvel Alterniverse:

http://www.comics.org/brand/63/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So the count rises....

I guess the Amalgam universe would sort of count too?

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:14 pm

omega_override wrote:
leonmallett wrote: You forget Marvel Alterniverse:

http://www.comics.org/brand/63/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So the count rises....
I guess the Amalgam universe would sort of count too?

Co-owned so your call!

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:15 pm

But don't forget CrossGen either...

http://www.myfantasyart.com/wp-content/ ... _cover.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

omega_override · Post by **omega_override** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:16 pm

leonmallett wrote:But don't forget CrossGen either...

http://www.myfantasyart.com/wp-content/ ... _cover.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So ten now is where we're at?

Jesus, that's like beyond baffling

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:19 pm

omega_override wrote:
leonmallett wrote:But don't forget CrossGen either...

http://www.myfantasyart.com/wp-content/ ... _cover.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So ten now is where we're at?

Jesus, that's like beyond baffling

Wait until the true Marvel-ites and fonts of knowledge of the board arrive!

They may find more....

omega_override · Post by **omega_override** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:20 pm

leonmallett wrote:Wait until the true Marvel-ites and fonts of knowledge of the board arrive!

They may find more....

I'm scared........

Ten was my absolute breaking point.....

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:33 pm

omega_override wrote:
leonmallett wrote:Wait until the true Marvel-ites and fonts of knowledge of the board arrive!

They may find more....
I'm scared........

Ten was my absolute breaking point.....

You will be, you will be....

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:03 pm

Interesting thread.

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:45 am

MC-2
New Universe
Marvel 2099
Marvel UK Comics
Frontier Comics
Razorline Comics
Star Comics

Bought Companies/lines:
Crossgen Comics
Malibu Comics
Ultraverse
Genesis

Possibly Dead:
Max Comics

omega_override · Post by **omega_override** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:47 am

Cyberstrike wrote:Possibly Dead: Max Comics

MAX is still going I think, didn't they do Deadpool MAX not too long ago?

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:50 am

Didn't they have a Mangaverse they were experimenting with?

Marvel did not buy CrossGen, Disney did. Then Disney bought Marvel several years later and Marvel played with a new toy for almost a year and then got distracted by something else and thus CrossGen died again.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:53 pm

Cyberstrike wrote:MC-2
New Universe
Marvel 2099
Marvel UK Comics
Frontier Comics
Razorline Comics
Star Comics

Bought Companies/lines:
Crossgen Comics
Malibu Comics
Ultraverse
Genesis

Possibly Dead:
Max Comics

2099 often gets revisited, including Spidey 2099 recently appearing...though what 2099 books is cannon related to what other 2099 books is debatable.

Marcel UK was revived for Revolution not long ago too.

I wouldn't call either a Dead Universe anyway as they existed within the MU proper.

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:56 pm

I think that most of these deserved to be dead? Probably more that should be...

wokuya · Post by **wokuya** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:19 pm

I really enjoyed the Frontier and Razorline books. I looked at both lines as Marvel's attempts at a Vertigo-style line. Not their only attempts, as Hellstorm, X-Man, and Muties also seemed to be Vertigo-esque but within the Marvel U.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:44 pm

I miss there being new MC2 books; I got into the line so late, but I loved everything that came from it.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Sat May 23, 2015 4:26 am

Cyberstrike wrote:MC-2
New Universe
Marvel 2099
Marvel UK Comics
Frontier Comics
Razorline Comics
Star Comics

Bought Companies/lines:
Crossgen Comics
Malibu Comics
Ultraverse
Genesis

Possibly Dead:
Max Comics

Mangaverse?

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Sat May 23, 2015 9:10 am

616

. . . too soon?

rasputin9977 · Post by **rasputin9977** » Sat May 30, 2015 10:13 am

M-Tech is a dead imprint but not a dead universe since these three titles took place in the marvel universe. If we're talking about dead imprints then you can add midnight sons, marvel edge, marvel next, tsunami and marvel knights to the list.

zlovemojo · Post by **zlovemojo** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:05 pm

wokuya wrote:I really enjoyed the Frontier and Razorline books. I looked at both lines as Marvel's attempts at a Vertigo-style line. Not their only attempts, as Hellstorm, X-Man, and Muties also seemed to be Vertigo-esque but within the Marvel U.

I absolutely loved Warren Ellis on Hellstorm and Dr. Druid. Clive Barker's Razorline books were good too.

omega_override · Post by **omega_override** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:42 pm

wokuya wrote:I looked at both lines as Marvel's attempts at a Vertigo-style line

*AHEM!* Sir or Madam, I'd like you to take a look at the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Comics" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Marvel did not copy DC, if anything, Jim Shooter copied what National Lampoon was doing with Heavy Metal

zlovemojo · Post by **zlovemojo** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:56 am

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:44 am

Chiclo wrote:Didn't they have a Mangaverse they were experimenting with?

Yeah they had 2 if you want to be technical.

The first actual manga that had been done in Japan for that market Spider-Man: The Manga which was pretty much the basic idea of Spider-Man but with Japanese characters and was actually kind of cool and then you had X-Men: The Manga which pretty much started as a manga adaption of the 90s X-Men cartoon show I didn't like it and stopped reading after #4 and I don't know if they actually did original stories or not.

The second one was the Mangaverse when Marvel gave Ben Dunn and his friends a chance to re-imagine the Marvel Universe as a manga-inspired universe and the results were either: stupid, weird, or both. I read the TPB and not really caring much it.

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:22 am

Can we add the 616 and Ultimate universes to this list now?

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