Discuss Hard To Find Or Currently Hot Comics Of Any Era

[Trenton Sy]

I think the Big Hero 6 team that the movie is based on is this one :

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Not the Sunfire / Alpha Flight version

[AnthonyF]

This may have been discussed before, but when it comes to a book being made into a show (like Preacher) which is already heating up - do you wait to sell, hoping that it hits TWD level?
Or (depending on what your costs on the book were) sell now?

I'm guessing you would sell now, on a sure thing. But, would you wait?

[Elveen]

If Preacher becomes TWD..... then wait.

But that is a big "if".

[GGSAE]

If Preacher becomes TWD..... then wait.

But that is a big "if".

You didn't answer the question Elveen, how do you decide to wait after the show's been a huge hit?

There's probably potential for a steady trend in Preacher, but I think bulk of the move is already in. Preacher #1 will never hit TWD #1 in prices, 7500 print run vs several hundred thousand! Think about it...

[400yrs]

If Preacher becomes TWD..... then wait.

But that is a big "if".

You didn't answer the question Elveen, how do you decide to wait after the show's been a huge hit?

There's probably potential for a steady trend in Preacher, but I think bulk of the move is already in. Preacher #1 will never hit TWD #1 in prices, 7500 print run vs several hundred thousand! Think about it...

Plus preacher is over so there's nothing new available.

[kjjohanson]

If Preacher becomes TWD..... then wait.

But that is a big "if".

You didn't answer the question Elveen, how do you decide to wait after the show's been a huge hit?

There's probably potential for a steady trend in Preacher, but I think bulk of the move is already in. Preacher #1 will never hit TWD #1 in prices, 7500 print run vs several hundred thousand! Think about it...

Do we know that the print run for Preacher #1 is that high? Certainly it's higher than TWD #1, but most Vertigo books didn't reach the numbers of more mainstream books in the '90s. I've seen one person comment in a forum that the print run was closer to 28K.

[mkb28]

I sold my Manifest Destiny #1 CGC 9.8 for $105.00 with Free Shipping last week on eBay. Not the $150.00+ I was hoping for, but it was enough to help me pay for the CGC submission costs for my five books.

Mkb28

[caxiotis]

I sold my Manifest Destiny #1 CGC 9.8 for $105.00 with Free Shipping last week on eBay. Not the $150.00+ I was hoping for, but it was enough to help me pay for the CGC submission costs for my five books.

Mkb28

Awesome!

[slym2none]

MD seems to be diving. I got $285 for my #1 and #1 Ottley variant a few weeks ago.

Guess I should have gotten all my stuff slabbed instead of breaking it up. Oh well.



-slym

[GGSAE]

MD seems to be diving. I got $285 for my #1 and #1 Ottley variant a few weeks ago.

Guess I should have gotten all my stuff slabbed instead of breaking it up. Oh well.



-slym

Like a lot of 'flavor of the month' books it temporarily peaked, I see some completed sales for it in the $20-range. It could gradually increase in time, but with only an increased steady flow of readers. Unless some of these image books are very,very sought after (ala Saga), or extremely low-printed (PP,CHEW), any new book will have a difficult time staying above $50, and most likely not hit $100 raw.

But it looks like you sold at the top, so you should be happy.

[GGSAE]

If Preacher becomes TWD..... then wait.

But that is a big "if".

You didn't answer the question Elveen, how do you decide to wait after the show's been a huge hit?

There's probably potential for a steady trend in Preacher, but I think bulk of the move is already in. Preacher #1 will never hit TWD #1 in prices, 7500 print run vs several hundred thousand! Think about it...

Do we know that the print run for Preacher #1 is that high? Certainly it's higher than TWD #1, but most Vertigo books didn't reach the numbers of more mainstream books in the '90s. I've seen one person comment in a forum that the print run was closer to 28K.

Can you get a source on that 28k? I would be absolutely stunned to see that....I see still (as of a few weeks ago) many dollar finds of this book on the CGC boards. In fact, one guy alone found 5 copies sitting in a box together! You just don't see 5 copies of a #1 issues together, unless there's a fair amount of them out there.

[GGSAE]

Just to offer some constructive advice, so everyone doesn't think I'm only taking the negative side. Recently I've focused putting my efforts toward key and semi-key issues (of established series). I think this is a better approach than chasing the latest hot thing, which to me is like gambling on growth stocks with inconsistent (or none at all) earnings. Case in point, today at a show I grabbed a number of 'notable' issues from the copper age (pictured in the bragging rights thread) for a buck a piece. Many of these are nothing spectacular, but they have potential, and they're out there if you look!

For modern comics I'm looking at some of the best written stories, with a long-history of storyline. I think grabbing issues like #300 Hellblazer, #300 Cerebus, American Vampire #1, which are all cheap to be bad, offers solid risk/reward for investing in comics that may catch fire some day down the road. Worse case, you're not out a lot of money.

[kjjohanson]

Just to offer some constructive advice, so everyone doesn't think I'm only taking the negative side. Recently I've focused putting my efforts toward key and semi-key issues (of established series). I think this is a better approach than chasing the latest hot thing, which to me is like gambling on growth stocks with inconsistent (or none at all) earnings. Case in point, today at a show I grabbed a number of 'notable' issues from the copper age (pictured in the bragging rights thread) for a buck a piece. Many of these are nothing spectacular, but they have potential, and they're out there if you look!

For modern comics I'm looking at some of the best written stories, with a long-history of storyline. I think grabbing issues like #300 Hellblazer, #300 Cerebus, American Vampire #1, which are all cheap to be bad, offers solid risk/reward for investing in comics that may catch fire some day down the road. Worse case, you're not out a lot of money.

The problem with Hellblazer and Cerebus 300 is that unlike other final issues of series, those were planned cancellations rather that cancellations due to low sales (the latter of which would tend to mean that there are less copies out there to be had, making supply lower and thus value higher when those series return in some form and people look for the old books)

[kjjohanson]

If Preacher becomes TWD..... then wait.

But that is a big "if".

You didn't answer the question Elveen, how do you decide to wait after the show's been a huge hit?

There's probably potential for a steady trend in Preacher, but I think bulk of the move is already in. Preacher #1 will never hit TWD #1 in prices, 7500 print run vs several hundred thousand! Think about it...

Do we know that the print run for Preacher #1 is that high? Certainly it's higher than TWD #1, but most Vertigo books didn't reach the numbers of more mainstream books in the '90s. I've seen one person comment in a forum that the print run was closer to 28K.

Can you get a source on that 28k? I would be absolutely stunned to see that....I see still (as of a few weeks ago) many dollar finds of this book on the CGC boards. In fact, one guy alone found 5 copies sitting in a box together! You just don't see 5 copies of a #1 issues together, unless there's a fair amount of them out there.

The 28K is not my number. I just saw someone post that number without a source.

[GGSAE]

Just to offer some constructive advice, so everyone doesn't think I'm only taking the negative side. Recently I've focused putting my efforts toward key and semi-key issues (of established series). I think this is a better approach than chasing the latest hot thing, which to me is like gambling on growth stocks with inconsistent (or none at all) earnings. Case in point, today at a show I grabbed a number of 'notable' issues from the copper age (pictured in the bragging rights thread) for a buck a piece. Many of these are nothing spectacular, but they have potential, and they're out there if you look!

For modern comics I'm looking at some of the best written stories, with a long-history of storyline. I think grabbing issues like #300 Hellblazer, #300 Cerebus, American Vampire #1, which are all cheap to be bad, offers solid risk/reward for investing in comics that may catch fire some day down the road. Worse case, you're not out a lot of money.

The problem with Hellblazer and Cerebus 300 is that unlike other final issues of series, those were planned cancellations rather that cancellations due to low sales (the latter of which would tend to mean that there are less copies out there to be had, making supply lower and thus value higher when those series return in some form and people look for the old books)

The print runs on both are fairly low...and I think a planned cancellation is better as a finale than books left untied. For me I'd rather pay $5 bucks for either of those 300 books than the last issues of VH1 which go for 3-5 times that amount. If you have a better use of $5 to invest in comics, I'm all ears.

[kjjohanson]

Just to offer some constructive advice, so everyone doesn't think I'm only taking the negative side. Recently I've focused putting my efforts toward key and semi-key issues (of established series). I think this is a better approach than chasing the latest hot thing, which to me is like gambling on growth stocks with inconsistent (or none at all) earnings. Case in point, today at a show I grabbed a number of 'notable' issues from the copper age (pictured in the bragging rights thread) for a buck a piece. Many of these are nothing spectacular, but they have potential, and they're out there if you look!

For modern comics I'm looking at some of the best written stories, with a long-history of storyline. I think grabbing issues like #300 Hellblazer, #300 Cerebus, American Vampire #1, which are all cheap to be bad, offers solid risk/reward for investing in comics that may catch fire some day down the road. Worse case, you're not out a lot of money.

The problem with Hellblazer and Cerebus 300 is that unlike other final issues of series, those were planned cancellations rather that cancellations due to low sales (the latter of which would tend to mean that there are less copies out there to be had, making supply lower and thus value higher when those series return in some form and people look for the old books)

The print runs on both are fairly low...and I think a planned cancellation is better as a finale than books left untied. For me I'd rather pay $5 bucks for either of those 300 books than the last issues of VH1 which go for 3-5 times that amount. If you have a better use of $5 to invest in comics, I'm all ears.

Re-reading your earlier comment I see that you didn't mention them specifically because they're last issues. I haven't read them, but if they're key books for other reasons then that makes a difference.

[GGSAE]

Just to offer some constructive advice, so everyone doesn't think I'm only taking the negative side. Recently I've focused putting my efforts toward key and semi-key issues (of established series). I think this is a better approach than chasing the latest hot thing, which to me is like gambling on growth stocks with inconsistent (or none at all) earnings. Case in point, today at a show I grabbed a number of 'notable' issues from the copper age (pictured in the bragging rights thread) for a buck a piece. Many of these are nothing spectacular, but they have potential, and they're out there if you look!

For modern comics I'm looking at some of the best written stories, with a long-history of storyline. I think grabbing issues like #300 Hellblazer, #300 Cerebus, American Vampire #1, which are all cheap to be bad, offers solid risk/reward for investing in comics that may catch fire some day down the road. Worse case, you're not out a lot of money.

The problem with Hellblazer and Cerebus 300 is that unlike other final issues of series, those were planned cancellations rather that cancellations due to low sales (the latter of which would tend to mean that there are less copies out there to be had, making supply lower and thus value higher when those series return in some form and people look for the old books)

The print runs on both are fairly low...and I think a planned cancellation is better as a finale than books left untied. For me I'd rather pay $5 bucks for either of those 300 books than the last issues of VH1 which go for 3-5 times that amount. If you have a better use of $5 to invest in comics, I'm all ears.

Re-reading your earlier comment I see that you didn't mention them specifically because they're last issues. I haven't read them, but if they're key books for other reasons then that makes a difference.

I think the final issue of two iconic series (one being the longest running Vertigo title of all time), should hold some merit. If the last issue of X-O Manowar and Turok can sell anywhere from $10-40 (There was a time people would pay 40$ and up just for Turok), and those titles were absolute crap put out by Acclaim, then a well-delivered finale should be at a minimum comparable to that.

[kjjohanson]

Just to offer some constructive advice, so everyone doesn't think I'm only taking the negative side. Recently I've focused putting my efforts toward key and semi-key issues (of established series). I think this is a better approach than chasing the latest hot thing, which to me is like gambling on growth stocks with inconsistent (or none at all) earnings. Case in point, today at a show I grabbed a number of 'notable' issues from the copper age (pictured in the bragging rights thread) for a buck a piece. Many of these are nothing spectacular, but they have potential, and they're out there if you look!

For modern comics I'm looking at some of the best written stories, with a long-history of storyline. I think grabbing issues like #300 Hellblazer, #300 Cerebus, American Vampire #1, which are all cheap to be bad, offers solid risk/reward for investing in comics that may catch fire some day down the road. Worse case, you're not out a lot of money.

The problem with Hellblazer and Cerebus 300 is that unlike other final issues of series, those were planned cancellations rather that cancellations due to low sales (the latter of which would tend to mean that there are less copies out there to be had, making supply lower and thus value higher when those series return in some form and people look for the old books)

The print runs on both are fairly low...and I think a planned cancellation is better as a finale than books left untied. For me I'd rather pay $5 bucks for either of those 300 books than the last issues of VH1 which go for 3-5 times that amount. If you have a better use of $5 to invest in comics, I'm all ears.

Re-reading your earlier comment I see that you didn't mention them specifically because they're last issues. I haven't read them, but if they're key books for other reasons then that makes a difference.

I think the final issue of two iconic series (one being the longest running Vertigo title of all time), should hold some merit. If the last issue of X-O Manowar and Turok can sell anywhere from $10-40 (There was a time people would pay 40$ and up just for Turok), and those titles were absolute crap put out by Acclaim, then a well-delivered finale should be at a minimum comparable to that.

It's always going to come down to supply and demand.

[GGSAE]

Just to offer some constructive advice, so everyone doesn't think I'm only taking the negative side. Recently I've focused putting my efforts toward key and semi-key issues (of established series). I think this is a better approach than chasing the latest hot thing, which to me is like gambling on growth stocks with inconsistent (or none at all) earnings. Case in point, today at a show I grabbed a number of 'notable' issues from the copper age (pictured in the bragging rights thread) for a buck a piece. Many of these are nothing spectacular, but they have potential, and they're out there if you look!

For modern comics I'm looking at some of the best written stories, with a long-history of storyline. I think grabbing issues like #300 Hellblazer, #300 Cerebus, American Vampire #1, which are all cheap to be bad, offers solid risk/reward for investing in comics that may catch fire some day down the road. Worse case, you're not out a lot of money.

The problem with Hellblazer and Cerebus 300 is that unlike other final issues of series, those were planned cancellations rather that cancellations due to low sales (the latter of which would tend to mean that there are less copies out there to be had, making supply lower and thus value higher when those series return in some form and people look for the old books)

The print runs on both are fairly low...and I think a planned cancellation is better as a finale than books left untied. For me I'd rather pay $5 bucks for either of those 300 books than the last issues of VH1 which go for 3-5 times that amount. If you have a better use of $5 to invest in comics, I'm all ears.

Re-reading your earlier comment I see that you didn't mention them specifically because they're last issues. I haven't read them, but if they're key books for other reasons then that makes a difference.

I think the final issue of two iconic series (one being the longest running Vertigo title of all time), should hold some merit. If the last issue of X-O Manowar and Turok can sell anywhere from $10-40 (There was a time people would pay 40$ and up just for Turok), and those titles were absolute crap put out by Acclaim, then a well-delivered finale should be at a minimum comparable to that.

It's always going to come down to supply and demand.

Ya well it's been argued dozens of times in the past how much of an impact this board had on VH1 prices, especially the less common books. You could say it's manufactured demand to an extent...

[kjjohanson]

The problem with Hellblazer and Cerebus 300 is that unlike other final issues of series, those were planned cancellations rather that cancellations due to low sales (the latter of which would tend to mean that there are less copies out there to be had, making supply lower and thus value higher when those series return in some form and people look for the old books)

The print runs on both are fairly low...and I think a planned cancellation is better as a finale than books left untied. For me I'd rather pay $5 bucks for either of those 300 books than the last issues of VH1 which go for 3-5 times that amount. If you have a better use of $5 to invest in comics, I'm all ears.

Re-reading your earlier comment I see that you didn't mention them specifically because they're last issues. I haven't read them, but if they're key books for other reasons then that makes a difference.

I think the final issue of two iconic series (one being the longest running Vertigo title of all time), should hold some merit. If the last issue of X-O Manowar and Turok can sell anywhere from $10-40 (There was a time people would pay 40$ and up just for Turok), and those titles were absolute crap put out by Acclaim, then a well-delivered finale should be at a minimum comparable to that.

It's always going to come down to supply and demand.

Ya well it's been argued dozens of times in the past how much of an impact this board had on VH1 prices, especially the less common books. You could say it's manufactured demand to an extent...

Not exactly sure what that's supposed to mean. This site certainly kept interest in Valiant at a higher level than if there was no site. Not sure if I would call that manufacturing demand.

[GGSAE]

The print runs on both are fairly low...and I think a planned cancellation is better as a finale than books left untied. For me I'd rather pay $5 bucks for either of those 300 books than the last issues of VH1 which go for 3-5 times that amount. If you have a better use of $5 to invest in comics, I'm all ears.

Re-reading your earlier comment I see that you didn't mention them specifically because they're last issues. I haven't read them, but if they're key books for other reasons then that makes a difference.

I think the final issue of two iconic series (one being the longest running Vertigo title of all time), should hold some merit. If the last issue of X-O Manowar and Turok can sell anywhere from $10-40 (There was a time people would pay 40$ and up just for Turok), and those titles were absolute crap put out by Acclaim, then a well-delivered finale should be at a minimum comparable to that.

It's always going to come down to supply and demand.

Ya well it's been argued dozens of times in the past how much of an impact this board had on VH1 prices, especially the less common books. You could say it's manufactured demand to an extent...

Not exactly sure what that's supposed to mean. This site certainly kept interest in Valiant at a higher level than if there was no site. Not sure if I would call that manufacturing demand.

You're telling me an Acclaim price variant would sell for $200 if this board didn't exist? C'mon!

[peterm12772]

If Preacher becomes TWD..... then wait.

But that is a big "if".

You didn't answer the question Elveen, how do you decide to wait after the show's been a huge hit?

There's probably potential for a steady trend in Preacher, but I think bulk of the move is already in. Preacher #1 will never hit TWD #1 in prices, 7500 print run vs several hundred thousand! Think about it...

Do we know that the print run for Preacher #1 is that high? Certainly it's higher than TWD #1, but most Vertigo books didn't reach the numbers of more mainstream books in the '90s. I've seen one person comment in a forum that the print run was closer to 28K.

Can you get a source on that 28k? I would be absolutely stunned to see that....I see still (as of a few weeks ago) many dollar finds of this book on the CGC boards. In fact, one guy alone found 5 copies sitting in a box together! You just don't see 5 copies of a #1 issues together, unless there's a fair amount of them out there.

The 28K is not my number. I just saw someone post that number without a source.

I think its closer to around 30-35k. I looked on a site and its estimated closer to this range.

[GGSAE]

If Preacher becomes TWD..... then wait.

But that is a big "if".

You didn't answer the question Elveen, how do you decide to wait after the show's been a huge hit?

There's probably potential for a steady trend in Preacher, but I think bulk of the move is already in. Preacher #1 will never hit TWD #1 in prices, 7500 print run vs several hundred thousand! Think about it...

Do we know that the print run for Preacher #1 is that high? Certainly it's higher than TWD #1, but most Vertigo books didn't reach the numbers of more mainstream books in the '90s. I've seen one person comment in a forum that the print run was closer to 28K.

Can you get a source on that 28k? I would be absolutely stunned to see that....I see still (as of a few weeks ago) many dollar finds of this book on the CGC boards. In fact, one guy alone found 5 copies sitting in a box together! You just don't see 5 copies of a #1 issues together, unless there's a fair amount of them out there.

The 28K is not my number. I just saw someone post that number without a source.

I think its closer to around 30-35k. I looked on a site and its estimated closer to this range.

Can I get a source on this? That number still seems really low (remember this was in the peak of the copper age, a few years before the bubble, so print runs for most publishers was very high), it could be right, but there seems to be quite a lot of these books out there.

[StarBrand]

You didn't answer the question Elveen, how do you decide to wait after the show's been a huge hit?

There's probably potential for a steady trend in Preacher, but I think bulk of the move is already in. Preacher #1 will never hit TWD #1 in prices, 7500 print run vs several hundred thousand! Think about it...

Do we know that the print run for Preacher #1 is that high? Certainly it's higher than TWD #1, but most Vertigo books didn't reach the numbers of more mainstream books in the '90s. I've seen one person comment in a forum that the print run was closer to 28K.

Can you get a source on that 28k? I would be absolutely stunned to see that....I see still (as of a few weeks ago) many dollar finds of this book on the CGC boards. In fact, one guy alone found 5 copies sitting in a box together! You just don't see 5 copies of a #1 issues together, unless there's a fair amount of them out there.

The 28K is not my number. I just saw someone post that number without a source.

I think its closer to around 30-35k. I looked on a site and its estimated closer to this range.

Can I get a source on this? That number still seems really low (remember this was in the peak of the copper age, a few years before the bubble, so print runs for most publishers was very high), it could be right, but there seems to be quite a lot of these books out there.

Preacher 1 was dated 1995, after the crash.

[GGSAE]

Do we know that the print run for Preacher #1 is that high? Certainly it's higher than TWD #1, but most Vertigo books didn't reach the numbers of more mainstream books in the '90s. I've seen one person comment in a forum that the print run was closer to 28K.

Can you get a source on that 28k? I would be absolutely stunned to see that....I see still (as of a few weeks ago) many dollar finds of this book on the CGC boards. In fact, one guy alone found 5 copies sitting in a box together! You just don't see 5 copies of a #1 issues together, unless there's a fair amount of them out there.

The 28K is not my number. I just saw someone post that number without a source.

I think its closer to around 30-35k. I looked on a site and its estimated closer to this range.

Can I get a source on this? That number still seems really low (remember this was in the peak of the copper age, a few years before the bubble, so print runs for most publishers was very high), it could be right, but there seems to be quite a lot of these books out there.

Preacher 1 was dated 1995, after the crash.

Sorry I was thinking of Sandman....anyways, we still haven't seen a source for print run.