Armor Hunters #1 Discussion

[jmatt]

Did anyone else think that the line about treating each of the armors as if it's the last might be a little change of plan on Valiant's part, to instead keep the possibility of other armors open, if originally the plan was for Shanhara to be the last?

Well, we don't know that that was the original plan. I rather liked those lines in the book; it imparted a sense of weariness and dedication of purpose simultaneously.

[kjjohanson]

Did anyone else think that the line about treating each of the armors as if it's the last might be a little change of plan on Valiant's part, to instead keep the possibility of other armors open, if originally the plan was for Shanhara to be the last?

Well, we don't know that that was the original plan. I rather liked those lines in the book; it imparted a sense of weariness and dedication of purpose simultaneously.

I'm not saying I didn't like the idea, just that it stood out as being a little bit of hand waving to potentially dismiss the marketing of the book

[jmatt]

Did anyone else think that the line about treating each of the armors as if it's the last might be a little change of plan on Valiant's part, to instead keep the possibility of other armors open, if originally the plan was for Shanhara to be the last?

Well, we don't know that that was the original plan. I rather liked those lines in the book; it imparted a sense of weariness and dedication of purpose simultaneously.

I'm not saying I didn't like the idea, just that it stood out as being a little bit of hand waving to potentially dismiss the marketing of the book

Gotcha.

[grendeljd]

Did anyone else think that the line about treating each of the armors as if it's the last might be a little change of plan on Valiant's part, to instead keep the possibility of other armors open, if originally the plan was for Shanhara to be the last?

Well, we don't know that that was the original plan. I rather liked those lines in the book; it imparted a sense of weariness and dedication of purpose simultaneously.

I'm not saying I didn't like the idea, just that it stood out as being a little bit of hand waving to potentially dismiss the marketing of the book

Gotcha.

It did stand out for me too, as a slight tweak from the marketing lines which seemed more definite. I also liked it regardless of that, though.

Actually, while I need to re-read it again for proper context, the thought has occurred to me that they may have been referring to Shanhara being the last hunt for them, not necessarily the last Armor to hunt for. Because as has now been suggested, many hunters have fallen - they treat each armor as the last one (or rather, as the last hunt), as any of them could die in the process at any time. And there are so few of them left.

[QUARTZ]

Actually, while I need to re-read it again for proper context, the thought has occurred to me that they may have been referring to Shanhara being the last hunt for them, not necessarily the last Armor to hunt for. Because as has now been suggested, many hunters have fallen - they treat each armor as the last one (or rather, as the last hunt), as any of them could die in the process at any time. And there are so few of them left.

I thought it had more to do with the fact that they did not know how many armors have "infected" the universe, so each new armor could be the last they have to deal with. Shanhara may, or may not be, the last X-O armor in the universe. Either way, it is an interesting concept to mull over, whether there will be more X-O armors, will Aric defeat the Armor Hunters and join them for the next hunt? Will Shanhara turn out any different than the other genocidal armors? So many possibilities.

[KXXX]

I think you guys may be reading too much into the lines. Lilt was merely pointing out the need for a thorough job and that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

I'm wondering if the people of Mexico city are actually dead.

I also wish people in the entertainment industry had more balls; I'm not sure where MERO is (off the top of my head), but aside from the convenient 'nearest population center,' why not a US city? We've been so sensitive.

Loved this issue and I'm optimistic that this will be the crossover that Harbinger Wars was supposed to be: one with lasting consequences that shakes the very foundation of the universe.

[kjjohanson]

Maybe someone really dislikes Mexico City?

[iggy101us]

Maybe someone really dislikes Mexico City?

Isn't it enough that Mota is banned? They have to blow up his entire city? Geez.

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[kjjohanson]

Maybe someone really dislikes Mexico City?

Isn't it enough that Mota is banned? They have to blow up his entire city? Geez.

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[jmatt]

I also wish people in the entertainment industry had more balls; I'm not sure where MERO is (off the top of my head), but aside from the convenient 'nearest population center,' why not a US city?

I thought the same thing. The nearest city was Mexico City?

[iggy101us]

I also wish people in the entertainment industry had more balls; I'm not sure where MERO is (off the top of my head), but aside from the convenient 'nearest population center,' why not a US city?

I thought the same thing. The nearest city was Mexico City?

In Invincible, they blew up Las Vegas.

[ilzuccone]

I also wish people in the entertainment industry had more balls; I'm not sure where MERO is (off the top of my head), but aside from the convenient 'nearest population center,' why not a US city?

I thought the same thing. The nearest city was Mexico City?

In Invincible, they blew up Las Vegas.

spoilers!

[first_citizenx]

I also wish people in the entertainment industry had more balls; I'm not sure where MERO is (off the top of my head), but aside from the convenient 'nearest population center,' why not a US city?

I thought the same thing. The nearest city was Mexico City?

They noted the nearest city to their target (Aric), of a certain population size.

Anyway, I really enjoyed the set-up of the first issue! I'm thinking that The Armor Hunters storyline may be to the new Valiant what Unity was to the old Valiant.

[grendeljd]

Actually, while I need to re-read it again for proper context, the thought has occurred to me that they may have been referring to Shanhara being the last hunt for them, not necessarily the last Armor to hunt for. Because as has now been suggested, many hunters have fallen - they treat each armor as the last one (or rather, as the last hunt), as any of them could die in the process at any time. And there are so few of them left.

I thought it had more to do with the fact that they did not know how many armors have "infected" the universe, so each new armor could be the last they have to deal with. Shanhara may, or may not be, the last X-O armor in the universe. Either way, it is an interesting concept to mull over, whether there will be more X-O armors, will Aric defeat the Armor Hunters and join them for the next hunt? Will Shanhara turn out any different than the other genocidal armors? So many possibilities.

I'm still very curious about the implications of the moment after Aric's first fight with Malgam - when Shanhara absorbed a little piece of Malgams armor. Could it be that all the other armors are infected with some kind of techno-virus, causing them to go out of control as they have been? Was Shanhara a pure armor prior to that moment? Was there something special about it that distinguishes it from all the others? (I'm thinking specifically about the fact that it seems to deliberately seek out particularly 'noble' personality types like Aric)

If it got 'infected' by that piece of Malgam, here's hoping Shanhara will be able to find a way to cure itself & possibly any other armors remaining, thereby giving the Armor Hunters a reason to stop hunting and start saving other XO's...

[BugsySig]

Actually, while I need to re-read it again for proper context, the thought has occurred to me that they may have been referring to Shanhara being the last hunt for them, not necessarily the last Armor to hunt for. Because as has now been suggested, many hunters have fallen - they treat each armor as the last one (or rather, as the last hunt), as any of them could die in the process at any time. And there are so few of them left.

I thought it had more to do with the fact that they did not know how many armors have "infected" the universe, so each new armor could be the last they have to deal with. Shanhara may, or may not be, the last X-O armor in the universe. Either way, it is an interesting concept to mull over, whether there will be more X-O armors, will Aric defeat the Armor Hunters and join them for the next hunt? Will Shanhara turn out any different than the other genocidal armors? So many possibilities.

I'm still very curious about the implications of the moment after Aric's first fight with Malgam - when Shanhara absorbed a little piece of Malgams armor. Could it be that all the other armors are infected with some kind of techno-virus, causing them to go out of control as they have been? Was Shanhara a pure armor prior to that moment? Was there something special about it that distinguishes it from all the others? (I'm thinking specifically about the fact that it seems to deliberately seek out particularly 'noble' personality types like Aric)

If it got 'infected' by that piece of Malgam, here's hoping Shanhara will be able to find a way to cure itself & possibly any other armors remaining, thereby giving the Armor Hunters a reason to stop hunting and start saving other XO's...

Are you talking about when Shanhara fought off Malgam while Aric was unconscious? I didn't think it absorbed anything, but it's an interesting theory none the less.

[Sven the Returned]

I also wish people in the entertainment industry had more balls; I'm not sure where MERO is (off the top of my head), but aside from the convenient 'nearest population center,' why not a US city?

I thought the same thing. The nearest city was Mexico City?

Whatever. I am happy about Mexico City, i don't recall any space monsters/supervillains doing anything ever there.

[grendeljd]

Actually, while I need to re-read it again for proper context, the thought has occurred to me that they may have been referring to Shanhara being the last hunt for them, not necessarily the last Armor to hunt for. Because as has now been suggested, many hunters have fallen - they treat each armor as the last one (or rather, as the last hunt), as any of them could die in the process at any time. And there are so few of them left.

I thought it had more to do with the fact that they did not know how many armors have "infected" the universe, so each new armor could be the last they have to deal with. Shanhara may, or may not be, the last X-O armor in the universe. Either way, it is an interesting concept to mull over, whether there will be more X-O armors, will Aric defeat the Armor Hunters and join them for the next hunt? Will Shanhara turn out any different than the other genocidal armors? So many possibilities.

I'm still very curious about the implications of the moment after Aric's first fight with Malgam - when Shanhara absorbed a little piece of Malgams armor. Could it be that all the other armors are infected with some kind of techno-virus, causing them to go out of control as they have been? Was Shanhara a pure armor prior to that moment? Was there something special about it that distinguishes it from all the others? (I'm thinking specifically about the fact that it seems to deliberately seek out particularly 'noble' personality types like Aric)

If it got 'infected' by that piece of Malgam, here's hoping Shanhara will be able to find a way to cure itself & possibly any other armors remaining, thereby giving the Armor Hunters a reason to stop hunting and start saving other XO's...

Are you talking about when Shanhara fought off Malgam while Aric was unconscious? I didn't think it absorbed anything, but it's an interesting theory none the less.

I can't recall exactly when it happened - probably as you said, when Aric was out, but there was a sequence of panels where a little glob of Malgams armour came off and was absorbed by Shanhara. I'll have to re-read #24 to find it again, but I'm pretty sure that's what I was seeing.

[jmatt]

I can't recall exactly when it happened - probably as you said, when Aric was out, but there was a sequence of panels where a little glob of Malgams armour came off and was absorbed by Shanhara. I'll have to re-read #24 to find it again, but I'm pretty sure that's what I was seeing.

Yeah, I don't remember that either. If so, that's a pretty important story element.

[Heath]

I finally got to read it and, while I liked it... It just didn't seem like VALIANT to me. The character design, the artistic style, pretty much everything about it feels more like DC to me (not DC-lite, just regular DC). I enjoyed the book, but it just didn't have that Valiant feel to me.

[ilzuccone]

I finally got to read it and, while I liked it... It just didn't seem like VALIANT to me. The character design, the artistic style, pretty much everything about it feels more like DC to me (not DC-lite, just regular DC). I enjoyed the book, but it just didn't have that Valiant feel to me.

I wasn't completely sold on the character designs either. Like them a bit more now tho.

[lorddunlow]

I loved it! I agree with some others about the evil armors - I think they're like mogwai/gremlins - Shanhara is Gizmo and the other armors are its corrupt spawn.

[grendeljd]

I can't recall exactly when it happened - probably as you said, when Aric was out, but there was a sequence of panels where a little glob of Malgams armour came off and was absorbed by Shanhara. I'll have to re-read #24 to find it again, but I'm pretty sure that's what I was seeing.

Yeah, I don't remember that either. If so, that's a pretty important story element.

I think I was wrong about that - I looked through #24 again, found the bit with Aric knocked out & it does look more like Shanhara was fighting off Malgam by spreading out tendrils, which then retracted. I misinterpreted what I was seeing.

[hawkeyeps]

One thing I found very interesting was when Helix was investigating the Commando armours and she said "False targets not from Earth, culture of origination: Vine. Culture not known. Designating for future investigation."

The Armour Hunters have no idea about the Vine which is odd since they are an ancient far spread race who's culture was based on the Armour.

The Vine already had the Armour for a long time before they picked up Aric in 400 AD, why didn't the Armour destroy the Vine and how could they have it for so long without the Hunters knowing about it? It's not like they kept to themselves, part of their culture was to spread their seed across the universe albeit in secret.

This may have something to do with what I've wondered since the beginning- Why did the Vine have their most sacred relic on a space cruiser as opposed to keeping it on Loam? Did the Vine know about the Hunters?

[Chiclo]

One thing I found very interesting was when Helix was investigating the Commando armours and she said "False targets not from Earth, culture of origination: Vine. Culture not known. Designating for future investigation."

The Armour Hunters have no idea about the Vine which is odd since they are an ancient far spread race who's culture was based on the Armour.

The Vine already had the Armour for a long time before they picked up Aric in 400 AD, why didn't the Armour destroy the Vine and how could they have it for so long without the Hunters knowing about it? It's not like they kept to themselves, part of their culture was to spread their seed across the universe albeit in secret.

This may have something to do with what I've wondered since the beginning- Why did the Vine have their most sacred relic on a space cruiser as opposed to keeping it on Loam? Did the Vine know about the Hunters?

The armour was inactive with a few exceptions lasting less than a minute each time. Maybe it was in some sort of stasis or hibernation that kept it from being detected?

[Captain Craig]

I read it by my pool and it reminded me of summers past, reading generation one Valiant comics in my treehouse as a kid.

Say what---WHAT?? The pool? I don't like a covered, capped or topped beverage too near my books while reading let alone an entire body of water. Where uncontrolled splashes, sweaty beverage cups or a pop up rain cloud could appear.

I feel like I've just been PUNK'D!!!