DISCUSSION: Armor Hunters #3

[DirtbagSailor]

DBS

[Keith]

Looks like DBS iwas determined to beat us all to the punch this morning!

Just finished reading AH #3. Great issue, reads like the action blockbuster movie we all hope this will one day be! Our heroes strike back against the Hunters with some underhanded methods, the results of which I did not anticipate. Sorry, people of Los Angeles!!

Already salivating for next issue, can't wait to see how this gets resolved!

[pixierosa]

Look at the back pages! There's a bunch of board members' photos there from the SDCC poker tournament!

World famous!

[Talisman]

Look at the back pages! There's a bunch of board members' photos there from the SDCC poker tournament!

World famous!

Andy Warhol was right

[BugsySig]

Another excellent issue. Loved the MERO double-cross. Ready to see Aric whoop some *SQUEE* next issue.

Reebo doesn't seem interested in a cure, even though he wants to stop fighting I get that he's stubborn and has a long history dealing with armors, but why wouldn't he at least consider it? Seems like the other team members might be willing to do so.

[bygranddesign]

Blockbuster movie is right!

Imagine maybe 15 years from now - seeing this story on the big screen? It would be epic!

Vditti is delivering on all cylinders - very well paced with some nice twists and turns including some unexpected vulnerability from Aric.

And the art is breathtaking!

my question - we have discussed this before and once again it seems to be true - Livewire seems to be a better host for the armor.

But i'm looking forward to Aric getting back the armor and laying waste to the Armor Hunter next issue.

[pixierosa]

Reebo isn't going to accept a cure because he's been fighting and hunting these things for too long, seen to many teammates die and worlds be destroyed. He has a long-standing bias against armors, and it would be difficult to turn the other cheek and trust a cure when he's emotionally invested to purge the "disease". I think that he started out as a hunter, simple enough, but the losses along the way took their toll, and it became personal. A bit of revenge to spear the armor. We may also discover that something happened that forced him to remove his detachment. That event could have been Malgam's infection, or it may have been something earlier than that. It does seem that Reebo is angry at the armor, angry at his situation, perhaps even how his life has gone - enough so that he is no longer acting in harmony with his team or in their best interests. There may be a mutiny.

[ilzuccone]

Reebo isn't going to accept a cure because he's been fighting and hunting these things for too long, seen to many teammates die and worlds be destroyed. He has a long-standing bias against armors, and it would be difficult to turn the other cheek and trust a cure when he's emotionally invested to purge the "disease". I think that he started out as a hunter, simple enough, but the losses along the way took their toll, and it became personal.

I agree with this. wouldn't be in character to accept a cure.

Also a cure gives us a way to avoid the armor destroying earth. nice. well done. all around great book.

braithwaite continues to knock it out of the park.

[BugsySig]

Reebo isn't going to accept a cure because he's been fighting and hunting these things for too long, seen to many teammates die and worlds be destroyed. He has a long-standing bias against armors, and it would be difficult to turn the other cheek and trust a cure when he's emotionally invested to purge the "disease". I think that he started out as a hunter, simple enough, but the losses along the way took their toll, and it became personal.

I agree with this. wouldn't be in character to accept a cure.

Also a cure gives us a way to avoid the armor destroying earth. nice. well done. all around great book.

braithwaite continues to knock it out of the park.

I don't think it is out of character for him to refuse a cure as much as his declaration that after this hunt they are all done is. Everything we have seen from his past and current personality is he is not the type to give up. He will fight to the bitter end. But if we are accepting his declaration of retiring as being in character, then not at least considering the offer momentarily seems out of character. At least to me.

[Bone-A-Fach-ee]

I heart V-Ditti. Awesome book, and I can't wait to see the fight between Bloodshot and Lilt!
Crazy that Gn-Gr is able to reproduce? his own head? didn't expect that coming. And be an LA resident, I surely would have died in that impact.
Agree with all the praise of the artwork as well.
I'm hoping that within this story arc/crossover we get the actual, true origins of the armor(s).

[grendeljd]

Solid issue, very enjoyable action.

I liked the clever ploy to take out GIN-GR, and thought it was very cool that it's 'mind' is not limited to its 'head'. And now its trashing LA? Crazy!! Seeing the scale of that machine in the midst of the city is awesome - and on that note I think this is one of Brathwaite's best works of art to date.

Hard to believe this whole thing is going to wrap up in one more month... it almost feels too short.

Reebo isn't going to accept a cure because he's been fighting and hunting these things for too long, seen to many teammates die and worlds be destroyed. He has a long-standing bias against armors, and it would be difficult to turn the other cheek and trust a cure when he's emotionally invested to purge the "disease". I think that he started out as a hunter, simple enough, but the losses along the way took their toll, and it became personal. A bit of revenge to spear the armor. We may also discover that something happened that forced him to remove his detachment. That event could have been Malgam's infection, or it may have been something earlier than that. It does seem that Reebo is angry at the armor, angry at his situation, perhaps even how his life has gone - enough so that he is no longer acting in harmony with his team or in their best interests. There may be a mutiny.

Good character assessment, I tend to agree with you. I see a mutiny coming before the end as well, Reebo seems driven by irrational anger & prejudice more than any previous sense of doing the right thing, and the others act like they don't quite trust his decisions as much.

[RogueJedi74]

What an awesome issue. I can't ask for anything more in a comic. I agree with everyone above, this would make an awesome movie.

I heart Livewire. Every time she is in a book she is well done. Maybe it is time for her own monthly or take over for Aric in X-O

Can't wait to re-read this series after it is complete.

[ilzuccone]

What an awesome issue. I can't ask for anything more in a comic. I agree with everyone above, this would make an awesome movie.

I heart Livewire. Every time she is in a book she is well done. Maybe it is time for her own monthly or take over for Aric in X-O

Can't wait to re-read this series after it is complete.

+1

[lorddunlow]

I think this is one of Brathwaite's best works of art to date.

Hard to believe this whole thing is going to wrap up in one more month... it almost feels too short.

+1 to both of those statements!

Reebo isn't going to accept a cure because he's been fighting and hunting these things for too long, seen to many teammates die and worlds be destroyed. He has a long-standing bias against armors, and it would be difficult to turn the other cheek and trust a cure when he's emotionally invested to purge the "disease". I think that he started out as a hunter, simple enough, but the losses along the way took their toll, and it became personal. A bit of revenge to spear the armor. We may also discover that something happened that forced him to remove his detachment. That event could have been Malgam's infection, or it may have been something earlier than that. It does seem that Reebo is angry at the armor, angry at his situation, perhaps even how his life has gone - enough so that he is no longer acting in harmony with his team or in their best interests. There may be a mutiny.

My thoughts on why Reebo (can't help thinking of Reebo and Zooty from the Gaiman penned B5 episode ) isn't willing to trust Livewire's cure is that I'm sure he's heard the "I'm in control. I'm not infected" line from every single bearer that he has encountered. I don't think it goes any deeper for him. He kills the armors without hesitation.

I also get the feeling (I'm trying to address BugsySig's out of character comments) that Reebo is more concerned with ending Malgam's suffering than eliminating the armor on this mission. That's why he broke protocol to send Lilt to ensure Malgam is destroyed and why he tells Quartz he's done after this job. I won't be surprised at all if he sacrifices himself to kill Malgam.

Man, Armor Hunters is great!

[String]

I also get the feeling (I'm trying to address BugsySig's out of character comments) that Reebo is more concerned with ending Malgam's suffering than eliminating the armor on this mission. That's why he broke protocol to send Lilt to ensure Malgam is destroyed and why he tells Quartz he's done after this job. I won't be surprised at all if he sacrifices himself to kill Malgam.

Man, Armor Hunters is great!

It may also have to do with how Malgram got infected in the first place, if Reebo feels or actually is responsible for that happening. Either way, he acts more and more compromised over this mission so we may yet see the others rebel against him as pixie suggested.

Terrific issue, great action, great drama, great art, best comic event I've read so far this year.

[jmatt]

Man, Armor Hunters is great!

It is. It really is. Every issue is firing on all cylinders.

[leonmallett]

Another huge population centre gone? VALIANT are mapping out a very different Earth to what we the readers have (see below). For me the issue was enjoyable, and the art excellent as expected from the ace Mr. Braithwaite. Good stuff, and I look forwards to reading the whole in collected edition when it is released.

Armor Hunters has arguably turned VALIANT Earth on its head. With the fall of Harada (which ties in time-wise of course), and the UN use of Zephyr and Torque the general public now knows about super-humans. They know about aliens.

LA gone or just heavily damaged? I really hope that VALIANT think through and demonstrate the impact of the Mexico City and LA events.

As a comparison, when the Ultimate Marvel Universe tried to reflect the cataclysmic impact of its Ultimatum Wave, the post-disaster feel in each title was mixed to say the least; it just didn't feel like they had thought through the aftermath and followed their 'what if' scenario through.

Think about the impact of 9/11 and extrapolate that in scale to be two cities.

Commercially and culturally the loss of LA (if LA is lost, and not simply 'down town is trashed' which in itself would have massive impact, surely) could be deemed to be immense.

Global politics and infrastructure would be massively impacted by the destruction of two major cities; there would inevitably be an effect on society. A two hour blockbuster can gloss over those things - serial comics are not two-hour blockbusters.

I think they have made some brave story-telling decisions, and I applaud them for doing so. They are not Marvel or DC. There is no 'Damage Control' - I hope they follow through these stories and show a Changed New World.

[BugsySig]

^^^^^^^^

I agree. I would predict a major anti-alien sentiment to follow this. That is probably what leads to the Armorines going after XO.

Would Harada and Psiots now be embraced as our only defense against alien invaders?

Is this where robots and sentient cities begin to be developed to combat alien threats?

Would Armorines and/or HARD Corps become an inter-stellar defense force for Earth? Such a thing could lead to PsiLords in the future.

[lorddunlow]

^^^^^^^^

I agree. I would predict a major anti-alien sentiment to follow this. That is probably what leads to the Armorines going after XO.

Would Harada and Psiots now be embraced as our only defense against alien invaders?

Is this where robots and sentient cities begin to be developed to combat alien threats?

Would Armorines and/or HARD Corps become an inter-stellar defense force for Earth? Such a thing could lead to PsiLords in the future.

Perhaps this anti-aging sentiment is what leads to an alien-free future Earth in 4001. We simply destroy any aliens before they can become friends.

[leonmallett]

^^^^^^^^

I agree. I would predict a major anti-alien sentiment to follow this. That is probably what leads to the Armorines going after XO.

Would Harada and Psiots now be embraced as our only defense against alien invaders?

Is this where robots and sentient cities begin to be developed to combat alien threats?

Would Armorines and/or HARD Corps become an inter-stellar defense force for Earth? Such a thing could lead to PsiLords in the future.

Perhaps this anti-aging sentiment is what leads to an alien-free future Earth in 4001. We simply destroy any aliens before they can become friends.

Are you going for a VEI style typo there lorddunlow?

[lorddunlow]

^^^^^^^^

I agree. I would predict a major anti-alien sentiment to follow this. That is probably what leads to the Armorines going after XO.

Would Harada and Psiots now be embraced as our only defense against alien invaders?

Is this where robots and sentient cities begin to be developed to combat alien threats?

Would Armorines and/or HARD Corps become an inter-stellar defense force for Earth? Such a thing could lead to PsiLords in the future.

Perhaps this anti-aging sentiment is what leads to an alien-free future Earth in 4001. We simply destroy any aliens before they can become friends.

Are you going for a VEI style typo there lorddunlow?

Yeah, that's exactly what I was going for!

[leonmallett]

^^^^^^^^

I agree. I would predict a major anti-alien sentiment to follow this. That is probably what leads to the Armorines going after XO.

Would Harada and Psiots now be embraced as our only defense against alien invaders?

Is this where robots and sentient cities begin to be developed to combat alien threats?

Would Armorines and/or HARD Corps become an inter-stellar defense force for Earth? Such a thing could lead to PsiLords in the future.

Perhaps this anti-aging sentiment is what leads to an alien-free future Earth in 4001. We simply destroy any aliens before they can become friends.

Are you going for a VEI style typo there lorddunlow?

Yeah, that's exactly what I was going for!

Facepalms are for the other thread!

Anyway, I wonder if Dino finds the board's comments about the typos, name gaffes and art gaffes as 'hilarious'.....

I was thinking about this last night, and maybe we are more sensitive to it, but it does seem a basic thing to try to get 'right' more often.

[Heath]

Is there a thread to discuss the Armor Hunters event as a whole? I couldn't find one. All I could find was the individual issue threads.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying this event as a whole. My only complaint is that some issues seem out of sequence (if going by the checklist on the in-house advertisement).

[ShadowTuga]

Just finished reading it. Livewire was awesome, needless to say. That whole sequence with GIN-GR is so damn good.

This has been Valiant's finest Big event, so far. I'm getting a lot of different stuff from each one of the tie-ins and the main plot is HUGE, like you would want in a story like this. Can't wait for the big finale, really.

[RogueJedi74]

Is there a thread to discuss the Armor Hunters event as a whole? I couldn't find one. All I could find was the individual issue threads.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying this event as a whole. My only complaint is that some issues seem out of sequence (if going by the checklist on the in-house advertisement).

That is a good idea. I wonder what others may think about having a cross over thread in general.