On the subject of Rob Liefeld

[Chiclo]

Deadpool. Cable. Historic characters.

They are that. Pretty much undeniable I think. And hard to see who post-1975 has had the same impact in the Marvel Universe.

The second Ghost Rider, Wolverine, The Punisher, Rouge, and Electra spring to mind.

Venom belongs on that list.

[The Dirt Gang]

Deadpool. Cable. Historic characters.

They are that. Pretty much undeniable I think. And hard to see who post-1975 has had the same impact in the Marvel Universe.

The second Ghost Rider, Wolverine, The Punisher, Rouge, and Electra spring to mind.

Venom belongs on that list.

What about Gambit? I don't read X-Men anymore but is he still as big as he once was. Aren't they talking about doing a Gambit movie?

[greg]

Deadpool. Cable. Historic characters.

They are that. Pretty much undeniable I think. And hard to see who post-1975 has had the same impact in the Marvel Universe.

The second Ghost Rider, Wolverine, The Punisher, Rouge, and Electra spring to mind.

Venom belongs on that list.

Ghost Rider (1972), Wolverine (1974), and The Punisher (1974) need to come off that list.

[Cyberstrike]

Deadpool. Cable. Historic characters.

They are that. Pretty much undeniable I think. And hard to see who post-1975 has had the same impact in the Marvel Universe.

The second Ghost Rider, Wolverine, The Punisher, Rouge, and Electra spring to mind.

Venom belongs on that list.

Ghost Rider (1972), Wolverine (1974), and The Punisher (1974) need to come off that list.

Danny Ketch the second Ghost Rider debuted in early 90s (between 1989-1992). While they debuted in 70s both Wolverine and the Punisher didn't become big stars till the 80s (The Punisher spent most of the 70s in various Marvel black and white magazines).

[Chiclo]

Deadpool. Cable. Historic characters.

They are that. Pretty much undeniable I think. And hard to see who post-1975 has had the same impact in the Marvel Universe.

The second Ghost Rider, Wolverine, The Punisher, Rouge, and Electra spring to mind.

Venom belongs on that list.

Ghost Rider (1972), Wolverine (1974), and The Punisher (1974) need to come off that list.

Danny Ketch the second Ghost Rider debuted in early 90s (between 1989-1992). While they debuted in 70s both Wolverine and the Punisher didn't become big stars till the 80s (The Punisher spent most of the 70s in various Marvel black and white magazines).

While you ('strike) are correct, greg is right too. Wolverine and the Punisher should be struck from the list.

[leonmallett]

Deadpool. Cable. Historic characters.

They are that. Pretty much undeniable I think. And hard to see who post-1975 has had the same impact in the Marvel Universe.

The second Ghost Rider, Wolverine, The Punisher, Rouge, and Electra spring to mind.

I was specific to say post-1975, since Wolverine was in X-Men by then.

Danny Ketch? Where did he go for many years?

Rogue? Has she headlined a solo book for as long as either Deadpool or Cable?

The Punisher - I will concede that one.

Electra. Arguably less impact than two characters who have many solo issues under their belt.

[Chiclo]

Electra. Arguably less impact than two characters who have many solo issues under their belt.

Elektra headlined her own movie. Punisher is up to what, three including the Dolph Lundgren one?

The Deadpool movie can't get off the ground and nobody is talking about a Cable movie.

Movies are driving comics as much as anything else, particularly where the big two are concerned.

[leonmallett]

Electra. Arguably less impact than two characters who have many solo issues under their belt.

Elektra headlined her own movie. Punisher is up to what, three including the Dolph Lundgren one?

The Deadpool movie can't get off the ground and nobody is talking about a Cable movie.

Movies are driving comics as much as anything else, particularly where the big two are concerned.

True. Elektra tanked well enough, one wonders if she will ever get a second chance solo as a movie.

But my point was in context of the Marvel universe.

But comics are marginalized as you say now.

[The Dirt Gang]

Movies are driving comics as much as anything else, particularly where the big two are concerned.

I'd be the first in line for any Valiant move but this is what has me a bit concerned with VEI producing movies. Granted they are a much different company than Marvel or DC.

[kjjohanson]

Who the hell is "Rouge"?

She's a makeup-based superhero from the '80s. Different shades gave her different powers.

[Cyberstrike]

Electra. Arguably less impact than two characters who have many solo issues under their belt.

Elektra headlined her own movie. Punisher is up to what, three including the Dolph Lundgren one?

The Deadpool movie can't get off the ground and nobody is talking about a Cable movie.

Movies are driving comics as much as anything else, particularly where the big two are concerned.

True. Elektra tanked well enough, one wonders if she will ever get a second chance solo as a movie.

But my point was in context of the Marvel universe.

But comics are marginalized as you say now.

My guess is that since the Netflix Marvel TV shows are said to be part of the MCU and the first one is Daredevil I guess she might be become a part of the MCU.

[dornwolf]

Deadpool. Cable. Historic characters.

They are that. Pretty much undeniable I think. And hard to see who post-1975 has had the same impact in the Marvel Universe.

The second Ghost Rider, Wolverine, The Punisher, Rouge, and Electra spring to mind.

Venom belongs on that list.

What about Gambit? I don't read X-Men anymore but is he still as big as he once was. Aren't they talking about doing a Gambit movie?

Gambit has his vocal fans, to the point he gets a series once in a blue moon, writers never seem to know what to do with him though and he isn't liked alot by writers apparently. Hopefully those movie rumours do something for him I've always loved Gambit and thank god Peter David is his current guardian.

[The Dirt Gang]

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Here is an interview with Liefeld. In it he says that Cable was inspired by the manga series Appleseed. I never thought about it but I can totally see it now.

As a kid I can remember stumbling across an issue of Appleseed and just being blown away I never saw anything like it. I bought it and could never find another issue at that time. A few years later I see Cable and loved the character but never saw the connection between the two.

[Magnus9178]

I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE Liefeld!!!

Imaging a little kid playing with action figures. Now imaging that same kid a little older drawing comics. That's what Liefeld does with comics! He's the ultimate fanboy and loves every aspect of comics. I was getting a book signed by Erik Larsen and Liefeld was standing next to him and asked to see one of the Spiderman books of mine Larsen was signing. He flipped through the book and kept commenting how much he loved certain panels and the way Larsen drew the book. Now let me elaborate what this was like, imagine a hyper kid flipping through a book saying "aawww cool" "that's awesome" "oh look that" "OMG I remember this" "WOW!" in the matter of seconds. That was Liefeld flipping through my book. He was really appreciative and chatted with me for a bit.

As an artist he expresses the same sense of enthusiasm. Sure I will agree, his art does cause one to inquire where he learned about anatomy. But at the same time he helped revolutionize comic book art. No one draws like Liefeld, it's a completely unique style. Unfortunately due him producing so much awkward art he tends have an either you like him or hate him following. Well I for one love him.

[StarBrand]

Deadpool. Cable. Historic characters.

Deadpool yes I grant you that one.

Very generous of you.

[The Dirt Gang]

Deadpool. Cable. Historic characters.

Deadpool yes I grant you that one.

Very generous of you.

As an artist he expresses the same sense of enthusiasm. Sure I will agree, his art does cause one to inquire where he learned about anatomy. But at the same time he helped revolutionize comic book art. No one draws like Liefeld, it's a completely unique style. Unfortunately due him producing so much awkward art he tends have an either you like him or hate him following. Well I for one love him.

He definitely is enthusiastic and his art was what got me into comics. I only dabbled before discovering his New Mutants/X-Force.

In the podcast I posted above, he's interviewed by two very good cartoonist, Ed Piskor and Jim Rugg. In the podcast and in other interviews I've heard with these guys they profess a really love for Liefeld and his work. I think I've heard some other indie creators like Tom Scioli and Michel Fiffe also talk about how great his work his.

In one of these interviews, they were talking about artists whose work is so distinct that it can be identified by only a small snippet of a full page and they mentioned Kirby and Liefeld (I forget the others). Liefeld's definitely has one of those styles.

[JonesyAZ]

As a devout fan who both loves Liefeld's work and can't STAND his disappointing delays and unfinished storylines...I just have to point out that he STILL hasn't released his Kickstarter-funded SINGLE comic book of Brigade. A year or more later? Wrong...just wrong, Rob.

[lorddunlow]

As a devout fan who both loves Liefeld's work and can't STAND his disappointing delays and unfinished storylines...I just have to point out that he STILL hasn't released his Kickstarter-funded SINGLE comic book of Brigade. A year or more later? Wrong...just wrong, Rob.

Not cool.

[leonmallett]

I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE Liefeld!!!

Imaging a little kid playing with action figures. Now imaging that same kid a little older drawing comics. That's what Liefeld does with comics! He's the ultimate fanboy and loves every aspect of comics. I was getting a book signed by Erik Larsen and Liefeld was standing next to him and asked to see one of the Spiderman books of mine Larsen was signing. He flipped through the book and kept commenting how much he loved certain panels and the way Larsen drew the book. Now let me elaborate what this was like, imagine a hyper kid flipping through a book saying "aawww cool" "that's awesome" "oh look that" "OMG I remember this" "WOW!" in the matter of seconds. That was Liefeld flipping through my book. He was really appreciative and chatted with me for a bit.

As an artist he expresses the same sense of enthusiasm. Sure I will agree, his art does cause one to inquire where he learned about anatomy. But at the same time he helped revolutionize comic book art. No one draws like Liefeld, it's a completely unique style. Unfortunately due him producing so much awkward art he tends have an either you like him or hate him following. Well I for one love him.

Well said that man!

[leonmallett]

As a devout fan who both loves Liefeld's work and can't STAND his disappointing delays and unfinished storylines...I just have to point out that he STILL hasn't released his Kickstarter-funded SINGLE comic book of Brigade. A year or more later? Wrong...just wrong, Rob.

Not cool.

I backed it to, but assumed that Kickstarter projects often meet with delays, Liefeld projects often meet with delays, so accepted that the projected delivery date was meaningless and it would arrive when it arrives.

I am curious as to how he envisions his reboot of his stable of characters.

[Cyberstrike]

A Rob Liefeld book that is late! I'm shocked, shocked do you hear how shocked I am?!

[The Dirt Gang]

A Rob Liefeld book that is late! I'm shocked, shocked do you hear how shocked I am?!

[newt138]

Rob is a great idea man. But needs someone to filter those ideas. In a way he is the Vince Russo of comics.

[Keith]

Hmmm... Looks like Rob had some not so nice things to say about Valiant on Twitter. Jerk-store.

[dornwolf]

As a devout fan who both loves Liefeld's work and can't STAND his disappointing delays and unfinished storylines...I just have to point out that he STILL hasn't released his Kickstarter-funded SINGLE comic book of Brigade. A year or more later? Wrong...just wrong, Rob.

Not cool.

I backed it to, but assumed that Kickstarter projects often meet with delays, Liefeld projects often meet with delays, so accepted that the projected delivery date was meaningless and it would arrive when it arrives.

I am curious as to how he envisions his reboot of his stable of characters.

Didn't Image already reboot his characters?

Hmmm... Looks like Rob had some not so nice things to say about Valiant on Twitter. Jerk-store.

Lord what is he saying now