Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

[tiredofmyself]

DMG Entertainment is secretly American.

So, like the opposite of Lee Harvey Oswald?

What?

If you look around on Internet, Dynamic Marketing Group turns out to be an American holding company registered in China that started out as ad agency, later with the subsidiary DMG Entertainment aimed at bringing Hollywood movies to China for distribution. It's until recently (2009) they made *one* Chinese movie. Their founder and CEO is Dan Mintz, a native New Yorker.

[lorddunlow]

DMG Entertainment is secretly American.

So, like the opposite of Lee Harvey Oswald?

What?

If you look around on Internet, Dynamic Marketing Group turns out to be an American holding company registered in China that started out as ad agency, later with the subsidiary DMG Entertainment aimed at bringing Hollywood movies to China for distribution. It's until recently (2009) they made *one* Chinese movie. Their founder and CEO is Dan Mintz, a native New Yorker.

You know who Lee Harvey Oswald is, right? It was a joke.


You said, "DMG is secretly American" but disguised as Chinese (communist). Lee Harvey Oswald was American, but secretly a communist defector (Russia, not China, but the joke still works...)

[lorddunlow]

The dong joke fell flat too. I think I'm losing my touch.

[Tim]

I doubt those Chinese yuan can be diverted from movie-making to their comics-crafting.

Pretty sure it's just the additional NINE figure sum devoted to the movies.

The original EIGHT figure sum is for developing the publishing arm, new properties, etc.

[tiredofmyself]

DMG Entertainment is secretly American.

So, like the opposite of Lee Harvey Oswald?

What?

If you look around on Internet, Dynamic Marketing Group turns out to be an American holding company registered in China that started out as ad agency, later with the subsidiary DMG Entertainment aimed at bringing Hollywood movies to China for distribution. It's until recently (2009) they made *one* Chinese movie. Their founder and CEO is Dan Mintz, a native New Yorker.

You know who Lee Harvey Oswald is, right? It was a joke.


You said, "DMG is secretly American" but disguised as Chinese (communist). Lee Harvey Oswald was American, but secretly a communist defector (Russia, not China, but the joke still works...)

Oh I see yeah I just thought you were referring to some random conspiracy theories but I couldn't see how it fit with this.

There is no politics or betrayal or anything, I'm just commenting on the origin... legally and formally it's a Chinese company through and through (and if their portfolio is any indication, Chinese officials regulating film industries and various guilds of writers/filmmakers/etc are definitely in deep with them), but it sure didn't *originate* from China.

Not sure if a good thing for Valiant or not. Since Looper is well-received, I guess it's alright.

[drmirage]

That very interesting.

Off Topic: When the Valiant Movies become a big success. Will that help the U.S. National Debt against China?
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I doubt those Chinese yuan can be diverted from movie-making to their comics-crafting.

Also, one thing needs to be made clear:

DMG Entertainment is secretly American.

[Elveen]

Stop being a fan, and start looking at your shop as business. You're being hosed by a publisher and you're defending it.

Lol, I don't I need to respond to this, do I?

No my friend. You do not.

[lorddunlow]

Both of my jokes were very funny.

Screw you guys. I'm going home!

[agent_graves]

Twenty dollars isn't so bad.

I think if the opportunity to pay $20 to support Valiant's growth efforts presented itself ten years ago when things looked bleakest for the return of our favourite comic book line, a majority of us would have jumped at the chance to do so without complaint.

It's the difference between being starved and being spoiled.

Agreed. Big time.

+1

10char

[erwinrafael]

Twenty dollars for a 22 page comic is reasonable?

[Donovan]

Twenty dollars for a 22 page comic is reasonable?

That's not what I asked.

Is anything about comics reasonable? Is $4.99 for a 22 page comic reasonable?

[geocarr]

Twenty dollars for a 22 page comic is reasonable?

It is to him. I might not be to you. It is and it isn't to me. That's okay.

[Donovan]

just using scalability to illustrate the stupidity of the "we would have accepted it x years ago now, so its really alright now even though we're in a different era" argument

With all due respect, comparing what is at worst case on each side a human rights issue versus a risky marketing venture is probably more worth of the label "stupidity".

Well I'm presuming DCBS and TFAW are theoretically cancelling a load of prospective Valiant comic sales at the moment.

I highly doubt the number of orders was that high, and b the reason they were any to be cancelled at all was due to a pricing error.

[Ricomortis]

Twenty dollars for a 22 page comic is reasonable?

ABSOLUTELY!

[agent_graves]

Twenty dollars for a 22 page comic is reasonable?

It's actually, 24pgs

[Ricomortis]

Twenty dollars for a 22 page comic is reasonable?

ABSOLUTELY!

[Ricomortis]

Twenty dollars for a 22 page comic is reasonable?

ABSOLUTELY!

[Elveen]

it is worth what someone will pay.

[erwinrafael]

Twenty dollars for a 22 page comic is reasonable?

That's not what I asked.

Is anything about comics reasonable? Is $4.99 for a 22 page comic reasonable?

Given that I have to oay for the talent that produced the comic book, yes, $5 is reasonable.

20 USD, however, is way beyond what I am willing to pay. It's more expensive than a TPB.

With the retailer discounts and returnability clause, couldn't they have flooded the shelves with BoD if they just sold it for $1.50? Then just offer LotG as a regularly priced book?

[tiredofmyself]

Twenty dollars for a 22 page comic is reasonable?

That's not what I asked.

Is anything about comics reasonable? Is $4.99 for a 22 page comic reasonable?

Given that I have to oay for the talent that produced the comic book, yes, $5 is reasonable.

20 USD, however, is way beyond what I am willing to pay. It's more expensive than a TPB.

With the retailer discounts and returnability clause, couldn't they have flooded the shelves with BoD if they just sold it for $1.50? Then just offer LotG as a regularly priced book?

I suspect that's exactly what DCBS was thinking... right before Internet people rushing to the website and ordered 10 copies each.

Then they realize how absurd the amount of Book of Death they need to order and then return, so they readjust the price to help people cut down their orders.

[grendeljd]

The dong joke fell flat too. I think I'm losing my touch.

Maybe if you touched the dong...

[FormerReader]

Both of my jokes were very funny.

Screw you guys. I'm going home!

It's about time.

[mietha]

As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.

[ShadowTuga]

As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.

I think exactly the opposite. I hope that doesn't make you think I'm a moron or something. Because I WANT to support this.
Since this was your 1st post, I guess we won't be seeing you around here often? Anyway, hello and welcome.

[Ricomortis]

As someone who has bought every single new Valiant title as it has come out, not to mention supported Acclaim and the original Valiant (including paying $60 for Solar #10 and $400 for Harbinger #1-5 back in the day), I have very likely bought my last Valiant comic. The sheer audacity and arrogance of this move has baffled me. This is something not even Marvel, at their worst, would have done. And that's WOULD have. For everyone willing to support this, know that you WILL be starting a trend if successful. I don't mind absurdly priced variants. I've bought more than a few myself, but putting an entire SERIES behind an artificial pay-wall is something I can not, and will not, support. I have cancelled this month's Valiant titles and if they do not come to their senses before May 27th, I will never give this company another dime in any way, shape or form. If you have ANY love for comics as a medium, DO NOT support this. Despite movies based on comics making 100s of million of dollars, comics, as an entity, barely survives. This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that could contribute to the end of the form. Valiant comics sold between 4k and 24k copies in March, with only Ninjak #1 being over 10k. This is an excellent way to make those numbers go down, not up. I guess this is the crap you get when some moron gives 100 million dollars to a company that can't manage to move 25,000 copies of a book.

Uhhhh... Bye Felicia!