October 2014 Sales Discussion

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:25 am

Trick or treat, gang:

Publisher - Dollar Share - Unit Share

MARVEL COMICS 34.82% 36.35%
DC ENTERTAINMENT 27.53% 31.00%
IMAGE COMICS 9.77% 12.28%
IDW PUBLISHING 5.18% 3.94%
DARK HORSE COMICS 4.74% 3.25%
DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT 2.60% 2.00%
BOOM! STUDIOS 2.39% 2.26%
ARCHIE COMICS 1.19% 1.20%
AVATAR PRESS 1.18% 1.25%
EAGLEMOSS PUBLICATIONS 1.17% 0.30%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 9.43% 6.18%

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:57 am

Comment about how Valiant is doomed.

ilzuccone · Post by **ilzuccone** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:58 am

Thomas wrote:Comment about how Valiant is doomed.

+1

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:23 pm

Comment about how its not the end of the world

Sir Sandrick · Post by **Sir Sandrick** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:30 pm

Where do those numbers come from- just curious is all.

Do they reflect total sales, digital etc?

With all of the upcoming titles slated for next year things seem better than those numbers would suggest. Perhaps the miniseries angle will help attract new readers hopefully?

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:46 pm

Not the only source, but a very good one: http://blog.comichron.com/2014/11/octob ... in-17.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sir Sandrick · Post by **Sir Sandrick** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:50 pm

Thanks! Wow a lot of great info on there. I have never really tracked these things but it may be interesting to start.

Bone-A-Fach-ee · Post by **Bone-A-Fach-ee** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:01 pm

A) It bothers me that they list Eaglemoss as a publisher. Not quite in the same vein as actual comic book publishers.
B) They only list the Top 10 based on Dollar share, not Unit Share, which would be nice to see, because there are many more companies with a higher unit share than EagleMoss, and it would be more relevant to the industry to see those companies listed.
Just my two cents.

Sir Sandrick · Post by **Sir Sandrick** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:17 pm

The coming months will be interesting to see. I wonder how much exposure the Humble Bundle generated and hopefully once those readers get through that huge mountain of reading if they will be hungry for more- hope so!

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:38 pm

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jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:46 pm

ilzuccone · Post by **ilzuccone** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:15 pm

bygranddesign wrote:Comment about how its not the end of the world

-1

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:23 pm

Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:A) It bothers me that they list Eaglemoss as a publisher. Not quite in the same vein as actual comic book publishers.
B) They only list the Top 10 based on Dollar share, not Unit Share, which would be nice to see, because there are many more companies with a higher unit share than EagleMoss, and it would be more relevant to the industry to see those companies listed.
Just my two cents.

Not only that, but Diamond often only gives innitial numbers based on items shipped (not even units, but number of titles for example).

In another week, Comichron will have the estimated sales which are based on an index number Diamond releases.

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:21 pm

What's up with the Walking Dead that it was the top comic?

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:21 pm

nycjadie wrote:What's up with the Walking Dead that it was the top comic?

It was included in the October Loot Crate.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:34 am

jeremycoe wrote:
nycjadie wrote:What's up with the Walking Dead that it was the top comic?
It was included in the October Loot Crate.

Could you imagine if VEI got one of their issues in a loot crate delivery? What great exposure that would be.

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:44 am

ilzuccone wrote:
bygranddesign wrote:Comment about how its not the end of the world
-1

Comment about how your comment is not funny.

And then I throw a tomato at you

Sir Sandrick · Post by **Sir Sandrick** » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:26 am

BugsySig wrote:
jeremycoe wrote:
nycjadie wrote:What's up with the Walking Dead that it was the top comic?
It was included in the October Loot Crate.
Could you imagine if VEI got one of their issues in a loot crate delivery? What great exposure that would be.

Ninjak #1 - lootcrate - BAM

Everyone loves wealthy, tech savvy ninjas, right?

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:52 am

Sir Sandrick wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
jeremycoe wrote:
nycjadie wrote:What's up with the Walking Dead that it was the top comic?
It was included in the October Loot Crate.
Could you imagine if VEI got one of their issues in a loot crate delivery? What great exposure that would be.
Ninjak #1 - lootcrate - BAM

Everyone loves wealthy, tech savvy ninjas, right?

Their crates are all themed. If they had a ninja theme, it would be a no brainer to try to get it in there.

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:05 pm

Any info available on individual Valiant title sales?

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:14 pm

StarBrand wrote:Any info available on individual Valiant title sales?

Should be out Monday.

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:41 pm

Tim wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Any info available on individual Valiant title sales?
Should be out Monday.

Thanks.

rjrjr · Post by **rjrjr** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:27 am

This is entirely annecdotal, but a LCS in Phoenix is finally blowing out the early VEI issues at $1.00 each. They have tons of X-O Manowar 1, Harbinger 1, and Archer and Armstrong 1. This LCS ordered heavy on the early VEI titles, but they also did the same for DC 52, Marvel Now, etc. I saw that Valiant TPBs in Paris are priced at 5 euro. This was a price I saw at several comic shops (it is priced on the covers for that much), so I think this was some sort of promotional price. It looked like this was for the first TPBs for the various Valiant titles similar to the promotion they ran here in the states for the first TPBs.

I think Valiant is doing all they can to get these comics into readers hands. I think people are just going to have to realize VEI is not going to become a top 5 publisher for many years, if ever. The best chance they have now of becoming mainstream is getting a property made into a TV show or a movie. If we enjoy the titles and VEI's output, why does it matter if they are not a top publisher?

They seem to be doing well enough to keep the doors open and there is nothing wrong with that IMHO.

rjrjr · Post by **rjrjr** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:34 am

Sir Sandrick wrote:Perhaps the miniseries angle will help attract new readers hopefully?

If it did, then Valiant would be going against a trend in the past few years that shows mini-series sales are a losing proposition for titles. People want ongoing "relevant" titles. Marvel and DC have had a hard time making mini-series work outside of event books and with the rising cost of comics, elseworld or what if? type books have taken a beating. (Which makes the Quantum and Woody title a loser.) Image realizes this and doesn't even list titles as mini-series anymore, even if a title is a mini-series.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:02 am

rjrjr wrote:This is entirely annecdotal, but a LCS in Phoenix is finally blowing out the early VEI issues at $1.00 each. They have tons of X-O Manowar 1, Harbinger 1, and Archer and Armstrong 1. This LCS ordered heavy on the early VEI titles, but they also did the same for DC 52, Marvel Now, etc. I saw that Valiant TPBs in Paris are priced at 5 euro. This was a price I saw at several comic shops (it is priced on the covers for that much), so I think this was some sort of promotional price. It looked like this was for the first TPBs for the various Valiant titles similar to the promotion they ran here in the states for the first TPBs.

I think Valiant is doing all they can to get these comics into readers hands. I think people are just going to have to realize VEI is not going to become a top 5 publisher for many years, if ever. The best chance they have now of becoming mainstream is getting a property made into a TV show or a movie. If we enjoy the titles and VEI's output, why does it matter if they are not a top publisher? They seem to be doing well enough to keep the doors open and there is nothing wrong with that IMHO.

Woah woah woah...lets pump the brakes on the logical arguments there buck-o. This is hardly the place for that. #doom

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